A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for
the fact that it always swings open fully.

I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the
door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:19:44 AM UTC+1, joiner wrote:
A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for

the fact that it always swings open fully.



I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the

door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect

that the door is out of true at all.



Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?

If you pack out the top hinge the door will tend to swing shut as long as it is not too far open. As a thought experiment, if you imagine a door hung at 45 degrees into the opening - it would certainly swing shut !
Simon.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:31:34 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:19:44 AM UTC+1, joiner wrote:

A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for



the fact that it always swings open fully.







I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the



door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect



that the door is out of true at all.







Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?



If you pack out the top hinge the door will tend to swing shut as long as it is not too far open. As a thought experiment, if you imagine a door hung at 45 degrees into the opening - it would certainly swing shut !

(If the floor was not in the way !)

On 26/08/2014 10:19, joiner wrote:


A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for
the fact that it always swings open fully.

I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the
door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?


Fit rising butt hinges.


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Colin Bignell

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Nightjar \cpb\@ insert my surname here wrote:
On 26/08/2014 10:19, joiner wrote:


A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for
the fact that it always swings open fully.

I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the
door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?


Fit rising butt hinges.

Don't you need to hack a corner off the door too with those? If the door
is a good fit to the frame?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
joiner wrote:
I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the
door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

It must be swing open - unless it's the wind. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:19:44 AM UTC+1, joiner wrote:
A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for
the fact that it always swings open fully. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

It must be that the hinges are not exactly one above the other; probably the wall leans.

I had exactly this problem (except that the door would swing shut with a bang) with a door in a leaning wall. I solved it by replacing the upper hinge with a parliament hinge. You might need to fit such a hinge at the bottom.


Robert

On 26/08/2014 14:44, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar \cpb\@ insert my surname here wrote:
On 26/08/2014 10:19, joiner wrote:


A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for
the fact that it always swings open fully.

I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the
door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?


Fit rising butt hinges.

Don't you need to hack a corner off the door too with those? If the door
is a good fit to the frame?


Depending upon the fit, you may need to remove a bit of from the top, at
the hinge side corner on the closing face, but it should not be
noticeable and you can be sure the door will not swing open of its own
accord.

--
Colin Bignell

joiner wrote:
A new door I have hanged seems to be OK in every respect - except for
the fact that it always swings open fully.

I am thinking if I packed behind one of the hinges it would make the
door hang perfectly vertical with no swinging open. I cannot detect
that the door is out of true at all.

Is this the case? If so - which hinge top or bottom?

Did you renew the frame as well? If so, it's out of plumb and even if you're
hanging the door to an old frame, the same could still apply. How did you
check for plumb and straight BTW?

If not, then see if the hinge pins are in line with the outside edges of the
door and frame by the same amount. If they are not, and the top hinge is
either further in or out than the bottom one, then that will allow gravity
to open or shut the door for you.

As for packing behind the hinges - then ony do that if the door is
hinge-bound (springs back slightly from the fully closed position and cause
by the hinge being housed too deeply allowing leading edges to make contact
with the frame/door stops)


Cash