I know I've asked before but this time it needs to happen. A Compro ip camera I have been struggling with since day 1 is now missing events too many times...

can anyone recommend a reliable ip camera for less than £100?

it can be indoor or outdoor but I expect the fomer
it must have motion detection and send images attach to e-mails,
ideally it shouldn't need windows to set it up and administer it but if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant upgrade demands).

I would prefer a uk source/ supplier but anything considered

TIA

Jim K

On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
I know I've asked before but this time it needs to happen. A Compro ip camera I have been struggling with since day 1 is now missing events too many times...

can anyone recommend a reliable ip camera for less than £100?

it can be indoor or outdoor but I expect the fomer
it must have motion detection and send images attach to e-mails,
ideally it shouldn't need windows to set it up and administer it but if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant upgrade demands).

I would prefer a uk source/ supplier but anything considered

Hikvision meets most of your features and price criteria, and it is
possible to set up much of it under firefox, but sadly windows is needed
for the ActiveX parts that defined image detection regions and similar.

I have not yet found an IP camera in the domestic range that does not
need Windows and I did ask on a WebCam forum...

On Friday, 24 April 2015 12:43:12 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
I know I've asked before but this time it needs to happen. A Compro ip camera I have been struggling with since day 1 is now missing events too many times...

can anyone recommend a reliable ip camera for less than £100?

it can be indoor or outdoor but I expect the fomer
it must have motion detection and send images attach to e-mails,
ideally it shouldn't need windows to set it up and administer it but if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant upgrade demands).

I would prefer a uk source/ supplier but anything considered

Hikvision meets most of your features and price criteria, and it is
possible to set up much of it under firefox, but sadly windows is needed
for the ActiveX parts that defined image detection regions and similar.

I have not yet found an IP camera in the domestic range that does not
need Windows and I did ask on a WebCam forum...

I've run one from a Mac for years using eveocam software, but I guess that's not much use to the OP. There are petcams and babycams where you can send a message if movement or sound is detected.
I'm not sure iof the hero-sports cams can email or not.

On 24/04/2015 14:17, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 24 April 2015 12:43:12 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
I know I've asked before but this time it needs to happen. A Compro ip camera I have been struggling with since day 1 is now missing events too many times...

can anyone recommend a reliable ip camera for less than £100?

it can be indoor or outdoor but I expect the fomer
it must have motion detection and send images attach to e-mails,
ideally it shouldn't need windows to set it up and administer it but if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant upgrade demands).

I would prefer a uk source/ supplier but anything considered

Hikvision meets most of your features and price criteria, and it is
possible to set up much of it under firefox, but sadly windows is needed
for the ActiveX parts that defined image detection regions and similar.

I have not yet found an IP camera in the domestic range that does not
need Windows and I did ask on a WebCam forum...

I've run one from a Mac for years using eveocam software, but I guess that's not much use to the OP. There are petcams and babycams where you can send a message if movement or sound is detected.
I'm not sure iof the hero-sports cams can email or not.



I run a Raspberry Pi in a camera housing with its Camera module, and the
'motion' software. Very high quality images, and so far, very reliable.

Can view it live, and it captures motion events to jpegs and avis.

On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that
I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant
upgrade demands).

Virtual box and XP black edition?

--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

/I run a Raspberry Pi in a camera housing with its Camera module, and the
'motion' software. Very high quality images, and so far, very reliable.

Can view it live, and it captures motion events to jpegs and avis. /q

Interesting.

I've studied those and I'm tempted, but stories of instability of the PI especially in longterm 'always on' applications put me off a bit....

How often does yours fallover?
And how much are we talking all in?

Cheers
Jim K

/The Natural Philosopher
On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that
I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant
upgrade demands).

Virtual box and XP black edition? /q

Is there a recommended source for a safe XP black download or are they all a bit iffy?

I'd like to give it a go on my Linux box - at least to try & manage my other IP cameras, that like Tim's, are all 'hooked' on active x for key feature setup...

Anyone up for some handholding?

Cheers
Jim K

On 24/04/15 16:20, JimK wrote:
/The Natural Philosopher
On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that
I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant
upgrade demands).

