For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as well as the front single glazed window.
So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...
Thanks,
Simon.

On 23/09/14 11:20, sm_jamieson wrote:
For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as well as the front single glazed window.
So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...
Thanks,
Simon.


I have the Ecoair desiccant type DF122FW Simple:

http://www.airconcentre.co.uk/ecoair...%29/1072981096

is compact and OK for one room. I use it for drying on a clothes stand -
point dehumidifier's output at clothes, dry in a few hours.

It is automatic (humidistat) and as the controls are "simple" (ie not
electronic) you can use a plug in timer with it too.

Option for drain hose out through wall or whatever. It does not go
"beep" when the internal tank is full but it does stop and show a red light.

Reasonably quiet on the low fan setting.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:43:47 AM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 23/09/14 11:20, sm_jamieson wrote:

For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as well as the front single glazed window.

So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...

Thanks,

Simon.





I have the Ecoair desiccant type DF122FW Simple:



http://www.airconcentre.co.uk/ecoair...%29/1072981096



is compact and OK for one room. I use it for drying on a clothes stand -

point dehumidifier's output at clothes, dry in a few hours.



It is automatic (humidistat) and as the controls are "simple" (ie not

electronic) you can use a plug in timer with it too.



Option for drain hose out through wall or whatever. It does not go

"beep" when the internal tank is full but it does stop and show a red light.



Reasonably quiet on the low fan setting.

Does the desiccant need to be replaced eventually ?

Does it use a continual process, or does the unit need some time "off" to dry out the desiccant ?

Simon.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 2:31:14 PM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:43:47 AM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 23/09/14 11:20, sm_jamieson wrote:

Does the desiccant need to be replaced eventually ?
Does it use a continual process, or does the unit need some time "off" to dry out the desiccant ?

One side of the desiccant wheel is absorbing damp, the other side is being dried. Its a continuous process. These type machines use about twice the energy of the more popular refrigeration types.


NT

On 23/09/14 14:31, sm_jamieson wrote:

Hi

Does the desiccant need to be replaced eventually ?

No

Does it use a continual process, or does the unit need some time "off" to dry out the desiccant ?

It's continuous.

The only "gotcha" is it is less efficient than a compressor based unit.

But it does work to lower temperatures, so can be handy if you need it
in the shed or garage on occasion.

Simon.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:34:39 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 23/09/14 14:31, sm_jamieson wrote:



Hi



Does the desiccant need to be replaced eventually ?



No



Does it use a continual process, or does the unit need some time "off" to dry out the desiccant ?



It's continuous.



The only "gotcha" is it is less efficient than a compressor based unit.



But it does work to lower temperatures, so can be handy if you need it

in the shed or garage on occasion.



Simon.



We use a compressor type on a boat over the winter and it appears to work fine through all the cold weather. Granted it may not be as efficient but it does keep the cabin dry.

In article ,
fred writes:
We use a compressor type on a boat over the winter and it appears to work fine through all the cold weather. Granted it may not be as efficient but it does keep the cabin dry.

What typically goes wrong is that the evaporator encases itself in a
solid block of ice, at which point the dehumidifier obviously can't
dehumidify anymore. Many have frosting detection, but it often doesn't
work.

Once frosted up, and if still running, it will keep itself frosted up.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:20:55 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as well as the front single glazed window.
So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...
Thanks,
Simon.

Get an electronic humidistat for fit & forget, the mechanical ones can drift a lot.


NT

On 23/09/2014 11:20, sm_jamieson wrote:
For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as well as the front single glazed window.
So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...
Thanks,
Simon.

I bought three off ebay for between £30 and £40 each. All worked fine
(and are still working), all had humidistats and all switched themselves
off when the tank was full.

They are all a bit noisy, some more than others, and it's not possible
to sleep in the same room when they're on.

Try a search on ebay for local sellers - there's usually loads for sale.

Another Dave

--
Change nospam to gmx in e-mail.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:02:36 PM UTC+1, Another Dave wrote:
On 23/09/2014 11:20, sm_jamieson wrote:

For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as well as the front single glazed window.

So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...

Thanks,

Simon.



I bought three off ebay for between �30 and �40 each. All worked fine

(and are still working), all had humidistats and all switched themselves

off when the tank was full.



They are all a bit noisy, some more than others, and it's not possible

to sleep in the same room when they're on.


