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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Install/replace cd and/or hd on a computer.

Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...

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Can that be done?

Yes, there's a utility to do it on the Norton website.

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/uk/...rProfile_en_us

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.


Teach them how to wire a 13A plug - I have relatives over thirty years of
age who have never seen the inside of a plug and wouldn't know where to
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don't you just stop paying for it?

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Can that be done?


don't you just stop paying for it?


Even if you use the uninstall option in Windows, it leaves a lot of
stuff behind.

Not paying the subscription just stops it working and tells it to start
nagging you to buy the latest version.

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Can that be done?


don't you just stop paying for it?


Even if you use the uninstall option in Windows, it leaves a lot of
stuff behind.

Not paying the subscription just stops it working and tells it to start
nagging you to buy the latest version.

Sorry - don't get that at all. Are you saying that someone, somewhere
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Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...



Can that be done?

don't you just stop paying for it?


Even if you use the uninstall option in Windows, it leaves a lot of
stuff behind.

Not paying the subscription just stops it working and tells it to start
nagging you to buy the latest version.

Sorry - don't get that at all. Are you saying that someone, somewhere
actually *started* paying for it?

Looks embarrassed Back in about 1996, when I built my first Windows 95
based PC, I bought a full copy of NU for Windows, which included the
antivirus as a special offer.

I got over it by 1998, when I started using FAT32 hard drives and NU
couldn't work on them.

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.
Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.


for 'patching a leaking pipe' do it outside, with a hosepipe feeding two lengths of scrap copper pipe; the scout that fixes theirs first wins a small prize and gets less wet

'thawing frozen pipes' use the same kit, but freeze the pipe with pipe freezer or fill them with water and put them in the freezer before taking them outside and connecting them to the hosepipe. First to thaw the pipe will start squirting and then they have to patch it.

do you or someone you know have a 'practice wiring board' with a small CU and couple of sockets etc on it to do the circuit breaker reset? At a safe distance or behind a clear plastic shield send some current through thin fuse wire from a power supply that will stand a dead short until the fuse clears, so they can see the fuse vaporise and discuss the purpose of a fuse, how bad connections can overheat and cause a fire, etc

for home security survey the police often do these, maybe a police officer could come and show them how to do it. you could do a quiz about what's most likely to be stolen and from where (see if they guess car keys from the hall table through the letterbox)

for most of the 'major tasks' unless they can do them at home then you probably need a scout hall refurbishment project. Does assembling Argos flat-pack count?

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On Sunday, July 20, 2014 6:12:00 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:


I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.
Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.


for 'patching a leaking pipe' do it outside, with a hosepipe feeding two lengths of scrap copper pipe; the scout that fixes theirs first wins a small prize and gets less wet


'thawing frozen pipes'


easiest diy task ever... do nothing.

use the same kit, but freeze the pipe with pipe freezer or fill them with water and put them in the freezer before taking them outside and connecting them to the hosepipe. First to thaw the pipe will start squirting and then they have to patch it.
do you or someone you know have a 'practice wiring board' with a small CU and couple of sockets etc on it to do the circuit breaker reset? At a safe distance or behind a clear plastic shield send some current through thin fuse wire from a power supply that will stand a dead short until the fuse clears, so they can see the fuse vaporise and discuss the purpose of a fuse, how bad connections can overheat and cause a fire, etc


Mains is good for that, or was until MCBs became common. A 12v SLA is better for kids. If no safety screen just use an old 1.25" glass fuse.

for home security survey the police often do these, maybe a police officer could come and show them how to do it. you could do a quiz about what's most likely to be stolen and from where (see if they guess car keys from the hall table through the letterbox)


another good one

for most of the 'major tasks' unless they can do them at home then you probably need a scout hall refurbishment project. Does assembling Argos flat-pack count?
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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However
I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting
so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Install/replace cd and/or hd on a computer.

Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...


Oil and sparkplug change on a car.

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.


Upgrade to a new phone, shifting all the contacts etc to the new phone.

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Can that be done?

