Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html

In article , Adam Funk
writes
Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html

The trade deal with this by having a 20mm holesaw (with centre drill) in
their toolkit :-)

Kind of obvious when you think of it but it was like an epiphany when I
first saw it (2nd year apprentices are generally less impressed, or so I
hear).

I imagine they have a 25mm one too for the reverse situation.

--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

"Adam Funk" wrote in message
...
Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html


Just put the socket sideways, I'm assuming it will be in a workshop or
similar?

On 12 Nov 2014, Adam Funk grunted:

Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

I dunno; but on a related note...
I'm currently wiring up some sound-surround speakers with flush-fitted
cables, and am using these light-switch boxes:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P...ze_3/AP623.JPG

These are the shallow ones that have a single pre-formed oval hole, which
has rounded-off edges to avoid chafing cables and not using a grommet.
However, in the other sides they also have knock-outs for two side-by-side
holes; these by definition won't have smoothed edges and won't fit a
grommet.

I'm curious to know how these are supposed to be used? Just 'carefully'?

--
David

Adam Funk wrote:
Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left& right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html

Not that I found. I built a jig as I had 20 or so to do and used a 4mm
pilot with a stepped hole cutter in the bench drill. This gave a very
good finish and the holes ended up in the right place!

"Phil L" wrote in message
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"Adam Funk" wrote in message
...
Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html


Just put the socket sideways, I'm assuming it will be in a workshop or
similar?


Just fit it like an electrician ie at any ****ing angle but level.

--
Adam

On 12/11/14 20:08, Lobster wrote:
On 12 Nov 2014, Adam Funk grunted:

Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

I dunno; but on a related note...
I'm currently wiring up some sound-surround speakers with flush-fitted
cables, and am using these light-switch boxes:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/P...ze_3/AP623.JPG

These are the shallow ones that have a single pre-formed oval hole, which
has rounded-off edges to avoid chafing cables and not using a grommet.
However, in the other sides they also have knock-outs for two side-by-side
holes; these by definition won't have smoothed edges and won't fit a
grommet.

I'm curious to know how these are supposed to be used? Just 'carefully'?


No - not "carefully".

IIRC a 20mm round grommet will fit the oval holes. If not, take a 25mm
round grommet, cut it and use it to line the edges, trimming to length.

On 12/11/14 20:55, ARW wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message
news

"Adam Funk" wrote in message
...
Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html


Just put the socket sideways, I'm assuming it will be in a workshop or
similar?


Just fit it like an electrician ie at any ****ing angle but level.


And do it up like a kitchen fitter - ie don't bother because you don't
happen to have long enough screws. After all, it doesn't matter if the
FCU is behind an appliance that it's hanging off the wall!

On 2014-11-12, fred wrote:

In article , Adam Funk
writes
Does anyone make a single-gang surface-mount box with 20 mm conduit
knock-outs on the left & right sides (rather than the top or bottom)?
Obviously I don't mean in the middle of each side (where the fixing
screws go), but below the screws, like some of the knock-outs in steel
flush-mount boxes.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP655.html

The trade deal with this by having a 20mm holesaw (with centre drill) in
their toolkit :-)

Kind of obvious when you think of it but it was like an epiphany when I
first saw it (2nd year apprentices are generally less impressed, or so I
hear).

I imagine they have a 25mm one too for the reverse situation.

OK, I could probably do with a holesaw set anyway, although I'll have
to shop carefully --- the last time I bought one, I had to take it
back as I found that the core was too big for my drill chuck.

In article , Adam Funk
writes

OK, I could probably do with a holesaw set anyway, although I'll have
to shop carefully --- the last time I bought one, I had to take it
back as I found that the core was too big for my drill chuck.

I've never found the sets to have exactly what I wanted so have bought
individuals when I need them.

As an aside, have you noticed on Toolstation (& prob others) that you
can find what you need near the top of a page at a higher price than
apparently equivalent others further down.

Very noticeable in your case:

Expensive £14.13:
83315 PUNK Holesaw Arbor Hex 14mm-30mm Each £5.34
92947 PUNK Bi-Metal Holesaw 20mm Each £3.84
27763 PUNK Bi-Metal Holesaw 25mm Each £4.95

Cheap £6.31:
42954 Holesaw Arbor Hex 14 -30mm Each £2.06
28605 M3 Bi Metal Holesaw 20mm Each £2.00
56846 M3 Bi Metal Holesaw 25mm Each £2.25

Cheap still claims to be "Heavy duty, for industrial use". Ok 'punk'
brand claims higher a specified cobalt content but for a few boxes . . .

You'll probably find they drill oversize and leave the hole a bit rough
but the grommets (or conduit fittings) should cover any sins. Plus go
easy on the pressure to avoid the knockouts being disturbed.
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

In message , fred writes
In article , Adam Funk
writes

OK, I could probably do with a holesaw set anyway, although I'll have
to shop carefully --- the last time I bought one, I had to take it
back as I found that the core was too big for my drill chuck.

I've never found the sets to have exactly what I wanted so have bought
individuals when I need them.

As an aside, have you noticed on Toolstation (& prob others) that you
can find what you need near the top of a page at a higher price than
apparently equivalent others further down.

Very noticeable in your case:

Expensive £14.13:
83315 PUNK Holesaw Arbor Hex 14mm-30mm Each £5.34
92947 PUNK Bi-Metal Holesaw 20mm Each £3.84
27763 PUNK Bi-Metal Holesaw 25mm Each £4.95

Cheap £6.31:
42954 Holesaw Arbor Hex 14 -30mm Each £2.06
28605 M3 Bi Metal Holesaw 20mm Each £2.00
56846 M3 Bi Metal Holesaw 25mm Each £2.25


Except the Bosch ones further down the page are more expensive than the
PUNK ones, so don't really support your theory
--
Chris French

In article , Chris French
writes
In message , fred writes

Expensive £14.13:
83315 PUNK Holesaw Arbor Hex 14mm-30mm Each £5.34
92947 PUNK Bi-Metal Holesaw 20mm Each £3.84
27763 PUNK Bi-Metal Holesaw 25mm Each £4.95

Cheap £6.31:
42954 Holesaw Arbor Hex 14 -30mm Each £2.06
28605 M3 Bi Metal Holesaw 20mm Each £2.00
56846 M3 Bi Metal Holesaw 25mm Each £2.25


Except the Bosch ones further down the page are more expensive than the
PUNK ones, so don't really support your theory

The fact that a cheaper alternative is available further down the page
was the point and is accurate.
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .