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Hi all,

Is it legally acceptable to position an electric shower unit over a bath -
I mean, in situations where you don't have room to install a shower
cubicle, but use the bath itself as the base?

It occurred to me that there might be some building regulation prohibiting
this.

Many thanks,

Al
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Hi all,

Is it legally acceptable to position an electric shower unit over a bath -
I mean, in situations where you don't have room to install a shower
cubicle, but use the bath itself as the base?

It occurred to me that there might be some building regulation prohibiting
this.

Many thanks,

Al


None that I am aware of, many including ourselves, have a shower over
the bath - but the electrical regs need to be very carefully followed
to the letter.

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Hi all,

Is it legally acceptable to position an electric shower unit over a bath -
I mean, in situations where you don't have room to install a shower
cubicle, but use the bath itself as the base?

It occurred to me that there might be some building regulation prohibiting
this.



I would have thought that the bath becomes shower tray, so no different than
putting a shower over a shower tray.

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Make sure the heater unit cannot be directly sprayed by the shower head, this usually means that the shower head and heater unit need to be mounted on the same wall. The heater unit can withstand splashing but not spray under pressure.

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Make sure the heater unit cannot be directly sprayed by the shower
head, this usually means that the shower head and heater unit need to
be mounted on the same wall. The heater unit can withstand splashing
but not spray under pressure.

Richard


Thanks to all for the helpful input on this. I must say, I had never heard
of a building reg prohibiting it, although it occurred to me that it'd the
sort of thing they might prohibit. One slight complication is that the wall
I want to fix the heater to is only studwork, so a 'brute' could probably
wrench it from the wall. That's why I thought building regs might prohibit
it. I guess I could insert an extra studwork member in the wall so that
there's some timber to screw into, but it's all extra work - and I don;t
have any brutes in the house!

Al


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Tricky Dicky wrote:
Make sure the heater unit cannot be directly sprayed by the shower head,
this usually means that the shower head and heater unit need to be mounted
on the same wall. The heater unit can withstand splashing but not spray
under pressure.


How does that work then, when a large number of the units sold have a
hand-held shower head that I can, as a user of the shower, point directly at
the heater unit?

Though it's not like any electric shower has enough pressure to get very
far...

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Tricky Dicky wrote:
Make sure the heater unit cannot be directly sprayed by the shower head,
this usually means that the shower head and heater unit need to be mounted
on the same wall. The heater unit can withstand splashing but not spray
under pressure.


How does that work then, when a large number of the units sold have a
hand-held shower head that I can, as a user of the shower, point directly at
the heater unit?

Though it's not like any electric shower has enough pressure to get very
far...

Theo


If mounted on the same wall, then it is unlikely that the heater unit
would accidently be sprayed by the head. Yes, you can take the head out
of the bracket and deliberately spray the heater - but the point is you
would need to be quite stupid to do that.

Ours has more than enough pressure.

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On 12/08/2014 11:41, AL_n wrote:
Hi all,

Is it legally acceptable to position an electric shower unit over a bath -
I mean, in situations where you don't have room to install a shower
cubicle, but use the bath itself as the base?


Yes of course...

It occurred to me that there might be some building regulation prohibiting
this.


Why? Showers are designed to be installed in zone 0.


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On 12/08/2014 14:38, Tricky Dicky wrote:

Make sure the heater unit cannot be directly sprayed by the shower
head, this usually means that the shower head and heater unit need to
be mounted on the same wall. The heater unit can withstand splashing
but not spray under pressure.


The shower head is usually demountable, so this is not possible. The
shower unit will be designed to withstand direct jets of water.


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On 12/08/2014 18:09, AL_n wrote:
Tricky Dicky wrote in
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Make sure the heater unit cannot be directly sprayed by the shower
head, this usually means that the shower head and heater unit need to
be mounted on the same wall. The heater unit can withstand splashing
but not spray under pressure.

Richard


Thanks to all for the helpful input on this. I must say, I had never heard
of a building reg prohibiting it, although it occurred to me that it'd the
sort of thing they might prohibit. One slight complication is that the wall
I want to fix the heater to is only studwork, so a 'brute' could probably
wrench it from the wall. That's why I thought building regs might prohibit
it. I guess I could insert an extra studwork member in the wall so that
there's some timber to screw into, but it's all extra work - and I don;t
have any brutes in the house!


Again, nothing wrong with mounting on a stud wall so long as its secure.


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When I installed a Mira electrical shower at our last house the destructions did specify that it would withstand indirect spray but not to position the heater unit where it would come under direct spray.

Mounting on a stud wall is OK just ensure it is fixed securely, it is also handy for concealing wiring and plumbing.

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On 12/08/2014 11:41, AL_n wrote:
Hi all,

Is it legally acceptable to position an electric shower unit over a
bath -
I mean, in situations where you don't have room to install a shower
cubicle, but use the bath itself as the base?


Yes of course...

It occurred to me that there might be some building regulation
prohibiting
this.


Why? Showers are designed to be installed in zone 0.



I think you mean zone 1;-) In fact the building regs prohibit the head of an
electric shower from entering zone 0 due to the possiblity of back
siphoning of dirty water - that why the hose usually passes through a loop
on the riser when fitted over a bath.

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