https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4
PLUS ONE!

In article ,
"harryagain" wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

Is anyone actually going to follow a link with that Subject line? I
mean: Pro or Con Farage, most people like to change the record now and
again.

J.

"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

Germany 202,645
Sweden 81,180
Italy 64,625
France 62,735
Hungary 42,775
UK 31,745

As for the crisis in the Mediterranean, unless the others are taking a
very strange route into the EU, Libya is likely to be the embarkation
point for only a couple of the five most common places of origin for
asylum seekers in the UK. For 2014, the figures we

Pakistan 3,990
Eritrea 3,280
Iran 2,500
Syria 2,410
Albania 1,890
Others 17,675

Syrians mostly want to go to Germany (41,100 applicants in 2014) and
Sweden (30,750).

--
Colin Bignell

Nightjar scribbled


On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

Germany 202,645
Sweden 81,180
Italy 64,625
France 62,735
Hungary 42,775
UK 31,745

As for the crisis in the Mediterranean, unless the others are taking a
very strange route into the EU, Libya is likely to be the embarkation
point for only a couple of the five most common places of origin for
asylum seekers in the UK. For 2014, the figures we

Pakistan 3,990
Eritrea 3,280
Iran 2,500
Syria 2,410
Albania 1,890
Others 17,675

Syrians mostly want to go to Germany (41,100 applicants in 2014) and
Sweden (30,750).


FFS what's with the facts, you'll only confuse the bigots.

In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU.
In 2104, we were the sixth most popular choice, with the
number of asylum seekers being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes
those running away from religious extremists

Its very far from clear that any are actually running
away from religious extremists with the ones he was
going on about in that speech. They are almost all
economic 'refugees'

- and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

On 30/04/15 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.


I'm also far from clear why Plowman assumes they are running away from
religious extremists or why Plowman assumes that Farage assumes that
they are going to be the very same religious extremists.

In short it would seem to be just the usual straw men from the usual
lefty****


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 00:16:23 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

Because it's a handy conspiracy theory to scare the hard-of-thinking with.

On 30/04/15 08:17, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 00:16:23 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

Because it's a handy conspiracy theory to scare the hard-of-thinking with.

Is Plowperson scared though? I suppose he probably is.


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 29/04/2015 23:51, Jonno wrote:
Nightjar scribbled


On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

Germany 202,645
Sweden 81,180
Italy 64,625
France 62,735
Hungary 42,775
UK 31,745

As for the crisis in the Mediterranean, unless the others are taking a
very strange route into the EU, Libya is likely to be the embarkation
point for only a couple of the five most common places of origin for
asylum seekers in the UK. For 2014, the figures we

Pakistan 3,990
Eritrea 3,280
Iran 2,500
Syria 2,410
Albania 1,890
Others 17,675

Syrians mostly want to go to Germany (41,100 applicants in 2014) and
Sweden (30,750).


FFS what's with the facts, you'll only confuse the bigots.

Apparently, I am the bigot, for not using the UKIP approved Newspeak
name for their immigration policy.



--
Colin Bignell

On 30/04/2015 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

The second largest group of Mediterranean refugees, after Syrians, are
from Eritrea, which is a predominantly Christian country: 63.5% overall,
but up to 94% in some areas. They are fleeing their own government,
which has managed to beat North Korea into second place as the world's
most repressive regime.

--
Colin Bignell

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/04/15 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.


I'm also far from clear why Plowman assumes they are running away from
religious extremists or why Plowman assumes that Farage assumes that
they are going to be the very same religious extremists.

I suppose it was too much to assume you understood what asylum means.

In short it would seem to be just the usual straw men from the usual
lefty****

I did find it amusing seeing Farage berating the EU for its policies being
the reason there is poverty in Africa, etc. As if he gave a monkeys.

--
*The modem is the message *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 30/04/2015 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

The second largest group of Mediterranean refugees, after Syrians, are
from Eritrea, which is a predominantly Christian country: 63.5% overall,
but up to 94% in some areas. They are fleeing their own government,
which has managed to beat North Korea into second place as the world's
most repressive regime.

Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain cell
between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to get to a
country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

--
*No hand signals. Driver on Viagra*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) scribbled



I suppose it was too much to assume you understood what asylum means.