Ah I guess the desiccant ones would be quieter, although less efficient, which might be what we need. Also, the desiccant ones apparently put out more heat, which would be fine in the colder months. And in the summer we would just open a window !
Simon.

On 23/09/2014 15:40, sm_jamieson wrote:

Ah I guess the desiccant ones would be quieter, although less efficient, which might be what we need. Also, the desiccant ones apparently put out more heat, which would be fine in the colder months. And in the summer we would just open a window !
Simon.


I'd be inclined to switch them off in bedrooms at night and switch them
on again in the morning. Alternatively, if you're trying to dry the
whole house, put it in the hallway or somewhere you can't hear it and
leave it on.

I've no experience of the desiccant type so I don't know if they're
quiet enough to sleep with but their inefficiency can add up to a large
electricity bill (my refrigerator types use 150 Watts each).

Another Dave

--
Change nospam to gmx in e-mail.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:11:33 PM UTC+1, Another Dave wrote:
On 23/09/2014 15:40, sm_jamieson wrote:



Ah I guess the desiccant ones would be quieter, although less efficient, which might be what we need. Also, the desiccant ones apparently put out more heat, which would be fine in the colder months. And in the summer we would just open a window !

Simon.





I'd be inclined to switch them off in bedrooms at night and switch them

on again in the morning. Alternatively, if you're trying to dry the

whole house, put it in the hallway or somewhere you can't hear it and

leave it on.



I've no experience of the desiccant type so I don't know if they're

quiet enough to sleep with but their inefficiency can add up to a large

electricity bill (my refrigerator types use 150 Watts each).



Another Dave



--

Change nospam to gmx in e-mail.

ISTR that the damp air generally migrates to the north side of the house and generally that was my experience, so you might like to keep this in mind when placing it

In article ,
sm_jamieson wrote:

For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now
its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying
more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as
well as the front single glazed window.
So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom
house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on
automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...

I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that
it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.

Jethro (who has replied here) had the same questions as you (and me),
and finally got an EBAC 2650E, and a few months later has said he's more
than happy with it so far. So finally I got one of those too, and it
arrived last week. Amazon - £220.

After a week's playing with it, I can say: it definitely works! :-) Has
removed litres of water from the atmosphere in the house. I'm waiting
for the winter months when we don't open doors and windows so much, to
see what happens then. I have not run it continuously (don't need to).


My only criticism of it would be that the user guide is pretty useless:
basically it says "turn it on and leave it in Auto". It doesn't explain
exactly what the different modes are, or how you might use them; seems
to assume knowledge on the part of the user. There is a "Quiet" mode,
which is indeed quiet (in normal Auto mode there's a quiet rushing sound
-- not very intrusive, I guess); however in Quiet mode it sounds like
it's doing nowt ... so why would I use it?


Read the reviews on Amazon (never be too put off by the negative ones,
which often seem to be written by people who can't read instructions!).


And finally, for a good objective summary, turn, as always, to this
Group's fantastic Wiki --
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Dehumidifier

hth
John

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:45:21 PM UTC+1, Another John wrote:
In article ,

sm_jamieson wrote:



For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now

its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying

more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as

well as the front single glazed window.

So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom

house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on

automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...



I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that

it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.



Jethro (who has replied here) had the same questions as you (and me),

and finally got an EBAC 2650E, and a few months later has said he's more

than happy with it so far. So finally I got one of those too, and it

arrived last week. Amazon - �220.



After a week's playing with it, I can say: it definitely works! :-) Has

removed litres of water from the atmosphere in the house. I'm waiting

for the winter months when we don't open doors and windows so much, to

see what happens then. I have not run it continuously (don't need to).





My only criticism of it would be that the user guide is pretty useless:

basically it says "turn it on and leave it in Auto". It doesn't explain

exactly what the different modes are, or how you might use them; seems

to assume knowledge on the part of the user. There is a "Quiet" mode,

which is indeed quiet (in normal Auto mode there's a quiet rushing sound

-- not very intrusive, I guess); however in Quiet mode it sounds like

it's doing nowt ... so why would I use it?





Read the reviews on Amazon (never be too put off by the negative ones,

which often seem to be written by people who can't read instructions!).


A common reported fault of the EBAC 2650E seems to be the float switch which several people reported as breaking resulting in the unit flooding. Apparently it is ridiculously flimsy.
Any comment on this ?

