There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

You may be thinking of Camelia Oil

http://www.axminster.co.uk/camellia-oil-applicator

Best to keep tools in a drawer if possible and cover with a piece of cotton cloth but there are a myriad solutions to this problem. Google is your friend.

fred wrote:
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

You may be thinking of Camelia Oil

http://www.axminster.co.uk/camellia-oil-applicator

Best to keep tools in a drawer if possible and cover with a piece of cotton cloth but there are a myriad solutions to this problem. Google is your friend.

Or maybe Boeshield?

On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 3:35:46 PM UTC+1, Bob Minchin wrote:
fred wrote:
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

You may be thinking of Camelia Oil

http://www.axminster.co.uk/camellia-oil-applicator

Best to keep tools in a drawer if possible and cover with a piece of cotton cloth but there are a myriad solutions to this problem. Google is your friend.

Or maybe Boeshield?

I.M.E. Boeshield is excellent but is slightly more oily than Camelia oil.

A good solid car wax would also be effective or Liberon make a machine wax which I've also used successfully. Stay away from anything with Silicone in it as it may affect any finishes you apply later

On 08/06/15 15:50, fred wrote:

I.M.E. Boeshield is excellent but is slightly more oily than Camelia oil.

A good solid car wax would also be effective or Liberon make a machine wax which I've also used successfully. Stay away from anything with Silicone in it as it may affect any finishes you apply later


Indeed (re the silicone - last thing I wanted).

I've ordered a can to try. I suspect this will do nicely for things with
hard to reach nooks. I keep my best tools indoors, but it would be nice
if my basic stuff like screwdrivers, jigsaw and handsaws would survive
better in the shed.

In article ,
fred wrote:
A good solid car wax would also be effective or Liberon make a machine
wax which I've also used successfully. Stay away from anything with
Silicone in it as it may affect any finishes you apply later

How would something like Waxoyl compare price wise? Can be removed with
white spirit.

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On 08/06/15 15:35, Bob Minchin wrote:
fred wrote:
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

You may be thinking of Camelia Oil

http://www.axminster.co.uk/camellia-oil-applicator

Best to keep tools in a drawer if possible and cover with a piece of
cotton cloth but there are a myriad solutions to this problem. Google
is your friend.

Or maybe Boeshield?

That is not what I recall people talking about - but it certainly fits
the bill "T-9 dries to a clean, waxy, waterproof film" and "T-9 will not
harm paint, plastic, rubber, fiberglass or vinyl. It can be used on
engines, wiring and belts. T-9 is nonconductive and will not cause short
circuits, so it’s also safe to use on electronics."

Not cheap - but I suspect a little goes a long way... Thanks too!

On 08/06/15 15:18, fred wrote:
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last
winter saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not
want anything oily or messy - something more like a thin wax
coating in spray where the solvent dries off?

You may be thinking of Camelia Oil

http://www.axminster.co.uk/camellia-oil-applicator

Ah - that's the stuff!

Thanks fred.

Best to keep tools in a drawer if possible

Ideally - but right now I just have open shelves.

Next year when I get power out there, I might be able to leave a
dehumidifier on a low setting (the shed has quite a well fitting door
and is not full of holes). Most of the year the exposed wood in the shed
and shelving seems to buffer the moisture - but during winder it's just
too much and it condenses.

On 08/06/15 14:57, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

Any chance that rust inhibitor paper might be useful?
http://www.packability.co.uk/Rust-Inhibitor-Paper

--

Jeff

On 08/06/15 18:26, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 08/06/15 14:57, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

Any chance that rust inhibitor paper might be useful?
http://www.packability.co.uk/Rust-Inhibitor-Paper


I've always wondered how that works - does it produce a vapour that
condenses on the item?

On 08/06/15 20:27, Tim Watts wrote:
On 08/06/15 18:26, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 08/06/15 14:57, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

Any chance that rust inhibitor paper might be useful?
http://www.packability.co.uk/Rust-Inhibitor-Paper


I've always wondered how that works - does it produce a vapour that
condenses on the item?

I assume so. The usual term used is "Volatile corrosion inhibitor".
"This is from http://www.packagingproducts.co.uk/A...on-Papers.htm:

"The VCI forms an invisible protective film on metals which have been
packaged. The VCI protective film disperses without a trace when the
package is opened and the metal goods can be used immediately without
any cleaning procedures."

--

Jeff

On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

WD40.

harry wrote on 08/06/2015 :
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

WD40.

That is what I use, on my lathe - it keeps it free of rust and there is
a lot of surface to rust. Its in my unheated garage/workshop. I just
give it a quick spray every autumn.

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

In message ,
harry writes
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

WD40.

Indeed. It's the obvious thing to use!
--
Ian

On 09/06/15 21:49, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message ,
harry writes
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

WD40.

Indeed. It's the obvious thing to use!

No - too messy... I've rejected that.

I do spray an oil mist on garden tools and that works fine sectaeurs,
hedge cutters etc) but I don't want drills, screwdrivers and the like
dripping with greasy gunk.