I did it once, took over 2hrs using regedit, still not sure if I got it
all but it stopped it.
Someone told me it it easier now that they seemed to have been forced to
make an undelete that works.
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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10


So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However
I have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group
meeting so that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.

How about a toilet cistern. You have a ball valve and a siphon.

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I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
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Learn to use a conduit bender to make a funky book/DVD shelf

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/279223245618663229/

log rack

http://www.backyardcity.com/Images/HYC/LR44.jpg

various using steel pipe (scaff tube offcuts?)

http://www.homedit.com/unusual-furni...d-steel-pipes/

sell them on ebay or etsy to people in Hoxton for hundreds of pounds to raise funds for scouts.

install a wired phone or network extension socket for the skybox or smart TV

install a solar powered security light

install a wireless doorbell ... sorry

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Can that be done?

Yes, there's a utility to do it on the Norton website.

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/uk/...rProfile_en_us


I wonder how much Norton related rubble it leaves behind?

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.


Teach them how to wire a 13A plug - I have relatives over thirty years of
age who have never seen the inside of a plug and wouldn't know where to
begin


These days that has a certain product liability implications if they get
the colours badly wrong it could even be fatal! That is why almost
everything comes with moulded on plugs in this highly litigious era.

Teaching them about fuses and safe loads on extension sockets would be
good. An astonishing number of adults will happily plug 4x 3kW kettles
into a 4 way mains extension socket (and with the cable rolled up).

I found a badly wired (from original build) lamp socket over the weekend
in someone's house after being asked to pop in and change a light bulb.
It was an old brass one. Wired correctly but with live actually hanging
on by a thread. Known good lamp wouldn't light. The lamp I removed had
curious dints in the solder on its base.

I isolated it but the thing would not come apart so I took it down from
the ceiling rose. When I got it down the top of the brass fitting was
annealed copper coloured and had obviously been running red hot - very
scary. 150W incandescent bulb in it. Sheds only stock the plastic ones
today 100W max rating and guess what the ancient lamp shade won't fit on
it. I have plenty of brass ones at home 100 miles away

They presently have a 20W CFL and no shade which was the best I could do
quickly with the parts available locally.

For the electronics one I would offer a few simple circuits using one or
two transistors or the almost indestructible 555 timer. Its CMOS cousin
is a little more fragile but better for long time constants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/555_timer_IC

There is a cute discrete component multivibrator that lends itself to
making a cool looking retro robot with resistors for arms and legs,
capacitor body and LED eyes that blink alternately. It should amuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivibrator

Try 10uF and 100k as starting values for the time constant and 1k load
resistor in series with the LEDs should run OK on anything 5v.

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Install/replace cd and/or hd on a computer.

Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...


Bypassing Internet filters - every 14 year old has worked out that one.

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Learn to use a conduit bender to make a funky book/DVD shelf

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/279223245618663229/

log rack

http://www.backyardcity.com/Images/HYC/LR44.jpg

various using steel pipe (scaff tube offcuts?)

http://www.homedit.com/unusual-furni...d-steel-pipes/


****ing ugly. Makes more sense to teach them
how to weld and do that stuff out of RHS instead.

sell them on ebay or etsy to people in Hoxton for hundreds of pounds to
raise funds for scouts.


install a wired phone or network extension socket for the skybox or smart
TV


install a solar powered security light


install a wireless doorbell ... sorry



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Oil and sparkplug change on a car.

Letting other people's kids go hands-on[1] with used engine oil strikes
me as seriously bold and courageous for 2014.

Possibly putting on a spare wheel and inflating it to the right
pressure - assuming there's additional adult supervision to stop daft
buggers kigging the jack out, bouncing on the wings etc?


[1] or hands-in, on-faces etc
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On 20/07/2014 22:46, John Williamson wrote:
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Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...

Can that be done?

don't you just stop paying for it?

Even if you use the uninstall option in Windows, it leaves a lot of
stuff behind.

Not paying the subscription just stops it working and tells it to start
nagging you to buy the latest version.