Simon.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:22:52 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:45:21 PM UTC+1, Another John wrote:

In article ,



sm_jamieson wrote:







For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now



its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying



more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as



well as the front single glazed window.



So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom



house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on



automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ....







I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that



it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.







Jethro (who has replied here) had the same questions as you (and me),



and finally got an EBAC 2650E, and a few months later has said he's more



than happy with it so far. So finally I got one of those too, and it



arrived last week. Amazon - �220.







After a week's playing with it, I can say: it definitely works! :-) Has



removed litres of water from the atmosphere in the house. I'm waiting



for the winter months when we don't open doors and windows so much, to



see what happens then. I have not run it continuously (don't need to).











My only criticism of it would be that the user guide is pretty useless:



basically it says "turn it on and leave it in Auto". It doesn't explain



exactly what the different modes are, or how you might use them; seems



to assume knowledge on the part of the user. There is a "Quiet" mode,



which is indeed quiet (in normal Auto mode there's a quiet rushing sound



-- not very intrusive, I guess); however in Quiet mode it sounds like



it's doing nowt ... so why would I use it?











Read the reviews on Amazon (never be too put off by the negative ones,



which often seem to be written by people who can't read instructions!).





A common reported fault of the EBAC 2650E seems to be the float switch which several people reported as breaking resulting in the unit flooding. Apparently it is ridiculously flimsy.

Any comment on this ?



Simon.

Any comments on the Ecoair ECO20LK D220, see

http://www.4air.co.uk/d20lk-p-996069846.html

or un-snipped:

http://www.4air.co.uk/d20lk-japanese...996069846.html

Simon.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:51:45 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:22:52 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:45:21 PM UTC+1, Another John wrote:



In article ,







sm_jamieson wrote:















For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now







its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying







more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as







well as the front single glazed window.







So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom







house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on







automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...















I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that







it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.















Jethro (who has replied here) had the same questions as you (and me),







and finally got an EBAC 2650E, and a few months later has said he's more







than happy with it so far. So finally I got one of those too, and it







arrived last week. Amazon - �220.















After a week's playing with it, I can say: it definitely works! :-) Has







removed litres of water from the atmosphere in the house. I'm waiting







for the winter months when we don't open doors and windows so much, to







see what happens then. I have not run it continuously (don't need to)..























My only criticism of it would be that the user guide is pretty useless:







basically it says "turn it on and leave it in Auto". It doesn't explain







exactly what the different modes are, or how you might use them; seems







to assume knowledge on the part of the user. There is a "Quiet" mode,







which is indeed quiet (in normal Auto mode there's a quiet rushing sound







-- not very intrusive, I guess); however in Quiet mode it sounds like







it's doing nowt ... so why would I use it?























Read the reviews on Amazon (never be too put off by the negative ones,







which often seem to be written by people who can't read instructions!).











A common reported fault of the EBAC 2650E seems to be the float switch which several people reported as breaking resulting in the unit flooding. Apparently it is ridiculously flimsy.



Any comment on this ?







Simon.



Any comments on the Ecoair ECO20LK D220, see



http://www.4air.co.uk/d20lk-p-996069846.html



or un-snipped:



http://www.4air.co.uk/d20lk-japanese...996069846.html



Simon.

Well that has apparently been discontinued (stock still available) and replace by this:
http://www.ecoair.org/dc202.html

Some reviews say the fan stays on all the time even when then unit switches off an auto mode, which if the case if a stupid design decision. But its very hard to find out if this is true or just user error ...

Reads the manual ...

Oh its a combined dehumidifier and air purifier, and the manual implies that you cannot have the dehumidifier mode without the air purifier being on, and I bet in auto mode the air purifier is always running, thus the fan.
If so, aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh! What is wrong with designers ?

I may send them an email to try to check this out.

I often find a product that is fine but wrecked by a single "feature".

Simon.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 1:26:21 PM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:51:45 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:

On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:22:52 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:



On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:45:21 PM UTC+1, Another John wrote:







In article ,















sm_jamieson wrote:































For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now















its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying















more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as















well as the front single glazed window.















So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom















house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on















automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...































I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that















it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:22:52 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:45:21 PM UTC+1, Another John wrote:

In article ,



sm_jamieson wrote:







For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now



its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying



more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as



well as the front single glazed window.