Virtual box and XP black edition? /q

Is there a recommended source for a safe XP black download or are they all a bit iffy?

I'd like to give it a go on my Linux box - at least to try & manage my other IP cameras, that like Tim's, are all 'hooked' on active x for key feature setup...

Anyone up for some handholding?

Someone gave me a DVD which worked like clockwork.

I am loathe to post it online tho, despite having at least 3 redundant
XP licenses from second hand hardware..upgraded to Linux...



Cheers
Jim K



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rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 08:08:18 -0700 (PDT), JimK wrote:

I run a Raspberry Pi in a camera housing with its Camera module,

So do I but indoors so the Pi is just ina case and the camera taped
to a window. Well it works... B-) One day

Very high quality images, and so far, very reliable.

Mines thrown a serious wobbly twice in 6+ months. Serious as in the
first time the SD Card became read only, I . Second was similar but I
could reuse the card, just reinstalled the OS/config/scripts etc.

I've studied those and I'm tempted, but stories of instability of the PI
especially in longterm 'always on' applications put me off a bit....

Well both of mine seem pretty reliable, the camera and the one
running OSMC/Kodi media player.

Oddly both are on 19 days uptime and within an hour or two of each
other. I don't remember fiddling with 'em.

And how much are we talking all in?

TBH very similar, if not more, than the cheap "weather proof" IP
cameras but with added time and effort to install/configur/develop
the software, fit into exteranl housing etc

I'm also in the market for reasonably priced IP cameras but they must
be able to FTP a still image every n minutes not just on movement.

--
Cheers
Dave.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope that
I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware, incessant
upgrade demands).

Virtual box and XP black edition?


My Android phone has a neat app for camera viewing via the internet, I
wonder if there is one for Linux. I can select which camera view, out of
4 and theoretically can adjust the cameras from the phone. I've never
tried it, as it requires putting the system admin security codes into
the phone and I'm very loath to do this. The app is EZeye and has worked
perfectly for viewing internationally. It also works for i things.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:43:07 +0100
Tim Watts wrote:

On 24/04/15 11:39, JimK wrote:
I know I've asked before but this time it needs to happen. A Compro
ip camera I have been struggling with since day 1 is now missing
events too many times...

can anyone recommend a reliable ip camera for less than £100?

it can be indoor or outdoor but I expect the fomer
it must have motion detection and send images attach to e-mails,
ideally it shouldn't need windows to set it up and administer it
but if needs must I can resurrect an old windows xp laptop and hope
that I can manage (before it gets choked with trojans, malware,
incessant upgrade demands).

I would prefer a uk source/ supplier but anything considered

Hikvision meets most of your features and price criteria, and it is
possible to set up much of it under firefox, but sadly windows is
needed for the ActiveX parts that defined image detection regions and
similar.

I have not yet found an IP camera in the domestic range that does not
need Windows and I did ask on a WebCam forum...


I have three cameras feeding an old desktop PC loaded with Ubuntu 8.04
and Zoneminder. Recording is triggered by motion, in zones set up by me,
and I believe that it can be configured to send e-mail messages. One
of the cameras is indoor WiFi (IP camera), routed through my network
router, and cost about £65 last year. It has more features than I will
ever need.
http://www.camsecure.co.uk/MiniIndoorIPWebcam.html

Maybe this would help? Zoneminder is of course free, but a donation is
suggested if it works for you.
I found camsecure very helpful.

--
Davey.

in 1387516 20150424 160818 JimK wrote:
/I run a Raspberry Pi in a camera housing with its Camera module, and the
'motion' software. Very high quality images, and so far, very reliable.

Can view it live, and it captures motion events to jpegs and avis. /q

Interesting.

I've studied those and I'm tempted, but stories of instability of the PI especially in longterm 'alw
ays on' applications put me off a bit....

How often does yours fallover?
And how much are we talking all in?

I have a RPi with webcam which hasn't needed attention since last October.
They are more stable and reliable than any desktop or laptop.