Sorry - don't get that at all. Are you saying that someone, somewhere
actually *started* paying for it?

Looks embarrassed Back in about 1996, when I built my first Windows 95
based PC, I bought a full copy of NU for Windows, which included the
antivirus as a special offer.

I got over it by 1998, when I started using FAT32 hard drives and NU
couldn't work on them.


The original Norton Utilities back in the good old DOS days were small
elegant and actually quiet useful. They could allow you to do things
that looked just like magic to an onlooker. It evolved into massive
ineffective bloated nagware with the arrival of Windows.

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On Sunday, 20 July 2014 18:12:00 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10 or https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10 So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so that other members of the group can obtain this badge. Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the water" bit. Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome. I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a worthwhile badge. -- Adam


How about putting up a shelf or cutain pole.
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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****.
However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group
meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock
that needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an
airlock in the water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Install/replace cd and/or hd on a computer.

Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...


Oil and sparkplug change on a car.


Carburettor setup and distributor gap adjustments? That'll fox 'em.

Or: How to change channel and volume on a TV set when the remote
control dies. Hint: "You need to get up off the sofa......."

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Upgrade to a new phone, shifting all the contacts etc to the new phone.



Kids can do that in their sleep. Most of them get a new phone every
year.


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The original Norton Utilities back in the good old DOS days were small
elegant and actually quiet useful. They could allow you to do things
that looked just like magic to an onlooker. It evolved into massive
ineffective bloated nagware with the arrival of Windows.

Yes, bootable floppies, with drivers to let them use CDs for more stuff.
Very handy.

It's only fairly recently that I found an equivalent to Norton Commander
for Windows. I've been using Midnight Commander on my forays into Linux
since I started trying to use Linux.

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Mains wiring:
get a few bulb sockets and plugs, explain how power flows, what the fuse is
for, why to trim the conductors so the earth is longest in a plug and so on,

then give them a bulb socket (maybe some a plastic one, and some a metal one
needing an earth connection.... or a table lamp would be better) a length of
flex and a plug with a selection of fuses and see what they do.

Maybe prepare a wooden board on legs with a consumer unit on it and a couple
of sockets connected to it, the CU connected to the scout hut's mains via an
isolating transformer if the RCD will still work in the CU on the board???

Then they can test their wiring by plugging the lamp thingy they just made
in (after you have checked it's wired properly) so they get a sense of
achieving something that works rather than just wiring a bit of flex to a
plug then taking it off again.

You could then produce some lamp flex thingies with faults you have put on
them, a wire come out of the plug of bulb socket terminal, short between L+E
and L+N in the bulb socket so the MCB or RCD trips to show them that,
Then get them to find and correct the fault, reset the MCB/RCD and see their
bulb working.

tell them about the common things people do wrong around the house...
overloading extensions, running extension cables under the carpet, covering
plug top PSU's with clothing, slippers, wank mags etc.


Plumbing:
Maybe a toilet cistern with a ball valve to adjust and a siphon to change,
or the modern equivalent of the old style siphons (maybe changing an old
style siphon to a modern dual volume flush valve)

a tap washer/ceramic cart. to change.
unblock a sink by taking the U bend/bottle trap off, show them what happens
when fat goes down the plug hole in the kitchen sink etc.

Fix a leaking pipe as others have suggested, but make a board up with
various stop tap types on... if adventurous, add a pavement stop tap by
building a platform with a street valve under it and a cover, for added
realism fill the hole with mud and water so they have to dig about for the
valve... tho most would never use that needing the T bar jobbie to reach
down to most street valves, which i doubt many people have nowadays... tho
modern external water meters are well within arms reach.

Bleed radiators and re-pressurise a combi boiler,

General DIY:
put a shelf up as others mentioned, lubricate rusty hinges on a shed, lube a
sticking lock (with graphite powder) sharpen a lawn mower blade, re-wind a
strimmer reel,
unclog a hoover and so on.

