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I am providing a charity stand at the local carnival, to hand out leaflets
and make contact with potential new members.

This will be a gazebo (about 2.5m * 2.5m), a couple of tables, some boxes
of leaflets and some fold up chairs. Oh, and some collecting buckets.

Vehicle access to the area we are setting up in stops at 10:00 and doesn't
resume until 22:00. The event is for 2 days.

I don't have cover for all this period from volunteers to be at the stand,
so I may have to arrange to remove all the bits to safety without using a
vehicle.

I am now trying to think up a design for some kind of trolley (possibly
based on wheels fixed to folded tables) which could carry the rest.

Something like http://www.big-wheelbarrows.co.uk/5-
flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around £450
this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and store
to/from the parking near the site.

What I think I need is an axle and two wheels on a board which I can strap
to a table - need two to go front and back. It would be good if the front
axle was steerable.

The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the stuff
on top.
Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the table.

At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.

Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive) bits?

Thanks

Dave R

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I am providing a charity stand at the local carnival, to hand out
leaflets and make contact with potential new members.


This will be a gazebo (about 2.5m * 2.5m), a couple of tables, some boxes
of leaflets and some fold up chairs. Oh, and some collecting buckets.


Vehicle access to the area we are setting up in stops at 10:00 and
doesn't resume until 22:00. The event is for 2 days.


I don't have cover for all this period from volunteers to be at the
stand, so I may have to arrange to remove all the bits to safety without
using a vehicle.


I am now trying to think up a design for some kind of trolley (possibly
based on wheels fixed to folded tables) which could carry the rest.


Something like http://www.big-wheelbarrows.co.uk/5-
flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around £450
this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and store
to/from the parking near the site.


What I think I need is an axle and two wheels on a board which I can
strap to a table - need two to go front and back. It would be good if
the front axle was steerable.


The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the stuff
on top. Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the table.


At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.


Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive) bits?



how about a sack barrow? = or two

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In article , David
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The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the stuff
on top. Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the table.


At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.


Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive) bits?



how about a sack barrow? = or two


Sailing dinghy launch trolley kit?


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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 17:41:04 +0100, Charles Hope wrote:

In article , David

wrote:
I am providing a charity stand at the local carnival, to hand out
leaflets and make contact with potential new members.


This will be a gazebo (about 2.5m * 2.5m), a couple of tables, some
boxes of leaflets and some fold up chairs. Oh, and some collecting
buckets.


Vehicle access to the area we are setting up in stops at 10:00 and
doesn't resume until 22:00. The event is for 2 days.


I don't have cover for all this period from volunteers to be at the
stand, so I may have to arrange to remove all the bits to safety
without using a vehicle.


I am now trying to think up a design for some kind of trolley (possibly
based on wheels fixed to folded tables) which could carry the rest.


Something like http://www.big-wheelbarrows.co.uk/5-
flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around
£450 this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and
store to/from the parking near the site.


What I think I need is an axle and two wheels on a board which I can
strap to a table - need two to go front and back. It would be good if
the front axle was steerable.


The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the
stuff on top. Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the
table.


At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.


Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive)
bits?



how about a sack barrow? = or two



One sack barrow would be a problem as the table in question is 2.5 metres
long so way tall.

I am expecting the whole package to be too heavy to pick up one end with
wheels on the other.

I had worked out that if I had a second sack barrow I could strap one to
each end of the table, possibly, but I think that would be unsteerable.

I am remembering moving a mucking big steel beam balanced on a single
block of wood with two trailer wheels (brought by the steel supplier) so
two wheels in the middle might do nicely.

Looked at the Indespension site but this is all a bit expensive.
Budget in the £100s which is way too much.

However ideas are starting to come together and I could be looking for a
scrap two wheel trailer to rob the wheels and suspension.

I also have a small Daxara trailer out on loan to someone where I think
you can take the sides off to make it flat bed. It also stands on end for
storage. Worth exploring.

Cheers

David


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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 18:46:35 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

In message , Charles Hope
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In article , David

wrote:
The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the
stuff on top. Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from
the table.


