This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?

dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim

On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim


Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I
read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what
I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.
GIYF

On Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:22:51 UTC+1, Bob H wrote:
On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote:

dave wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback

wrote:



This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to

the rear window instead of windscreen?

link would be nice



http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036



No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be

trickier.



Tim





Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I

read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what

I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.

GIYF

So what do you mean by that.....
I was quite impressed with the one that caught the metor in russia .

In message

rnal-september.org, Tim+ writes
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

My DashCam is fed from the permanently powered car socket. I like to
think it will record the frontal impact when parked in the Tesco car
park when it happens. I'd have had to have two side-facing cameras to
see who scraped their bumpers down the two sides.

My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the
camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It
has a useless ring of IR lights. I wonder if the IR on the Lidl one is
of any practical value.
To achieve the spec, mine seems to delve into digital trickery. They're
on Ebay still for £15 to £18, and I've been very happy with it.


--
Bill

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote:


This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim


Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I
read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what
I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.
GIYF

How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview
cams as standard?

whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:22:51 UTC+1, Bob H wrote:
On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote:

dave wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback

wrote:



This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to

the rear window instead of windscreen?

link would be nice



http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036



No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be

trickier.



Tim





Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I

read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what

I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.

GIYF

So what do you mean by that.....
I was quite impressed with the one that caught the metor in russia .

Quality is very variable. Before buying one I spent some time looking
into the subject he http://www.techmoan.com/

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On 24/07/2014 15:22, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote:


This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim


Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I
read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what
I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.
GIYF

How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview
cams as standard?


Many already fit video cameras, although mostly for the car's computer
(e.g. to detect pedestrians) or to give external views when parking. It
only needs a slight change for them to add recording to the in-car video
systems.

--
Colin Bignell

On 24/07/14 15:35, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:22:02 +0100, Peter Johnson wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote:


This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted
to the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?
action=showDetail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed
might be trickier.

Tim


Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I
read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what
I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.
GIYF

How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview
cams as standard?

Just as soon as they can work out 20 different standards ....


And they will all have to be wired in with the CANBUS so they can talk
to your brakes. And cost 10 times what they are worth. And leave a
massive ungainly hole if removed and replaced by a generic device...

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?

£40. How much better is it, I wonder than my Chinese Ebay one? I paid
£10 including postage, here is the same one for £8.62.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-Full-H...em2 a3e4e9d95

I am very happy with it for daylight use, in the dark, in spite of its
IR LEDs, it is pretty useless, but I expect the Lidl one is equally
bad.

With mine, and I expect with the Lidl one too, you could mount it on
the back window and feed the composite video from the jack socket to a
little monitor up front, so you have a reversing camera, and the thing
still records to its SD card.



--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Broadback wrote:
This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?

No, but it is wildly overpriced. From Amazon this would be £15 IME.
Remeber that you need to buy a 32G sd card to go with it. They also
vibrate loose in some settings.

Peter Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob wrote:


This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim


Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I
read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what
I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.
GIYF

How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview
cams as standard?

Already mandated in some counties for SUVs.

Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?

£40. How much better is it, I wonder than my Chinese Ebay one? I paid
£10 including postage, here is the same one for £8.62.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-Full-H...em2 a3e4e9d95

I am very happy with it for daylight use, in the dark, in spite of its
IR LEDs, it is pretty useless, but I expect the Lidl one is equally
bad.

With mine, and I expect with the Lidl one too, you could mount it on
the back window and feed the composite video from the jack socket to a
little monitor up front, so you have a reversing camera, and the thing
still records to its SD card.




Mine is good in the dark when the car headlamps are on.

On 24/07/2014 15:30, Mike Barnes wrote:

Quality is very variable. Before buying one I spent some time looking
into the subject he http://www.techmoan.com/


+1

Another Dave
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In article ,
Capitol wrote:
Broadback wrote:
This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?

No, but it is wildly overpriced. From Amazon this would be £15 IME.
Remeber that you need to buy a 32G sd card to go with it. They also
vibrate loose in some settings.

Very unusual for Lidl. Most of their special offer things are about as
cheap as you'll get them anywhere for the same quality. Perhaps they're
learning from Tesco.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 24/07/2014 16:09, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/07/14 15:35, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:22:02 +0100, Peter Johnson wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote:


This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted
to the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?
action=showDetail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed
might be trickier.

Tim


Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I
read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what
I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.
GIYF

How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview
cams as standard?

Just as soon as they can work out 20 different standards ....


And they will all have to be wired in with the CANBUS so they can talk
to your brakes. And cost 10 times what they are worth. And leave a
massive ungainly hole if removed and replaced by a generic device...

If was permanently fitted to the car, I suspect some people would insist
on there being a large "Immediate Erase" button on the dashboard.

Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim

Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched

F Murtz wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim

Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched

If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear
facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly
is.

Tim

Bill wrote:

My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the
camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It
has a useless ring of IR lights.

Useless, or worse than useless? (i.e. does the ir reflect back off the
windscreen and cause glare into the camera?)