Hasn't he spent a few years in one?

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/04/15 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104,
we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.


I'm also far from clear why Plowman assumes they are running away from
religious extremists or why Plowman assumes that Farage assumes that
they are going to be the very same religious extremists.

I suppose it was too much to assume you understood what asylum means.

**** all of those are seeking asylum.

In short it would seem to be just the usual straw men from the usual
lefty****

I did find it amusing seeing Farage berating the EU for its policies being
the reason there is poverty in Africa, etc. As if he gave a monkeys.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 30/04/2015 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104,
we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

The second largest group of Mediterranean refugees, after Syrians, are
from Eritrea, which is a predominantly Christian country: 63.5% overall,
but up to 94% in some areas. They are fleeing their own government,
which has managed to beat North Korea into second place as the world's
most repressive regime.

Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain cell
between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to get to a
country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

Have fun explaining suicide bombers that do a lot more than just risk life
and limb.

On 30/04/15 10:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/04/15 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.


I'm also far from clear why Plowman assumes they are running away from
religious extremists or why Plowman assumes that Farage assumes that
they are going to be the very same religious extremists.

I suppose it was too much to assume you understood what asylum means.

In short it would seem to be just the usual straw men from the usual
lefty****

I did find it amusing seeing Farage berating the EU for its policies being
the reason there is poverty in Africa, etc. As if he gave a monkeys.

And what evidence, beyond your blatant bigotry, do you have for saying that?


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 30/04/15 10:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 30/04/2015 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

The second largest group of Mediterranean refugees, after Syrians, are
from Eritrea, which is a predominantly Christian country: 63.5% overall,
but up to 94% in some areas. They are fleeing their own government,
which has managed to beat North Korea into second place as the world's
most repressive regime.

Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain cell
between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to get to a
country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

Like we did in Iraq you mean?

Ok those weren't refugees, They were soldiers.

But lets suppose there are people who want to destroy Britain. Why would
they NOT become refugees in order to do so?

Once again tour blatant bigotry is blinding you to the obvious.

Jimmy Saville didn't become a charity donor and supporter for children's
homes just because he was a perv . Gay vicars don't run the boy scouts
so they can indulge in sessions at summer camp do they?

Everybody is 100% honest all the time and only do things from openly
stated motives, never from covert ones.

Welcpme to LaLa land of teletubby Plowmen!



--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 30/04/15 11:26, Jonno wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) scribbled



I suppose it was too much to assume you understood what asylum means.


Hasn't he spent a few years in one?

Who? Dave? Wouldn't surprise me. He is somewhat disconnected from reality.


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:40:31 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

asylum seekers aren;lt teh same as immigrants wanting to come to the UK or anywhere else. They are TWO differnt sets.



Germany 202,645
Sweden 81,180
Italy 64,625
France 62,735
Hungary 42,775
UK 31,745

As for the crisis in the Mediterranean, unless the others are taking a
very strange route into the EU, Libya is likely to be the embarkation
point for only a couple of the five most common places of origin for
asylum seekers in the UK. For 2014, the figures we

Pakistan 3,990
Eritrea 3,280
Iran 2,500
Syria 2,410
Albania 1,890
Others 17,675

Syrians mostly want to go to Germany (41,100 applicants in 2014) and
Sweden (30,750).

--
Colin Bignell

On Thursday, 30 April 2015 06:33:05 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/04/15 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.


I'm also far from clear why Plowman assumes they are running away from
religious extremists or why Plowman assumes that Farage assumes that
they are going to be the very same religious extremists.

In short it would seem to be just the usual straw men from the usual
lefty****

pretty obvious that they are coming for the weather ;-)

On Thursday, 30 April 2015 11:42:50 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/04/15 10:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 30/04/2015 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

The second largest group of Mediterranean refugees, after Syrians, are
from Eritrea, which is a predominantly Christian country: 63.5% overall,
but up to 94% in some areas. They are fleeing their own government,
which has managed to beat North Korea into second place as the world's
most repressive regime.

Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain cell
between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to get to a
country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

Like we did in Iraq you mean?

What about spain.