In message , Tim Watts
writes
On 09/06/15 21:49, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message ,
harry writes
On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 2:57:11 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

WD40.

Indeed. It's the obvious thing to use!

No - too messy... I've rejected that.

I do spray an oil mist on garden tools and that works fine sectaeurs,
hedge cutters etc) but I don't want drills, screwdrivers and the like
dripping with greasy gunk.

Before you spray them, just lay them on some old newspaper, some rags,
or some kitchen tissue, then as you remove them, wipe off any serious
excess. Or if you leave them for a day or two, the most volatile of the
solvent will have evaporated anyway.
--
Ian

On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:57:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

ACF50?

http://www.acf-50.co.uk/

On 8 Jun 2015 18:33:35 GMT, John wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:57:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

ACF50?

http://www.acf-50.co.uk/

Seconded.

A mate introduced me to the stuff and it is very good indeed. He did
the classic 'steel nail in a half jar of water' experiment and was
amazed at the difference in protection ACF-50 offered over WD40 (his
normal 'go-to' metal protector).

The unprotected nail was rusting very quickly, the WD40 treated one
was rusting after a week or two but the ACF-50 protected one still
wasn't rusting after weeks and weeks.

No connection etc.

Cheers, T i m

In message , T i m
writes
On 8 Jun 2015 18:33:35 GMT, John wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:57:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

ACF50?

http://www.acf-50.co.uk/

Seconded.

A mate introduced me to the stuff and it is very good indeed. He did
the classic 'steel nail in a half jar of water' experiment and was
amazed at the difference in protection ACF-50 offered over WD40 (his
normal 'go-to' metal protector).

The unprotected nail was rusting very quickly, the WD40 treated one
was rusting after a week or two but the ACF-50 protected one still
wasn't rusting after weeks and weeks.

No connection etc.

Cheers, T i m

I wouldn't expect WD40 to provide too much protection for anything
immersed in water - but this is not a normal scenario for tools and
drill bits. However, it undoubtedly works pretty well as a
general-purpose anti-corrosive, short-term lubricant, sticky label
remover, barbecue flame accelerant etc. It's also a heck of a lot
cheaper than ACF-50, and it's available over-the-counter at all good DIY
shops.
--
Ian

On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 9:16:51 AM UTC+1, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , T i m
writes
On 8 Jun 2015 18:33:35 GMT, John wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:57:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

There's an anti rust coating for steel tools I vaguely remember is
favoured by woodworkers as it does not contaminate wood.

Anyone recall what it is called?

I have more tools in the shed now and I need to coat them - last winter
saw a thin layer of rust appear on some of them. I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

ACF50?

http://www.acf-50.co.uk/

Seconded.

A mate introduced me to the stuff and it is very good indeed. He did
the classic 'steel nail in a half jar of water' experiment and was
amazed at the difference in protection ACF-50 offered over WD40 (his
normal 'go-to' metal protector).

The unprotected nail was rusting very quickly, the WD40 treated one
was rusting after a week or two but the ACF-50 protected one still
wasn't rusting after weeks and weeks.

No connection etc.

Cheers, T i m

I wouldn't expect WD40 to provide too much protection for anything
immersed in water - but this is not a normal scenario for tools and
drill bits. However, it undoubtedly works pretty well as a
general-purpose anti-corrosive, short-term lubricant, sticky label
remover, barbecue flame accelerant etc. It's also a heck of a lot
cheaper than ACF-50, and it's available over-the-counter at all good DIY
shops.
--
Ian

One last suggestion. Renaissance Wax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Wax

It receives rave reviews on woodworking sites but I didn't think it anything special.

On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:57:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

I use a microcrystalline wax called Cosmoloid H 80 dissolved in white spirits,
brush/spray/dip and let dry. It's what restorers and archeologists use...

http://www.kremer-pigmente.com/en/pr...&sorting=model

or

http://www.kremer-pigmente.com/en/so...l-t-62802.html

Postage may be prohibitive for you -- I paid around 4 Euros for 100 grams at the
store, which is enough for 5 liters of solution. The protective film won't wipe
off like camelia oil, is not visible, and lasts through use. No compatibility
problems with any finish I have used, either.


Thomas Prufer

On 09/06/15 09:04, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:57:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

I do not want anything
oily or messy - something more like a thin wax coating in spray where
the solvent dries off?

I use a microcrystalline wax called Cosmoloid H 80 dissolved in white spirits,
brush/spray/dip and let dry. It's what restorers and archeologists use...

http://www.kremer-pigmente.com/en/pr...&sorting=model

or

http://www.kremer-pigmente.com/en/so...l-t-62802.html

Postage may be prohibitive for you -- I paid around 4 Euros for 100 grams at the
store, which is enough for 5 liters of solution. The protective film won't wipe
off like camelia oil, is not visible, and lasts through use. No compatibility
problems with any finish I have used, either.


Thank you - I'll bookmark that and see how the Boeshield performs...