On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

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In article , Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial
saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons
reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour
change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is,
there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in
the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.
Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

It's not setting the clocks back - it's setting them correctly to natural
time.

It was bad enought, as a student, being Christmas Postie with the clocks as
they are now. Sunrise around 8.30am in Edinburgh and there's a lot further
north to go.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:56:20 -0000, charles wrote:

In article , Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial
saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons
reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour
change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is,
there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in
the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.
Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

It's not setting the clocks back - it's setting them correctly to natural
time.

Our concept of time during a day is not natural. It's invented. There is no "correct" time.

It was bad enought, as a student, being Christmas Postie with the clocks as
they are now. Sunrise around 8.30am in Edinburgh and there's a lot further
north to go.

In winter it can get dark about 4 or 5 pm. The WHOLE evening is dark. Nevermind an hour in the morning, think of the whole evening!

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In message , Mr Macaw writes
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then
we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

We're further north and also further west. Edinburgh is further west
than Bristol. The combination makes quite a difference to sunrise.

Brian
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:11:45 -0000, Brian Howie wrote:

In message , Mr Macaw writes
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then
we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

We're further north and also further west. Edinburgh is further west
than Bristol. The combination makes quite a difference to sunrise.

It makes it WORSE for us in the evenings. We end up with it getting dark EARLIER than the English. Therefore we should wants the clocks further FORWARDS in winter! I don't care if it's dark for an hour or so when all people are doing is either lying in or driving to work. But most people are at home in the evenings and are stuck in artificially created darkness, it's absurd! Think of the waking hours of most people, why have we put the light part of those hours all at one end?

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On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter
then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

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In article ,
F news@nowhere wrote:
Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

Do their cows tell the time, then?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
F news@nowhere wrote:
Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

Do their cows tell the time, then?

They know when to go to sleep - at pasture bedtime



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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter
then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

That's illogical. Farmers work whenever it's light. The number on the clock is irrelevant.

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On 21/12/2015 19:15, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter
then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

That's illogical. Farmers work whenever it's light. The number on the
clock is irrelevant.

Have a look at 'Debates on reform' at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter
then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

Since when did Scots farmers outnumber everyone else in the UK?

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On 21/12/2015 19:16, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter
then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

Since when did Scots farmers outnumber everyone else in the UK?

They don't but, like a good number of Scots, they tend to exercise their
vocal chords quite vigorously.

Devolution, referendum anybody?

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Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some
reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

Since when did Scots farmers outnumber everyone else in the UK?

**** off PHucker ******.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

Since when has our government done anything sensible? The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:59:37 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

Since when has our government done anything sensible?

That was parliament, not the government.

Feel free to ask for an explanation if you don't understand the
difference.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:32:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:59:37 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

Since when has our government done anything sensible?

That was parliament, not the government.

Feel free to ask for an explanation if you don't understand the
difference.

Er.... I read this: http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/r...nt-government/
And it's rather unclear. We voted the Tories in, who then decide what laws to change. So who chooses who is in "parliament"? Isn't parliament that room they have on TV with the party leaders at the front wailing at each other, and full of MPs we voted in, hence it's also the "government". I know there's a thing called the "house of lords" which is completely undemocratic, but I'm not sure who has control over what.

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escribió:

Feel free to ask for an explanation if you don't understand the
difference.

Thank **** my killfile picked up PHucker's latest morph.

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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

Since when has our government done anything sensible?

When they pulled the plug on your benefits.

The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to
take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't.

Corse that isn't true of fools like Farage eh ?

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:20:27 -0000, Phucker ****er wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

Since when has our government done anything sensible?

When they pulled the plug on your benefits.

No they didn't.

The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to
take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't.

Corse that isn't true of fools like Farage eh ?

We don't know, because our ****ed up voting system the Conservatives have fiddled means that they got THREE TIMES more votes than the SNP, yet a FIFTIETH of the seats.

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"Phucker ****er" wrote in message ...

**** off Rod

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

Why let kids ruin it for the rest of us? Especially as they're taken to school by car nowadays anyway.

Oh and they've invented streetlamps by the way.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

Yes, and they could have light when they went out to play, which is just, if not more, likely to cause them to get run over.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

But but but, we have those pesky 20mph limits, it's impossible to kill people on the road....

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In article ,
Phil L wrote:
And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it
would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30,
this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light,
all the kids are back home by then

When I were a kid in the NE of Scotland, we went to school in the dark as
well as coming home after dark for some of the winter.

But had daylight until after 11pm in mid summer.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:04:20 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Phil L wrote:
And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it
would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30,
this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light,
all the kids are back home by then

When I were a kid in the NE of Scotland, we went to school in the dark as
well as coming home after dark for some of the winter.

But had daylight until after 11pm in mid summer.

It seems to be assumed that everybody's scared of the dark nowadays. We don't get dark anymore, because people have 1 billion watt headlamps on their cars, and the police don't seem to do a thing. Why don't they pull people over every time they're dazzled by one?

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all
year.

The 1966 thing is what we need.

No we fing don't. That trial was awful from the POV of a six year
old, walking to school in the dark wearing the issued Hi-viz waist
coat.

Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light.
Winter
has not enough light, particularly in the evening.