Ok those weren't refugees, They were soldiers.

What wewre teh londers and essex's that migrated to spain doing when they took the money and had villas built for them and went to live there.
Thew spanish claime dthey wrecked teh towns and put up house prices making them unafordably by the locals.



But lets suppose there are people who want to destroy Britain. Why would
they NOT become refugees in order to do so?

They are what htey are, we tend to put lablels on them so we can more easily identify them. A nike T-shirt is not enough of an ID.


Jimmy Saville didn't become a charity donor and supporter for children's
homes just because he was a perv .

Maybe he found that the easist way to get what he wanted.

Gay vicars don't run the boy scouts
so they can indulge in sessions at summer camp do they?

Why else would they run just boy camps.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
On 30/04/2015 00:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar cpb@ insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:
We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104,
we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

I'm also far from clear why Farage assumes those running away from
religious extremists - and willing to risk death in the process - are
going to be the very same religious extremists.

The second largest group of Mediterranean refugees, after Syrians, are
from Eritrea, which is a predominantly Christian country: 63.5% overall,
but up to 94% in some areas. They are fleeing their own government,
which has managed to beat North Korea into second place as the world's
most repressive regime.

Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain cell
between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to get to a
country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

They destroy it by just being here in the numbers coming.

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
I suppose it was too much to assume you understood what asylum means.

**** all of those are seeking asylum.

Even more wear to the crystal ball.

--
*Honk if you love peace and quiet.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain
cell between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to
get to a country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

Have fun explaining suicide bombers that do a lot more than just risk
life and limb.

Yes. The average suicide bomber risks dying by drowning on an overcrowded
boat before getting to his destination - taking care to keep his powder
dry.

--
*Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I did find it amusing seeing Farage berating the EU for its policies
being the reason there is poverty in Africa, etc. As if he gave a
monkeys.

And what evidence, beyond your blatant bigotry, do you have for saying
that?

The likes of you and his other supporters. Next?

--
*Velcro - what a rip off!*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
The Natural wrote:
I did find it amusing seeing Farage berating the EU for its policies
being the reason there is poverty in Africa, etc. As if he gave a
monkeys.

And what evidence, beyond your blatant bigotry, do you have for saying
that?

The likes of you and his other supporters. Next?


I see, as usual, none.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Rod wrote:
Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain
cell between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to
get to a country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

Have fun explaining suicide bombers that do a lot more than just risk
life and limb.

Yes. The average suicide bomber risks dying by drowning on an overcrowded
boat before getting to his destination - taking care to keep his powder
dry.


No, some will.

On 30/04/15 14:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain
cell between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to
get to a country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

Have fun explaining suicide bombers that do a lot more than just risk
life and limb.

Yes. The average suicide bomber risks dying by drowning on an overcrowded
boat before getting to his destination - taking care to keep his powder
dry.

Still stuck in the 19th century I see, Hint. Semtex works even when wet...

--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 30/04/15 14:30, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I did find it amusing seeing Farage berating the EU for its policies
being the reason there is poverty in Africa, etc. As if he gave a
monkeys.

And what evidence, beyond your blatant bigotry, do you have for saying
that?

The likes of you and his other supporters. Next?

So what have I said or done the gives you reason to believe Nigel Farage
doesn't give a monkeys?

Should I therefore deduce that Ed Miliband is a thick lefty **** with a
chip on his shoulder the size of a parrot, just because you are/have?


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 30/04/2015 13:01, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:40:31 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

asylum seekers aren;lt teh same as immigrants wanting to come to the UK or anywhere else. They are TWO differnt sets.

Nigel was specifically talking about Libya and the situation in the
Mediterranean.


--
Colin Bignell

On Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:55:42 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
On 30/04/2015 13:01, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:40:31 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

asylum seekers aren;lt teh same as immigrants wanting to come to the UK or anywhere else. They are TWO differnt sets.

Nigel was specifically talking about Libya and the situation in the
Mediterranean.

then perhaps it's important to know the differncies

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/the-uk-and-asylum.html

Also note that not a single one is Polish, but in 2011 there were over 1/2 million Polish in the UK. Not counting other nationailities of course.
And that was 4 years ago.