On 24/07/2014 13:49, Bill wrote:

8


My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the
camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It
has a useless ring of IR lights. I wonder if the IR on the Lidl one is
of any practical value.

No, the IR wont go through the screen.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:04:31 +0100, Dennis@home wrote:

My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the
camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It
has a useless ring of IR lights. I wonder if the IR on the Lidl one is
of any practical value.

No, the IR wont go through the screen.

Is it a polarised screen?

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:20:58 +0100, Tim+
wrote:

F Murtz wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim

Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched

If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear
facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly
is.

Tim


I like my camera to run 24/7. Accidents do happen to parked cars, so I
am glad the socket is not switched.

It would be nice if the one on the boot was switched, as I have a 240v
inverter (actually a modified UPS). The drain on the car battery would
significant if I should accidently leave it on.

--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On 24/07/2014 18:20, Tim+ wrote:
F wrote:


Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched

If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear
facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly
is.


+1

I mainly use the one in my Volvo V70 to power an electric cool box - but
that's got voltage sensing, and turns itself off when the engine's not
running.

--
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Roger
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checked.

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dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not

There might conceivably be a problem getting angle right because
windscreens have a lot more slope on them than back windows.

although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier.

In message , Andy
Burns writes
Bill wrote:

My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the
camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It
has a useless ring of IR lights.

Useless, or worse than useless? (i.e. does the ir reflect back off the
windscreen and cause glare into the camera?)

I don't know because I tried it when new outside the car and it was
hopeless. The IPCams I have in the house just show glare when placed
facing a window.
It is much better than nothing when the headlights are on, but think it
would be useless looking backwards at night.
I would hope the Lidl instructions would be better than these Chinese
ones.

The one I have looks the same as the one someone else here found on ebay
for £8.48, but mine came from what I think is a local Chinese importer
(as opposed to a local transhipment facilitator) rather than direct from
Shenzen. So it took a day rather than 6 weeks to arrive.
--
Bill

On 24/07/2014 15:30, Mike Barnes wrote:
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:22:51 UTC+1, Bob H wrote:
On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote:

dave wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback

wrote:



This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be
fitted to

the rear window instead of windscreen?

link would be nice



http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036



No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed
might be

trickier.



Tim





Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I

read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what

I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams.

GIYF

So what do you mean by that.....
I was quite impressed with the one that caught the metor in russia .

Quality is very variable. Before buying one I spent some time looking
into the subject he http://www.techmoan.com/


Yes thats the link I used to read up and watch videos on the different
ones and I have now gone for the mobius wide angle lense dashcam

Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:20:58 +0100, Tim+
wrote:

F Murtz wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim

Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched

If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear
facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly
is.

Tim


I like my camera to run 24/7. Accidents do happen to parked cars, so I
am glad the socket is not switched.

If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in
some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when
full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want,
that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when
anything happened

It would be nice if the one on the boot was switched, as I have a 240v
inverter (actually a modified UPS). The drain on the car battery would
significant if I should accidently leave it on.

F Murtz wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:20:58 +0100, Tim+
wrote:

F Murtz wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote:

This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen?
link would be nice

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036

No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be
trickier.

Tim

Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched

If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear
facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly
is.

Tim


I like my camera to run 24/7. Accidents do happen to parked cars, so I
am glad the socket is not switched.

If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in
some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when
full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want,
that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when
anything happened

AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote:

8

If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in
some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when
full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want,
that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when
anything happened

AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor.


The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered.

On Thursday, 24 July 2014 11:39:38 UTC+1, dave wrote:

link would be nice

This IS d-i-y, you know!

On Thursday, 24 July 2014 15:22:02 UTC+1, Peter Johnson wrote:

How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview
cams as standard?

The Chinese plod paid a visit to Microsoft's child labour resources recently, so it could be as soon as the next NSA special.

On Monday, 28 July 2014 20:11:42 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote:
On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote:



8



If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in

some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when

full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want,

that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when

anything happened



AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor.

The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered.

That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ?

On 29/07/2014 17:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 28 July 2014 20:11:42 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote:
On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote:



8



If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in

some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when

full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want,

that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when

anything happened



AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor.

The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered.

That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ?



If you don't record everything how do you get pre trigger footage?

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered.

That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings
happening ?


Not much point starting recording after the crash?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 29/07/2014 17:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 28 July 2014 20:11:42 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote:
On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote:



8



If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in

some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when

full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want,

that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when

anything happened



AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor.

The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered.

That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ?


Because if you record continuously on a loop, then when the recording
stops, you have the previous n seconds already on the chip. You don't
need to decide when the incident is about to happen, you just stop the
recorder shortly after it happens, and you have evidence about the lead
up to it.

That's how all the Russian screencam videos on Youtube are generated.
There is no user input needed until after the event.

My Zoom H2 sound recorder will doe something similar with sound. I can
set up a 30 second pre-record rolling buffer, which is finally committed
to chip when I press the record button.

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Tciao for Now!

John.