Johny B Good wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Johny B Good wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

Hmm, most odd. I thought the innards of these things
tended to be the same just badge engineered tese days.

No they are not.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. It's surprising
just how different they can be. However, you do see
badge engineered versions of Zyxel(?) and Netgear
kit re-marketed by the likes of Peak and (spit!) Belkin.

Sure, but they arent all the same device rebadged.

You'd be surprised by what some of the off-brands turn
out to be based on when looking for firmware updates.

No I would not, and we weren't discussing off
brands when Brian made that comment anyway.

However, you do see badge engineered versions
of Zyxel(?) and Netgear kit re-marketed by the
likes of Peak and (spit!) Belkin.

So they can't all be the same device rebadged.

I wasn't claiming any such thing,

Never said you did.

just pointing out that the truth of the matter lies
somewhere in between, as it so often does with such kit.

And I pointed out to Brian that what he said isnt true of
the brands being discussed when he made that comment.

However, you do see badge engineered versions
of Zyxel(?) and Netgear kit re-marketed by the
likes of Peak and (spit!) Belkin.

Sure, but that's not what he said.

True enough, he was opining that _most_ of this kit was a matter
of badge engineering based on just one or two reference designs,

He didn't say anything about one or two reference designs.

an opinion that's just as far off the mark as your claim to the contrary.

Not it is not with the brands being discussed
when we made those comments.

If I had to make do with a badge engineered version, I'd choose
Peak over Belkin every time. The hardware might be the same but
the OEM customer (Belkin) will usually employ someone to write,
in Belkin's case, a ****e version of the firmware so full of security
lapses as to turn a moderately bad piece of kit into a festering
PoS so bad that anyone with a moderate level of knowledge
wouldn't want to touch it with a bargepole.

So even that isnt just badge engineering.

No, that's not just badge engineering
but badge engineering of the worst kind,

It isnt badge engineering at all, JUST the use
of common hardware with their own firmware.

the kind you wouldn't want to
touch, not even with a bargepole.

Separate matter entirely to what was being discussed.