/I have a RPi with webcam which hasn't needed attention since last October.
They are more stable and reliable than any desktop or laptop. /q

Alas that's not a universal experience...

Jim K

In message , JimK
writes
/I have a RPi with webcam which hasn't needed attention since last October.
They are more stable and reliable than any desktop or laptop. /q

Alas that's not a universal experience...


Amen to that.

I've got a Pi with a Pi camera on that worked fine for over a year
(albeit on light usage), suddenly stopped working. Tried putting my
spare Pi Cam in, and that doesn't work either. Do I have a dodgy Pi ?

This has been raised on the Pi Forum and comp.sys.raspberry-pi with no
conclusive result.

Adrian
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 00:51:51 -0700 (PDT), JimK wrote:

I have a RPi with webcam which hasn't needed attention since last
October. They are more stable and reliable than any desktop or
laptop.

Alas that's not a universal experience...

They don't like power glitches. Probably down to having a live file
system containing the OS, etc. Most other webcams, routers, APs,
modems have their firmware/config in some form of EPROM that doesn't
get corupted by a power glitch and doesn't object to just being
switched off and not shutdown.

My Pi based webcam is pretty reliable since I moved the rolling 2000
odd still images per day used to make the timelapse movies from the
SD card to a USB stick. I have a feeling that I killed an 8 GB micro
SD card in about 6 weeks just from the number of files
created/deleted. "Killed" as in going into the "self defence, read
only" mode.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 24/04/2015 16:08, JimK wrote:
/I run a Raspberry Pi in a camera housing with its Camera module, and the
'motion' software. Very high quality images, and so far, very reliable.

Can view it live, and it captures motion events to jpegs and avis. /q

Interesting.

I've studied those and I'm tempted, but stories of instability of the PI especially in longterm 'always on' applications put me off a bit....

How often does yours fallover?
And how much are we talking all in?



It falls over when the power goes off. But then, I lose the NAS as well,
so ...

It's never crashed or stopped working. I wrote scripts to kick the
motion daemon back up if it fails. And be sure to run with ramlog to
avoid writing to the SD card. So there's no write output to the SD card
that I can notice at all. Stops the SD breaking. Images and videos are
placed on my NAS.

On 25/04/2015 22:22, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 00:51:51 -0700 (PDT), JimK wrote:

I have a RPi with webcam which hasn't needed attention since last
October. They are more stable and reliable than any desktop or
laptop.

Alas that's not a universal experience...

They don't like power glitches. Probably down to having a live file
system containing the OS, etc. Most other webcams, routers, APs,
modems have their firmware/config in some form of EPROM that doesn't
get corupted by a power glitch and doesn't object to just being
switched off and not shutdown.

My Pi based webcam is pretty reliable since I moved the rolling 2000
odd still images per day used to make the timelapse movies from the
SD card to a USB stick. I have a feeling that I killed an 8 GB micro
SD card in about 6 weeks just from the number of files
created/deleted. "Killed" as in going into the "self defence, read
only" mode.


It wouldn't be too hard to make a raspberry pi UPS with a rechargeable
battery, and GPIO signalling. Been considering this, actually. For
filesystem protection as you say, if nothing else.

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:28:45 +0100, HarpingOn wrote:

It wouldn't be too hard to make a raspberry pi UPS with a rechargeable
battery, and GPIO signalling. Been considering this, actually. For
filesystem protection as you say, if nothing else.

Why bother making when you can
buy:

https://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi...ower-supply-ra
spberry-pi/

I think there are a couple of other designs out there as well.

I suppose at the simplist a battery pack series diode to Pi power
in, PSU series diode to Pi power in and PSU series diode to a
pulled down GPIO pin. Monitor the GPIO pin when it goes low inititate
shutdown.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 27/04/2015 08:40, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:28:45 +0100, HarpingOn wrote:

It wouldn't be too hard to make a raspberry pi UPS with a rechargeable
battery, and GPIO signalling. Been considering this, actually. For
filesystem protection as you say, if nothing else.

Why bother making when you can
buy:

https://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi...ower-supply-ra
spberry-pi/


Why bother? In a d-i-y group?