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OT Lidle's offer of a windscreen camera
This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to
the rear window instead of windscreen? |
OT Lidle's offer of a windscreen camera
dave wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim |
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On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF |
OT Lidle's offer of a windscreen camera
On Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:22:51 UTC+1, Bob H wrote:
On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF So what do you mean by that..... I was quite impressed with the one that caught the metor in russia . |
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rnal-september.org, Tim+ writes dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. My DashCam is fed from the permanently powered car socket. I like to think it will record the frontal impact when parked in the Tesco car park when it happens. I'd have had to have two side-facing cameras to see who scraped their bumpers down the two sides. My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It has a useless ring of IR lights. I wonder if the IR on the Lidl one is of any practical value. To achieve the spec, mine seems to delve into digital trickery. They're on Ebay still for £15 to £18, and I've been very happy with it. -- Bill |
OT Lidle's offer of a windscreen camera
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote:
This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview cams as standard? |
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:22:51 UTC+1, Bob H wrote: On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF So what do you mean by that..... I was quite impressed with the one that caught the metor in russia . Quality is very variable. Before buying one I spent some time looking into the subject he http://www.techmoan.com/ -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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On 24/07/2014 15:22, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview cams as standard? Many already fit video cameras, although mostly for the car's computer (e.g. to detect pedestrians) or to give external views when parking. It only needs a slight change for them to add recording to the in-car video systems. -- Colin Bignell |
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On 24/07/14 15:35, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:22:02 +0100, Peter Johnson wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm? action=showDetail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview cams as standard? Just as soon as they can work out 20 different standards .... And they will all have to be wired in with the CANBUS so they can talk to your brakes. And cost 10 times what they are worth. And leave a massive ungainly hole if removed and replaced by a generic device... |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback
wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? £40. How much better is it, I wonder than my Chinese Ebay one? I paid £10 including postage, here is the same one for £8.62. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-Full-H...em2 a3e4e9d95 I am very happy with it for daylight use, in the dark, in spite of its IR LEDs, it is pretty useless, but I expect the Lidl one is equally bad. With mine, and I expect with the Lidl one too, you could mount it on the back window and feed the composite video from the jack socket to a little monitor up front, so you have a reversing camera, and the thing still records to its SD card. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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Broadback wrote:
This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? No, but it is wildly overpriced. From Amazon this would be £15 IME. Remeber that you need to buy a 32G sd card to go with it. They also vibrate loose in some settings. |
OT Lidle's offer of a windscreen camera
Peter Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview cams as standard? Already mandated in some counties for SUVs. |
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Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? £40. How much better is it, I wonder than my Chinese Ebay one? I paid £10 including postage, here is the same one for £8.62. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-5-Full-H...em2 a3e4e9d95 I am very happy with it for daylight use, in the dark, in spite of its IR LEDs, it is pretty useless, but I expect the Lidl one is equally bad. With mine, and I expect with the Lidl one too, you could mount it on the back window and feed the composite video from the jack socket to a little monitor up front, so you have a reversing camera, and the thing still records to its SD card. Mine is good in the dark when the car headlamps are on. |
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On 24/07/2014 15:30, Mike Barnes wrote:
Quality is very variable. Before buying one I spent some time looking into the subject he http://www.techmoan.com/ +1 Another Dave -- Change nospam to gmx in e-mail. |
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Capitol wrote: Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? No, but it is wildly overpriced. From Amazon this would be £15 IME. Remeber that you need to buy a 32G sd card to go with it. They also vibrate loose in some settings. Very unusual for Lidl. Most of their special offer things are about as cheap as you'll get them anywhere for the same quality. Perhaps they're learning from Tesco. -- *How about "never"? Is "never" good for you? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 24/07/2014 16:09, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/07/14 15:35, Jethro_uk wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:22:02 +0100, Peter Johnson wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:22:51 +0100, Bob H wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm? action=showDetail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview cams as standard? Just as soon as they can work out 20 different standards .... And they will all have to be wired in with the CANBUS so they can talk to your brakes. And cost 10 times what they are worth. And leave a massive ungainly hole if removed and replaced by a generic device... If was permanently fitted to the car, I suspect some people would insist on there being a large "Immediate Erase" button on the dashboard. |
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Tim+ wrote:
dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched |
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F Murtz wrote:
Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly is. Tim |
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Bill wrote:
My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It has a useless ring of IR lights. Useless, or worse than useless? (i.e. does the ir reflect back off the windscreen and cause glare into the camera?) |
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On 24/07/2014 13:49, Bill wrote:
8 My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It has a useless ring of IR lights. I wonder if the IR on the Lidl one is of any practical value. No, the IR wont go through the screen. |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:04:31 +0100, Dennis@home wrote:
My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It has a useless ring of IR lights. I wonder if the IR on the Lidl one is of any practical value. No, the IR wont go through the screen. Is it a polarised screen? |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:20:58 +0100, Tim+
wrote: F Murtz wrote: Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly is. Tim I like my camera to run 24/7. Accidents do happen to parked cars, so I am glad the socket is not switched. It would be nice if the one on the boot was switched, as I have a 240v inverter (actually a modified UPS). The drain on the car battery would significant if I should accidently leave it on. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On 24/07/2014 18:20, Tim+ wrote:
F wrote: Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly is. +1 I mainly use the one in my Volvo V70 to power an electric cool box - but that's got voltage sensing, and turns itself off when the engine's not running. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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"Tim+" wrote in message ... dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not There might conceivably be a problem getting angle right because windscreens have a lot more slope on them than back windows. although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. |
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Burns writes Bill wrote: My little Eken camera is good because the screen folds up into the camera, so it's small and doesn't intrude much into any sight lines. It has a useless ring of IR lights. Useless, or worse than useless? (i.e. does the ir reflect back off the windscreen and cause glare into the camera?) I don't know because I tried it when new outside the car and it was hopeless. The IPCams I have in the house just show glare when placed facing a window. It is much better than nothing when the headlights are on, but think it would be useless looking backwards at night. I would hope the Lidl instructions would be better than these Chinese ones. The one I have looks the same as the one someone else here found on ebay for £8.48, but mine came from what I think is a local Chinese importer (as opposed to a local transhipment facilitator) rather than direct from Shenzen. So it took a day rather than 6 weeks to arrive. -- Bill |
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On 24/07/2014 15:30, Mike Barnes wrote:
whisky-dave wrote: On Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:22:51 UTC+1, Bob H wrote: On 24/07/2014 12:07, Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Like most of other things, there good ones and poor ones, and what I read and seen I would not be so keen to buy that one. I don't mean what I have read about the lidl dashcam, I mean other dashcams. GIYF So what do you mean by that..... I was quite impressed with the one that caught the metor in russia . Quality is very variable. Before buying one I spent some time looking into the subject he http://www.techmoan.com/ Yes thats the link I used to read up and watch videos on the different ones and I have now gone for the mobius wide angle lense dashcam |
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Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:20:58 +0100, Tim+ wrote: F Murtz wrote: Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly is. Tim I like my camera to run 24/7. Accidents do happen to parked cars, so I am glad the socket is not switched. If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want, that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when anything happened It would be nice if the one on the boot was switched, as I have a 240v inverter (actually a modified UPS). The drain on the car battery would significant if I should accidently leave it on. |
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F Murtz wrote:
Graham. wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:20:58 +0100, Tim+ wrote: F Murtz wrote: Tim+ wrote: dave wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:42:31 +0100, Broadback wrote: This looks great, is there any reason why it cannot easily be fitted to the rear window instead of windscreen? link would be nice http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=15036 No reason why not although getting an ignition switched power feed might be trickier. Tim Most cig lighter sockets are ignition switched If your car has a socket in the boot (one you'd probably use for a rear facing camera), you may well find that it's always live. Mine certainly is. Tim I like my camera to run 24/7. Accidents do happen to parked cars, so I am glad the socket is not switched. If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want, that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when anything happened AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote:
8 If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want, that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when anything happened AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor. The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered. |
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On Thursday, 24 July 2014 11:39:38 UTC+1, dave wrote:
link would be nice This IS d-i-y, you know! |
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On Thursday, 24 July 2014 15:22:02 UTC+1, Peter Johnson wrote:
How long will it be before manufacturers start fitting dash/rearview cams as standard? The Chinese plod paid a visit to Microsoft's child labour resources recently, so it could be as soon as the next NSA special. |
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On Monday, 28 July 2014 20:11:42 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote:
On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote: 8 If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want, that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when anything happened AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor. The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered. That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ? |
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On 29/07/2014 17:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 28 July 2014 20:11:42 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote: On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote: 8 If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want, that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when anything happened AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor. The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered. That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ? If you don't record everything how do you get pre trigger footage? |
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whisky-dave wrote: The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered. That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ? Not much point starting recording after the crash? -- *The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol content* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 29/07/2014 17:03, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 28 July 2014 20:11:42 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote: On 28/07/2014 08:34, Mike Barnes wrote: 8 If they run 24/7, depending on the size of the card (which is limited in some cases)You will probably have some problems as they write over when full and when you get to stop camera you may have lost the bit you want, that is apart from viewing in real time the whole thing,not knowing when anything happened AFAIK they usually record only when triggered by the motion sensor. The good ones record all the time and save bits when triggered. That doesn;t make much sense why record everything even when nothings happening ? Because if you record continuously on a loop, then when the recording stops, you have the previous n seconds already on the chip. You don't need to decide when the incident is about to happen, you just stop the recorder shortly after it happens, and you have evidence about the lead up to it. That's how all the Russian screencam videos on Youtube are generated. There is no user input needed until after the event. My Zoom H2 sound recorder will doe something similar with sound. I can set up a 30 second pre-record rolling buffer, which is finally committed to chip when I press the record button. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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