http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

--
Adam

ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

By the sound of it, it's more of an underground garage than a secret
cellar since the locals knew about it and he'd had it out before.

Interesting demonstration of modern paranoia; an old man who has kept a
tank in the same vein as people keeping traction engines and old cars,
is treated as if he's going to be going on another Killdozer attack.

--
Scott

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:34:27 +0100, Scott M wrote:

Interesting demonstration of modern paranoia; an old man who has kept a
tank in the same vein as people keeping traction engines and old cars,
is treated as if he's going to be going on another Killdozer attack.

Bit more to it than that, by the sound of it.

Prosecutors in the nearby city of Kiel are investigating whether the
man's military collection violates Germany's War Weapons Control Act.
But his lawyer says the weapons are no longer functional, therefore
shouldn't be restricted.
Local prosecutors were tipped off about the cellar's contents by
colleagues in Berlin, who searched the home for stolen Nazi art earlier
this year.

On 03/07/2015 20:34, Scott M wrote:
ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

By the sound of it, it's more of an underground garage than a secret
cellar since the locals knew about it and he'd had it out before.

Interesting demonstration of modern paranoia; an old man who has kept a
tank in the same vein as people keeping traction engines and old cars,
is treated as if he's going to be going on another Killdozer attack.

It does rather depend on whether he had any significant munitions, which
curiously is not mentioned. In the UK there is an immediate mention of
the bomb squad if there is thought to be any possibility of explosives.

On 03/07/2015 19:43, ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

A lot of continental homes still have big cellars - cheap source of cool
air in summer and a good place to store wine & beer.

How they got it out again is probably a good clue to how it went in.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

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newshound writes
On 03/07/2015 20:34, Scott M wrote:
ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

By the sound of it, it's more of an underground garage than a secret
cellar since the locals knew about it and he'd had it out before.

Interesting demonstration of modern paranoia; an old man who has kept a
tank in the same vein as people keeping traction engines and old cars,
is treated as if he's going to be going on another Killdozer attack.

It does rather depend on whether he had any significant munitions,
which curiously is not mentioned. In the UK there is an immediate
mention of the bomb squad if there is thought to be any possibility of
explosives.

The munitions collector from St. Albans is currently being prosecuted.
Not sure of the grounds. Perhaps illegal metal detecting:-)

--
Tim Lamb

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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In article ,
newshound wrote:

On 03/07/2015 20:34, Scott M wrote:
ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

By the sound of it, it's more of an underground garage than a secret
cellar since the locals knew about it and he'd had it out before.

Interesting demonstration of modern paranoia; an old man who has kept a
tank in the same vein as people keeping traction engines and old cars,
is treated as if he's going to be going on another Killdozer attack.

It does rather depend on whether he had any significant munitions, which
curiously is not mentioned.

It did mention a torpedo. Plenty of HE in one of those.

Only if its still got it in it and isn't a practice torpedo.

On 03/07/2015 20:34, Scott M wrote:
ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

By the sound of it, it's more of an underground garage than a secret
cellar since the locals knew about it and he'd had it out before.

Interesting demonstration of modern paranoia; an old man who has kept a
tank in the same vein as people keeping traction engines and old cars,
is treated as if he's going to be going on another Killdozer attack.

Except that you don't need a licence to collect traction engines, but
you do need one in Germany if you want to collect weapons of war,
whether deactivated or not.

--
Colin Bignell

On Saturday, 4 July 2015 11:36:39 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
Except that you don't need a licence to collect traction engines, but
you do need one in Germany if you want to collect weapons of war,
whether deactivated or not.

That's Germany for you.

In Britain the government is selling off bits of the military and the BBC on ramco.

Owain

On 04/07/2015 12:27, wrote:
On Saturday, 4 July 2015 11:36:39 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
Except that you don't need a licence to collect traction engines, but
you do need one in Germany if you want to collect weapons of war,
whether deactivated or not.

That's Germany for you.

They do seem to have a habit of losing wars and having restrictions
placed upon what weapons they can own.

In Britain the government is selling off bits of the military and the BBC on ramco.

Just wait until some Jehadist decides to buy an Abbot SPG and restore it
to full working order.


--
Colin Bignell

On 03/07/2015 19:43, ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?


Multi-level underground carpark, by the final seconds of the video* on
Der Tagesspiegel website. He also had a great big flak cannon and some
torpedos, but no u-boat was mentioned...

(*
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/weltspieg.../12001682.html)

On Friday, 3 July 2015 19:43:34 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

--
Adam

Probably an old friend. Drove it halfway to Moscow seventy years ago.
Typical of the EUSSR mentality that they've taken it from him.

A garage owner has a Russian tank parked on the forecourt just up the road from me.
http://showmystreet.com/#0v10ug_-1gue6_g-5_10

"harry" wrote in message
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On Friday, 3 July 2015 19:43:34 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

--
Adam

Probably an old friend. Drove it halfway to Moscow seventy years ago.
Typical of the EUSSR mentality that they've taken it from him.

Nothing to do with the EUSSR, that's just the krauts being terminally
stupid.

A garage owner has a Russian tank parked on the forecourt just up the road
from me.
http://showmystreet.com/#0v10ug_-1gue6_g-5_10

On 05/07/2015 06:31, harry wrote:
On Friday, 3 July 2015 19:43:34 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-33381772

And HTF did he get it down there?

--
Adam

Probably an old friend. Drove it halfway to Moscow seventy years ago.
Typical of the EUSSR mentality that they've taken it from him...

It was Britain and our Allies who banned Germans from owning tanks, both
in 1919 and in 1946.


--
Colin Bignell

On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 10:45:14 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

On 05/07/2015 06:31, harry wrote:
Typical of the EUSSR mentality that they've taken it from him...

It was Britain and our Allies who banned Germans from owning tanks, both
in 1919 and in 1946.

I wonder why...?

Obviously, the small detail that if it WAS an "EUSSR" rule, then it'd
apply equally across all EU members - including the UK - escapes Harry.

On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 09:52:34 +0000, Adrian wrote:


Obviously, the small detail that if it WAS an "EUSSR" rule, then it'd
apply equally across all EU members - including the UK - escapes Harry.


Im with harry
never let the facts spoil a good story

steve