So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom



house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on



automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ....







I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that



it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.







Jethro (who has replied here) had the same questions as you (and me),



and finally got an EBAC 2650E, and a few months later has said he's more



than happy with it so far. So finally I got one of those too, and it



arrived last week. Amazon - �220.







After a week's playing with it, I can say: it definitely works! :-) Has



removed litres of water from the atmosphere in the house. I'm waiting



for the winter months when we don't open doors and windows so much, to



see what happens then. I have not run it continuously (don't need to).











My only criticism of it would be that the user guide is pretty useless:



basically it says "turn it on and leave it in Auto". It doesn't explain



exactly what the different modes are, or how you might use them; seems



to assume knowledge on the part of the user. There is a "Quiet" mode,



which is indeed quiet (in normal Auto mode there's a quiet rushing sound



-- not very intrusive, I guess); however in Quiet mode it sounds like



it's doing nowt ... so why would I use it?











Read the reviews on Amazon (never be too put off by the negative ones,



which often seem to be written by people who can't read instructions!).





A common reported fault of the EBAC 2650E seems to be the float switch which several people reported as breaking resulting in the unit flooding. Apparently it is ridiculously flimsy.

Any comment on this ?



Simon.

Well it is well publicized that this has a 5 year warranty so maybe the fragile float switch does not matter so much.
And it seems to be a unit that simply does what is supposed to do ...
Simon.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 2:06:18 PM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:22:52 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:45:21 PM UTC+1, Another John wrote:



In article ,







sm_jamieson wrote:















For some reason our house is suffering more from condensation this year, now







its starting to get colder. Probably the influence of the baby and drying







more things on radiators, etc. We had condensation on the double glazing as







well as the front single glazed window.







So, can anyone suggest a good dehumidifier to use in a typical 3 bedroom







house. Fairly compact. Must have a 'stat, and just be able to be left on







automatic mode. I suppose it would bleep when a tank needs emptying ...















I agonised about this for a couple of years -- thought (still do) that







it's one of those things that will come in damn' handy now and again.















Jethro (who has replied here) had the same questions as you (and me),







and finally got an EBAC 2650E, and a few months later has said he's more







than happy with it so far. So finally I got one of those too, and it







arrived last week. Amazon - �220.















After a week's playing with it, I can say: it definitely works! :-) Has







removed litres of water from the atmosphere in the house. I'm waiting







for the winter months when we don't open doors and windows so much, to







see what happens then. I have not run it continuously (don't need to)..























My only criticism of it would be that the user guide is pretty useless:







basically it says "turn it on and leave it in Auto". It doesn't explain







exactly what the different modes are, or how you might use them; seems







to assume knowledge on the part of the user. There is a "Quiet" mode,







which is indeed quiet (in normal Auto mode there's a quiet rushing sound







-- not very intrusive, I guess); however in Quiet mode it sounds like







it's doing nowt ... so why would I use it?























Read the reviews on Amazon (never be too put off by the negative ones,







which often seem to be written by people who can't read instructions!).











A common reported fault of the EBAC 2650E seems to be the float switch which several people reported as breaking resulting in the unit flooding. Apparently it is ridiculously flimsy.



Any comment on this ?







Simon.



Well it is well publicized that this has a 5 year warranty so maybe the fragile float switch does not matter so much.

And it seems to be a unit that simply does what is supposed to do ...

Simon.

Well I ordered an EBAC 2650E - good price from GO electrical.
Simon.

In article ,
sm_jamieson wrote:

A common reported fault of the EBAC 2650E seems to be the float switch which
several people reported as breaking resulting in the unit flooding.
Apparently it is ridiculously flimsy.
Any comment on this ?

(I noticed those reviews too, at Amazon) No comments on this. Not sure
that I can _see_ the float switch actually, since the reservoir is black
plastic.

I bought the machine for occasional use, and so far I've done the odd
"test run" for a few hours: it certainly works, but has never
accumulated more than one litre (i.e. nowhere enough to test any float
switch).

I always treat machines according to how they're made: this one is
elegantly made of plastic, and the fit of the tank into the front is a
little intricate (although sublimely simple). I therefore remove and
replace the tank with ca I sometimes wonder how disgruntled reviewers
on Amazon treat the items that they've bought!

Cheers
John