If people want to have a BBQ on the patio in late December (and it
has been warm enough for that this year) fit the working hours to the
available daylight. The wage slave 9-5 is an hour offset from (GMT)
daylight, 8-4 would be a better fit and for those that want a BBQ do
7-3.

So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

The clocks aren't backwards in winter, they are closer to siderial
time, ie noon is when the sun is highest in the sky.

Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we
don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apart from the spurious "light evenings" argument trading with europe
is put forward as a reason for sticking with GMT+1 all year. Except
of course most of the EU moves to GMT+2 in the summer so that blows
that argument out of the water.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it
would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this
is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all
the kids are back home by then

See above as a six year old in the trial period I hated it and that
was in the Midlands. Up here in the North of England or further north
I dread to think what it was like.

http://www.howhill.com/weather/webcam_24.php

Camera switches to B&W "night" mode about the light level that if you
are outside working by natural light you should have packed up and
finished for day a little while earlier.

That page refreshes each hour, last night 22 Dec was cloudy and dark
(there is a small IR illuminator for the FG). Night before clearish
and lit from an approximately 3/4 full moon.

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In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all
year.

The 1966 thing is what we need.

No we fing don't. That trial was awful from the POV of a six year
old, walking to school in the dark wearing the issued Hi-viz waist
coat.

The obvious snag is the time of daybreak changes dramatically across the
country. So what is fine in one part won't be in another.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:55:10 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need.

No we fing don't. That trial was awful from the POV of a six year
old, walking to school in the dark wearing the issued Hi-viz waist
coat.

The obvious snag is the time of daybreak changes dramatically across the
country. So what is fine in one part won't be in another.

Roughly 40 mins most westerly (Soay) to most easterly (Lowestoft)
points of the UK but with a 8:1 bias to early sunrise. So Soay has
sunrise approx 32 mins before Greenwich. Yes, I know it's not that
simple as the earth is a tilted spheroid so the terminator doesn't
follow the lines of longitude very well. I think that that affect may
have is to shorten the time difference between Soay and Greenwich in
the Winter.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:55:10 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all
year.

The 1966 thing is what we need.

No we fing don't. That trial was awful from the POV of a six year
old, walking to school in the dark wearing the issued Hi-viz waist
coat.

The obvious snag is the time of daybreak changes dramatically across the
country. So what is fine in one part won't be in another.

Which is why we should centre the lightest part of the day around the middle of our waking hours.

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:30:36 -0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all
year.

The 1966 thing is what we need.

No we fing don't. That trial was awful from the POV of a six year
old, walking to school in the dark

Awww you poor thing, were there monsters behind the trees?

As a kid, I preferred light AFTER school, when I went out to play. Who gives a **** what it is when you're just going somewhere you don't want to be anyway?

wearing the issued Hi-viz waist coat.

Then don't wear it. You must be younger than me, because people hadn't gone crazy on those outlandish things when I were a lad.

The only thing I was "forced" to do was to get off the school bus at the correct stop (the stupid driver was concerned for my safety or something - I was only trying to go to a friend's house). From that day on I cycled to school and he didn't get his 10p fare.

Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light.
Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening.

If people want to have a BBQ on the patio in late December (and it
has been warm enough for that this year) fit the working hours to the
available daylight. The wage slave 9-5 is an hour offset from (GMT)
daylight, 8-4 would be a better fit and for those that want a BBQ do
7-3.

Changing the working hours is more of a pfaff than simply changing the time.

So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

The clocks aren't backwards in winter, they are closer to siderial
time, ie noon is when the sun is highest in the sky.

Why does noon have to be then? In fact it shouldn't be. The highest sun should be in the middle of the period of time the average person is awake. IME, most people get up at 7 or 8 for work, or 9 or 10 on days off, then go to bed at 11 or 12. So midday should be 4pm.

Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we
don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apart from the spurious "light evenings" argument trading with europe

A light evening's argument trading? Is this a Monty Python sketch? :-)

is put forward as a reason for sticking with GMT+1 all year. Except
of course most of the EU moves to GMT+2 in the summer so that blows
that argument out of the water.

Make all of Europe the same, then we'd have the lighter evening too.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses
the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is
giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system
works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are
so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves
wrong :-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.


The sun rises and sets as it wishes, and government regulations change
the amount of light not a single microsecond.

(Which is just another way of saying Phucker is a ****wit.)

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:08:25 -0000, Judith wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses
the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is
giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system
works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are
so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves
wrong :-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

The sun rises and sets as it wishes, and government regulations change
the amount of light not a single microsecond.

The government changes what time of day it's light. Obviously in winter we have lots of dark in the evenings, which is wrong. Clearly it's better to have it dark for an hour early in the morning (all you're doing is driving to work) and have an extra hour of light in the evening when you get home and can enjoy it. If you consider the times of day that most people are awake, it's out of synch with the time that it's light.

(Which is just another way of saying Phucker is a ****wit.)

Thought you killfiled me, liar.

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Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.



???? Do they change the earth rotation

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:56:05 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

???? Do they change the earth rotation

The earth's rotation changes by up to 50 seconds either way per day.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:56:05 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

???? Do they change the earth rotation

No, they come and paint different numbers on all our clocks and watches so the light happens earlier in the day.

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