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I can't get to the inside of the guillotine to insert/tighten bolts or
screws. (The guillotine is like a metal box with the knife down one
side and L-shaped flanges underneath which have the fixing holes.
Trouble is, the flanges both point INwards. Once the 'tine is on the
shelf, the L-flanges with the fixing holes are hidden. I can't get at
them.)


Why not just use countersunk machine screws from inside the drawer?


After tapping a thread in the guillotine fixing holes.


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On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:35:26 +0000, Tim Lamb
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"Dennis@home" writes
On 08/02/2015 18:57, MM wrote:


I can't get to the inside of the guillotine to insert/tighten bolts or
screws. (The guillotine is like a metal box with the knife down one
side and L-shaped flanges underneath which have the fixing holes.
Trouble is, the flanges both point INwards. Once the 'tine is on the
shelf, the L-flanges with the fixing holes are hidden. I can't get at
them.)


Why not just use countersunk machine screws from inside the drawer?


After tapping a thread in the guillotine fixing holes.


See my recent reply to newshound above. The holes in the flange are
elongated and much larger than even M8 bolts. That's the way the
designers designed it for some reason, with very large, oval holes.
(Perhaps intended in situations where this make/model of guillotine
was being installed to replace an existing 'tine from a different
manufacturer and the existing bolt/screw holes were misaligned. With
elongated holes, plus washers, the new machine could be installed and
fixed using the existing holes.)

MM
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:29:29 +0000, MM wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:35:26 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

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"Dennis@home" writes
On 08/02/2015 18:57, MM wrote:


I can't get to the inside of the guillotine to insert/tighten bolts or
screws. (The guillotine is like a metal box with the knife down one
side and L-shaped flanges underneath which have the fixing holes.
Trouble is, the flanges both point INwards. Once the 'tine is on the
shelf, the L-flanges with the fixing holes are hidden. I can't get at
them.)

Why not just use countersunk machine screws from inside the drawer?


After tapping a thread in the guillotine fixing holes.


See my recent reply to newshound above. The holes in the flange are
elongated and much larger than even M8 bolts. That's the way the
designers designed it for some reason, with very large, oval holes.
(Perhaps intended in situations where this make/model of guillotine
was being installed to replace an existing 'tine from a different
manufacturer and the existing bolt/screw holes were misaligned. With
elongated holes, plus washers, the new machine could be installed and
fixed using the existing holes.)

MM


How about a). elongating the holes with a rectangular slot that will hold
the screws with the square bit under the head, if the flange is thick
enough, then, if necessary, file the heads to go through the big hole. Put
the 'tine in place over the screws already through shelf and lift/wiggle it
into place.
or b). drill and tap some new holes.
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 07:55:10 +0000, PeterC
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:29:29 +0000, MM wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 19:35:26 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

In message . com,
"Dennis@home" writes
On 08/02/2015 18:57, MM wrote:


I can't get to the inside of the guillotine to insert/tighten bolts or
screws. (The guillotine is like a metal box with the knife down one
side and L-shaped flanges underneath which have the fixing holes.
Trouble is, the flanges both point INwards. Once the 'tine is on the
shelf, the L-flanges with the fixing holes are hidden. I can't get at
them.)

Why not just use countersunk machine screws from inside the drawer?

After tapping a thread in the guillotine fixing holes.


See my recent reply to newshound above. The holes in the flange are
elongated and much larger than even M8 bolts. That's the way the
designers designed it for some reason, with very large, oval holes.
(Perhaps intended in situations where this make/model of guillotine
was being installed to replace an existing 'tine from a different
manufacturer and the existing bolt/screw holes were misaligned. With
elongated holes, plus washers, the new machine could be installed and
fixed using the existing holes.)

MM


How about a). elongating the holes with a rectangular slot that will hold
the screws with the square bit under the head, if the flange is thick
enough, then, if necessary, file the heads to go through the big hole. Put
the 'tine in place over the screws already through shelf and lift/wiggle it
into place.
or b). drill and tap some new holes.


Also some possibilities there. Thanks.

MM
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