At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the
bits but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.


Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive)
bits?



how about a sack barrow? = or two


Sailing dinghy launch trolley kit?


Good thought - I have found http://www.amazon.co.uk/SPOKED-wheelbarrow-
Trolley-Wheel-Pneumatic/dp/B00MY55H98

I would need to make some kind of U shaped bracket to keep the wheel clear
of the table - roughly a beam with two wheels beneath mounted on brackets.

I am looking at scavenging trailer bits at the moment, but if not this
looks a good possibility.

Cheers


Dave R


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On Saturday, 4 July 2015 16:54:36 UTC+1, David wrote:
Something like http://www.big-wheelbarrows.co.uk/5-
flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around £450
this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and store
to/from the parking near the site.


They're available for hire

http://www.hss.com/hire/p/large-4-wheel-turntable-truck

Would it go on a roofrack above a car for storage and transport?

A possible alternative is to borrow a horsebox or similar and leave it parked at your exhibit location. Drop the tailget when 'open' and lift and lock it when 'closed'.

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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 17:41:04 +0100, Charles Hope wrote:

In article , David

wrote:
I am providing a charity stand at the local carnival, to hand out
leaflets and make contact with potential new members.


This will be a gazebo (about 2.5m * 2.5m), a couple of tables, some
boxes of leaflets and some fold up chairs. Oh, and some collecting
buckets.


Vehicle access to the area we are setting up in stops at 10:00 and
doesn't resume until 22:00. The event is for 2 days.


I don't have cover for all this period from volunteers to be at the
stand, so I may have to arrange to remove all the bits to safety
without using a vehicle.


I am now trying to think up a design for some kind of trolley (possibly
based on wheels fixed to folded tables) which could carry the rest.


Something like http://www.big-wheelbarrows.co.uk/5-
flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around
£450 this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and
store to/from the parking near the site.


What I think I need is an axle and two wheels on a board which I can
strap to a table - need two to go front and back. It would be good if
the front axle was steerable.


The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the
stuff on top. Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the
table.


At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.


Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive)
bits?



how about a sack barrow? = or two



One sack barrow would be a problem as the table in question is 2.5 metres
long so way tall.

I am expecting the whole package to be too heavy to pick up one end with
wheels on the other.

I had worked out that if I had a second sack barrow I could strap one to
each end of the table, possibly, but I think that would be unsteerable.


I dont, I bet it would work fine.

I am remembering moving a mucking big steel beam balanced on a single
block of wood with two trailer wheels (brought by the steel supplier) so
two wheels in the middle might do nicely.

Looked at the Indespension site but this is all a bit expensive.
Budget in the £100s which is way too much.

However ideas are starting to come together and I could be looking for a
scrap two wheel trailer to rob the wheels and suspension.

I also have a small Daxara trailer out on loan to someone where I think
you can take the sides off to make it flat bed. It also stands on end for
storage. Worth exploring.


I'd get whoever has the sites next to yours to keep an eye out for your
site when its unmanned myself and save yourself a lot of trouble.

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On 4 Jul 2015 15:54:33 GMT, David wrote:

I am providing a charity stand at the local carnival, to hand out leaflets
and make contact with potential new members.

This will be a gazebo (about 2.5m * 2.5m), a couple of tables, some boxes
of leaflets and some fold up chairs. Oh, and some collecting buckets.


flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around £450
this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and store
to/from the parking near the site.

What I think I need is an axle and two wheels on a board which I can strap
to a table - need two to go front and back. It would be good if the front
axle was steerable.

The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the stuff
on top.
Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the table.

At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.

Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive) bits?


Have a look on Ebay using the term Large Castors, this will show
sets of 4 of the type often fitted to produce cages that you see being
unloaded from tail lift equipped lorries and wheeled in to shops and
the price you can pay for a set of four, they are surprisingly
inexpensive

A set of four could be fixed to your table or even and old pallet.
A proper set of castors will have two swiveling and two fixed and you
would pull the item with a rope.
Often you can get the castors in agricultural suppliers , or Machine
Mart but for various reasons I can't recommend the latter.


