In article , Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial
saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons
reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour
change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is,
there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in
the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.
Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

It's not setting the clocks back - it's setting them correctly to natural
time.

It was bad enought, as a student, being Christmas Postie with the clocks as
they are now. Sunrise around 8.30am in Edinburgh and there's a lot further
north to go.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:56:20 -0000, charles wrote:

In article , Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial
saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons
reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour
change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is,
there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in
the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.
Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

It's not setting the clocks back - it's setting them correctly to natural
time.

Our concept of time during a day is not natural. It's invented. There is no "correct" time.

It was bad enought, as a student, being Christmas Postie with the clocks as
they are now. Sunrise around 8.30am in Edinburgh and there's a lot further
north to go.

In winter it can get dark about 4 or 5 pm. The WHOLE evening is dark. Nevermind an hour in the morning, think of the whole evening!

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