Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/

It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are
there any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature
extremes, maintenance, fading colour etc?

"nemo" wrote in message ...

Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/

It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are there
any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature extremes,
maintenance, fading colour etc?

It's rather down to personal taste. I reckon it looks ok in an urban
pristine setting, but is far too even for my taste. Rather like the
difference between machine made and hand made bricks - they both work but
look worlds apart.

Longevity must largely be down to the substrate the resin is bonded to, and
when eventually a frequently used bit gets eroded, you can't just rake the
gravel back to cover it up. Ordinary gravel has it's pluses and minuses
though. We have almost an acre of pea shingle - it covers a multitude of
sins, and continues to do so even after I've been over it with tractors and
excavators, just needs the occasional rake over. Our issue is weeds and
protruding membrane. It was laid over a weed barrier by our predecessors and
torn bits work up to the top and get caught. Regular glyphosate spraying
controls the weeds if you remember to do it in time - daughters wedding this
weekend and it's having to be hand weeded as too late for the glyphosate

Andrew

On 21/07/15 08:39, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"nemo" wrote in message ...

Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/


It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are
there any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature
extremes, maintenance, fading colour etc?

It's rather down to personal taste. I reckon it looks ok in an urban
pristine setting, but is far too even for my taste. Rather like the
difference between machine made and hand made bricks - they both work
but look worlds apart.

Longevity must largely be down to the substrate the resin is bonded to,
and when eventually a frequently used bit gets eroded, you can't just
rake the gravel back to cover it up. Ordinary gravel has it's pluses and
minuses though. We have almost an acre of pea shingle - it covers a
multitude of sins, and continues to do so even after I've been over it
with tractors and excavators, just needs the occasional rake over. Our
issue is weeds and protruding membrane. It was laid over a weed barrier
by our predecessors and torn bits work up to the top and get caught.
Regular glyphosate spraying controls the weeds if you remember to do it
in time - daughters wedding this weekend and it's having to be hand
weeded as too late for the glyphosate

Andrew
Having used it and not used it, I am of the firm opinion that weed
control membrane doesn't control weeds at all.

Not in a drive scenario anyway. It may suppress growth when a teaspoon
of decorative shingle is laid over grass or flowerbeds from which plants
have not been removed, for a few months.



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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 8:39:47 AM UTC+1, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"nemo" wrote in message ...

Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/

It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are there
any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature extremes,
maintenance, fading colour etc?

It's rather down to personal taste. I reckon it looks ok in an urban
pristine setting, but is far too even for my taste. Rather like the
difference between machine made and hand made bricks - they both work but
look worlds apart.

Longevity must largely be down to the substrate the resin is bonded to, and
when eventually a frequently used bit gets eroded, you can't just rake the
gravel back to cover it up. Ordinary gravel has it's pluses and minuses
though. We have almost an acre of pea shingle - it covers a multitude of
sins, and continues to do so even after I've been over it with tractors and
excavators, just needs the occasional rake over. Our issue is weeds and
protruding membrane. It was laid over a weed barrier by our predecessors and
torn bits work up to the top and get caught. Regular glyphosate spraying
controls the weeds if you remember to do it in time - daughters wedding this
weekend and it's having to be hand weeded as too late for the glyphosate

Andrew

If you can get your hands on some Premazor 57 and mix it with the Roundup. It acts like the old late lamented Simazine and remains active on the surface after the Roundup does its job.

On 22/07/2015 10:01, fred wrote:
On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 8:39:47 AM UTC+1, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"nemo" wrote in message ...

Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/

It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are there
any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature extremes,
maintenance, fading colour etc?

It's rather down to personal taste. I reckon it looks ok in an urban
pristine setting, but is far too even for my taste. Rather like the
difference between machine made and hand made bricks - they both work but
look worlds apart.

Longevity must largely be down to the substrate the resin is bonded to, and
when eventually a frequently used bit gets eroded, you can't just rake the
gravel back to cover it up. Ordinary gravel has it's pluses and minuses
though. We have almost an acre of pea shingle - it covers a multitude of
sins, and continues to do so even after I've been over it with tractors and
excavators, just needs the occasional rake over. Our issue is weeds and
protruding membrane. It was laid over a weed barrier by our predecessors and
torn bits work up to the top and get caught. Regular glyphosate spraying
controls the weeds if you remember to do it in time - daughters wedding this
weekend and it's having to be hand weeded as too late for the glyphosate

Andrew

If you can get your hands on some Premazor 57 and mix it with the Roundup. It acts like the old late lamented Simazine and remains active on the surface after the Roundup does its job.

You can still get Sodium Chlorate (Amazon) and that seems to give you
several months protection.

In message , Huge
writes
On 2015-07-22, newshound wrote:

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You can still get Sodium Chlorate (Amazon)

Really? I would stock up then, since the sale and use of it is now illegal.


There does seem to be the odd seller sometimes.

eg. this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010FR36EO

ignore the picture and read the description.

and this one probably is it as well. (going by the reviews, the listing
doesn't mention Sodium chlorate)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/WEED-KILLER-POWDER-KILLS-WEEDS/dp/B002NO0P88
--
Chris French

In message , Huge
writes
On 2015-07-23, Chris French wrote:
In message , Huge
writes
On 2015-07-22, newshound wrote:

[31 lines snipped]

You can still get Sodium Chlorate (Amazon)

Really? I would stock up then, since the sale and use of it is now illegal.


There does seem to be the odd seller sometimes.

eg. this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010FR36EO

ignore the picture

Yeah, the can in the picture says "Brushable phenolic paint stripper".

and read the description.

40% solution. It's a bloody expensive way of buying it.

It's a sellers market.


and this one probably is it as well. (going by the reviews, the listing
doesn't mention Sodium chlorate)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/WEED-KILLER-POWDER-KILLS-WEEDS/dp/B002NO0P88

Gawd knows what you get here, since the picture shows isopropyl alcohol,
potassium permanganate, potassium chlorate & citric acid!

That seller is obviusly being rather more coy, but it sounds pretty much
like it is sodium chlorate, not hat I'd be buying it.
--
Chris French

On 20/07/2015 21:38, nemo wrote:
Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/


It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are
there any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature
extremes, maintenance, fading colour etc?

According to one site, "The use of dried aggregates bonded in resin
appeared on the UK market around 25 years ago and was originally
pioneered in the US market.".

Shirley that means there must be people around with experience of its
performance over time? Anyone?

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 9:38:22 PM UTC+1, nemo wrote:
Resin based gravel drives are appearing in our locality and we get
leafletted regularly e.g.
http://www.iresin.co.uk/resin-bonded-and-resin-bound-whats-the-difference/

It looks good but what are the pros and cons of this technology? Are
there any significant problems with grip, durability, temperature
extremes, maintenance, fading colour etc?

yeh