Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

Thanks,
Stephen.

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Good morning,

It isn't morning here.

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded.
What is the best way to "resurface" these?

Much better to replace them with fresh concrete don't properly.

Should I apply some pva or sbr to the existing
steps and then a screed of sand and cement?

No, that won't last very long. You could
tile it if you don't want to replace it.

What ratio of sand to cement would be best for this application?

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Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

Is plain concrete what you really want? If they are perhaps steps to a
front door, tiling them with a solid stone can look very good. And since
it is possibly a small area, you might get enough 'end of range' tiles to
do the job at a good price.

Marble tiles can be one such.

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Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

Thin screed doesn't work in these situations, it simply comes away after
very short usage.

You can either:

A) re-cast new concrete steps
B) tile over the eroded ones, or
C) live with the steps as they are

There are quite a few tiles made for these situations, with grips moulded
into them for extra safety, use a good quality exterior tile adhesive

On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:38:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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wrote:
Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of sand
to cement would be best for this application?

Is plain concrete what you really want? If they are perhaps steps to a
front door, tiling them with a solid stone can look very good. And since
it is possibly a small area, you might get enough 'end of range' tiles
to do the job at a good price.

Marble tiles can be one such.

Depending on the size of the step and the height between steps, presumably
flag stones could also work?

Looking at a (guess) 3' by 3' entry area to some steps which has been re-
screeded with predictable results at least once.

Cheers

Dave R

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On 19/07/15 13:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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wrote:
Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

Is plain concrete what you really want? If they are perhaps steps to a
front door, tiling them with a solid stone can look very good. And since
it is possibly a small area, you might get enough 'end of range' tiles to
do the job at a good price.

Marble tiles can be one such.


Marble tends to be slippery when wet, not ideal for a step.

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DJC wrote:
Marble tiles can be one such.


Marble tends to be slippery when wet, not ideal for a step.

OK here. But I never wear leather soled shoes.

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On 20/07/15 18:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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DJC wrote:
Marble tiles can be one such.


Marble tends to be slippery when wet, not ideal for a step.

OK here. But I never wear leather soled shoes.

But still a potential problem for visitors etc.

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DJC wrote:
On 20/07/15 18:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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DJC wrote:
Marble tiles can be one such.


Marble tends to be slippery when wet, not ideal for a step.

OK here. But I never wear leather soled shoes.

But still a potential problem for visitors etc.

It hasn't discouraged the God botherers. ;-)

They were sealed with the recommended stuff which may add some anti-slip,
though.

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On 19/07/2015 08:33, lid wrote:
Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

About a quarter of a century ago, I did a very successful repair to a
badly worn step using epoxy repair mortar, similar to this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epoxy-Repair.../dp/B00CFMVH1C

It is still standing up to fairly heavy use today. Unlike an ordinary
sand and cement mix, epoxy mortar can be laid to a feather edge.

--
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Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 19/07/2015 08:33, lid wrote:
Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

About a quarter of a century ago, I did a very successful repair to a
badly worn step using epoxy repair mortar, similar to this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epoxy-Repair.../dp/B00CFMVH1C

It is still standing up to fairly heavy use today. Unlike an ordinary
sand and cement mix, epoxy mortar can be laid to a feather edge.

Does it look ok? Problem with any sort of mortar repair is no two seem to
be the same colour. ;-)

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On 21/07/2015 13:19, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 19/07/2015 08:33, lid wrote:
Good morning,

I have got some concrete steps, which are badly eroded. What is the
best way to "resurface" these? Should I apply some pva or sbr to the
existing steps and then a screed of sand and cement? What ratio of
sand to cement would be best for this application?

About a quarter of a century ago, I did a very successful repair to a
badly worn step using epoxy repair mortar, similar to this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epoxy-Repair.../dp/B00CFMVH1C

It is still standing up to fairly heavy use today. Unlike an ordinary
sand and cement mix, epoxy mortar can be laid to a feather edge.

Does it look ok? Problem with any sort of mortar repair is no two seem to
be the same colour. ;-)


I spread it across the whole width of the step, which was the easiest
way to get everything level. So, the top looks an even colour, but you
can see the line of the join on the front of the step. However, it is
the entrance to a workshop, so function was far more important than looks.

--
Colin Bignell

On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:32:59 +0100, "Phil L"
wrote:

Thin screed doesn't work in these situations, it simply comes away after
very short usage.

You can either:

A) re-cast new concrete steps
B) tile over the eroded ones, or
C) live with the steps as they are

Thanks,

How thin is thin screed? What thickness would I need to make it work?

Would recasting the steps involve removing everything and starting
from nothing?

I will certainly look into tiling but I will consider all options.
I've got a bit of time because changing the lead pipe will mean some
digging through the steps anyway.

Thanks,
Stephen.

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:07:20 +0100, reply wrote:

Thin screed doesn't work in these situations, it simply comes away after
very short usage.

How thin is thin screed? What thickness would I need to make it work?

When we were looking at flattening a floor recently, we were told not to
bother with screed 25-30mm. And that was inside. Outside, I'd have
thought it'd need to be thicker.

Yes, recasting would involve breaking the old up and starting from
scratch - almost certainly not as big a deal as you're fearing...

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:18:11 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
wrote:

Yes, recasting would involve breaking the old up and starting from
scratch - almost certainly not as big a deal as you're fearing...

Yes, I was thinking that the steps were one mighty lump of concrete
and would be a big job to remove. I suppose that they are actually
lots of smaller slabs on top of earth, so perhaps there would not be
as much concrete to break and remove as perhaps I am worrying.

Thanks,
Stephen.