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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 00:04:29 +0100, damduck-egg wrote:

On 4 Jul 2015 15:54:33 GMT, David wrote:

I am providing a charity stand at the local carnival, to hand out
leaflets and make contact with potential new members.

This will be a gazebo (about 2.5m * 2.5m), a couple of tables, some
boxes of leaflets and some fold up chairs. Oh, and some collecting
buckets.


flatbed_turntable_truck_ht1101.htm would do the job, but at around £450
this is way over budget and also it is a big item to transport and store
to/from the parking near the site.

What I think I need is an axle and two wheels on a board which I can
strap to a table - need two to go front and back. It would be good if
the front axle was steerable.

The table then forms the bed of the truck and I tie the rest of the
stuff on top.
Much like a soap box cart but with the body made from the table.

At one time I would think of scavenging a large wheel pram for the bits
but these are now collectors items rather than junk shop items.

Can anyone help me with a search term to find suitable (inexpensive)
bits?


Have a look on Ebay using the term Large Castors, this will show sets
of 4 of the type often fitted to produce cages that you see being
unloaded from tail lift equipped lorries and wheeled in to shops and the
price you can pay for a set of four, they are surprisingly inexpensive

A set of four could be fixed to your table or even and old pallet.
A proper set of castors will have two swiveling and two fixed and you
would pull the item with a rope.
Often you can get the castors in agricultural suppliers , or Machine
Mart but for various reasons I can't recommend the latter.


G.Harman



I do have a set of castors currently on a furniture moving board.
I was thinking that they would probably be of too small a diameter to roll
comfortably for any distance, but they may be worth a try. They are hard
plastic, and I was aiming for something with rubber tyres.

Then again supermarket trolleys have small wheels.

I was thinking of asking Homebase if I could borrow one of their "heavy
stuff moving trolleys" because although they are only about a metre long
they could carry the load if it was firmly strapped on.

Cheers

Dave R


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On 6 Jul 2015 15:16:46 GMT, David wrote:


Have a look on Ebay using the term Large Castors,
Often you can get the castors in agricultural suppliers , or Machine
Mart but for various reasons I can't recommend the latter.


G.Harman



I do have a set of castors currently on a furniture moving board.
I was thinking that they would probably be of too small a diameter to roll
comfortably for any distance, but they may be worth a try. They are hard
plastic, and I was aiming for something with rubber tyres.


I was thinking of ones in the larger sizes and some have rubber tyres
,pneumatic in some cases.
But tonights post is to say that I see Aldi had some on Sale this
Sunday the 5th for 4.99 a set. The ones they class as transport
casters are 75mm diameter which I think would be a little small but
could be worth a look if you are near a branch.
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuy...castors-set-1/

G.Harman


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On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:58:54 +0100, damduck-egg wrote:

On 6 Jul 2015 15:16:46 GMT, David wrote:


Have a look on Ebay using the term Large Castors,
Often you can get the castors in agricultural suppliers , or Machine
Mart but for various reasons I can't recommend the latter.


G.Harman



I do have a set of castors currently on a furniture moving board.
I was thinking that they would probably be of too small a diameter to
roll comfortably for any distance, but they may be worth a try. They are
hard plastic, and I was aiming for something with rubber tyres.


I was thinking of ones in the larger sizes and some have rubber tyres
,pneumatic in some cases.
But tonights post is to say that I see Aldi had some on Sale this Sunday
the 5th for 4.99 a set. The ones they class as transport casters are
75mm diameter which I think would be a little small but could be worth a
look if you are near a branch.
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuy...t-detail/ps/p/

castors-set-1/

G.Harman


Thanks - interesting.

The problem I foresee with the Transport casters is that (I assume) they
don't swivel so my trolley won't go round corners.

The set I have are about 75mm and have two fixed castors and two swivel
castors with friction brakes.

If I could get those with rubber tyres they might be worth a try.

Cheers

Dave R



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