So spouting that the UK has a low number of refugess and asylum seekers is completely missing the point, some might think delibratly.

Nightjar cpb@ wrote:
On 29/04/2015 23:51, Jonno wrote:
Nightjar scribbled


On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers
being:

Germany 202,645
Sweden 81,180
Italy 64,625
France 62,735
Hungary 42,775
UK 31,745

As for the crisis in the Mediterranean, unless the others are taking a
very strange route into the EU, Libya is likely to be the embarkation
point for only a couple of the five most common places of origin for
asylum seekers in the UK. For 2014, the figures we

Pakistan 3,990
Eritrea 3,280
Iran 2,500
Syria 2,410
Albania 1,890
Others 17,675

Syrians mostly want to go to Germany (41,100 applicants in 2014) and
Sweden (30,750).


FFS what's with the facts, you'll only confuse the bigots.

Apparently, I am the bigot, for not using the UKIP approved Newspeak
name for their immigration policy.




As UKIP are the only party with a valid immigration policy, I see that
your head is in the sand again. UKIP are locked out of Tonights Question
Time for leaders even though their share of the vote is higher than the
limpdems! We now have achieved censorship in our national broadcaster.
How do you like that? Do you support it?

On 30/04/2015 16:37, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:55:42 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
On 30/04/2015 13:01, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 April 2015 23:40:31 UTC+1, Nightjar wrote:
On 29/04/2015 21:45, Simon Brown wrote:


"harryagain" wrote in message
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTwOap7ohc4

What that fool fails to recognise is that Britain has
HALF the immigration rate that Australia does.

We are also far from the most popular destination in the EU. In 2104, we
were the sixth most popular choice, with the number of asylum seekers being:

asylum seekers aren;lt teh same as immigrants wanting to come to the UK or anywhere else. They are TWO differnt sets.

Nigel was specifically talking about Libya and the situation in the
Mediterranean.

then perhaps it's important to know the differncies

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/the-uk-and-asylum.html

Also note that not a single one is Polish, but in 2011 there were over 1/2 million Polish in the UK. Not counting other nationailities of course.
And that was 4 years ago.

So spouting that the UK has a low number of refugess and asylum seekers is completely missing the point, some might think delibratly.

Do try to keep your attributions straight. Dave Plowman wrote about the
immigration rate. I wrote about the numbers of asylum seekers. If you
wish to dispute the immigration figures, you should be replying to DP.


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Capitol wrote:
As UKIP are the only party with a valid immigration policy,

Depends what you mean by valid. They claim they will reduce the rate of
immigration. But then so have the Tories and Labour at various times.

Of course if UKIP actually got power, no one would want to come here
anyway. The ports would be full of people leaving to get away from them.

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On 30/04/2015 18:03, Capitol wrote:
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As UKIP are the only party with a valid immigration policy,...

That is entirely a matter of opinion and I disagree with you.

UKIP are locked out of Tonights
Question Time for leaders even though their share of the vote is higher
than the limpdems!

We won't know what share of the vote they have until after next
Thursday. All else is conjecture.

We now have achieved censorship in our national
broadcaster. How do you like that? Do you support it?

It is no more censorship than is omitting the SNP, who are far more
likely to be important in the next parliament, or the Greens. It is
simply speaking to the leaders of the three parties with the most MPs.
That may or may not change next week, but for this week, it is still the
case that they are the three main parliamentary parties.

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On 30/04/15 18:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Capitol wrote:
As UKIP are the only party with a valid immigration policy,

Depends what you mean by valid. They claim they will reduce the rate of
immigration. But then so have the Tories and Labour at various times.

Of course if UKIP actually got power, no one would want to come here
anyway. The ports would be full of people leaving to get away from them.

Fantastic. That should solve the housing shortage

With luck all the full of hate people would go as well.



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On 30/04/2015 14:00, harryagain wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Only the likes of Farage and his supporters who don't possess a brain cell
between them would believe refugees would risk life and limb to get to a
country when their sole purpose was to destroy it.

They destroy it by just being here in the numbers coming.

In 2014, the UK granted just over 14,000 requests for asylum. Are you
really frightened by that number?

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Colin Bignell