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tell them about the common things people do wrong around the house...
overloading extensions, running extension cables under the carpet, covering
plug top PSU's with clothing, slippers, wank mags etc.



Is there an 'approved' method of wanking ?


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Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...


Can that be done?


"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.
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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10


So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However
I have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group
meeting so that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.

How about a toilet cistern. You have a ball valve and a siphon.



Fine for the home stuff with J - and the scout hut has toilets so we can do
that for the group badge. Ta.

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install a wireless doorbell ... sorry



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Oil and sparkplug change on a car.


Letting other people's kids go hands-on[1] with used engine oil strikes me
as seriously bold and courageous for 2014.

Possibly putting on a spare wheel and inflating it to the right pressure -
assuming there's additional adult supervision to stop daft buggers kigging
the jack out, bouncing on the wings etc?


[1] or hands-in, on-faces etc



Changing a wheel is a good idea. I have the use of an portable compressor
and a flat parking space outside the scout hut. I think I would prefer to us
a trolley jack.

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10
or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****. However
I
have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a group meeting
so
that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock that
needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock in the
water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Install/replace cd and/or hd on a computer.

Remove Norton Futilities from a computer...


Bypassing Internet filters - every 14 year old has worked out that one.



Scouts now cover the 10 to 14 year olds.

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Bypassing Internet filters - every 14 year old has worked out that one.

Scouts now cover the 10 to 14 year olds.


Bypassing the 13 age limit for Facebook

Setting your Facebook profile so your parents can't see it

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I have a 6 week task to get the gf's lad to pass either
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10

or
https://members.scouts.org.uk/suppor...56&moduleID=10


So let's assume I go for the DIY badge - that's a piece of ****.
However I have now been tasked with making equipment suitable for a
group meeting so that other members of the group can obtain this badge.
Now I guess I can get an old CH water tank and make up a ball cock
that needs adjusting and use the same tank for the "curing an airlock
in the water" bit.

Any suggestions to make this fun are welcome.

I have no problem with spending a few quid on parts to make this a
worthwhile badge.



Mains wiring:
get a few bulb sockets and plugs, explain how power flows, what the fuse
is for, why to trim the conductors so the earth is longest in a plug and
so on,

then give them a bulb socket (maybe some a plastic one, and some a metal
one needing an earth connection.... or a table lamp would be better) a
length of flex and a plug with a selection of fuses and see what they do.

Maybe prepare a wooden board on legs with a consumer unit on it and a
couple of sockets connected to it, the CU connected to the scout hut's
mains via an isolating transformer if the RCD will still work in the CU
on the board???

Then they can test their wiring by plugging the lamp thingy they just
made in (after you have checked it's wired properly) so they get a sense
of achieving something that works rather than just wiring a bit of flex
to a plug then taking it off again.

You could then produce some lamp flex thingies with faults you have put
on them, a wire come out of the plug of bulb socket terminal, short
between L+E and L+N in the bulb socket so the MCB or RCD trips to show
them that,
Then get them to find and correct the fault, reset the MCB/RCD and see
their bulb working.

tell them about the common things people do wrong around the house...
overloading extensions, running extension cables under the carpet,
covering plug top PSU's with clothing, slippers, wank mags etc.


Plumbing:
Maybe a toilet cistern with a ball valve to adjust and a siphon to
change, or the modern equivalent of the old style siphons (maybe
changing an old style siphon to a modern dual volume flush valve)

a tap washer/ceramic cart. to change.
unblock a sink by taking the U bend/bottle trap off, show them what
happens when fat goes down the plug hole in the kitchen sink etc.

Fix a leaking pipe as others have suggested, but make a board up with
various stop tap types on... if adventurous, add a pavement stop tap by
building a platform with a street valve under it and a cover, for added
realism fill the hole with mud and water so they have to dig about for
the valve... tho most would never use that needing the T bar jobbie to
reach down to most street valves, which i doubt many people have
nowadays... tho modern external water meters are well within arms reach.

Bleed radiators and re-pressurise a combi boiler,

General DIY:
put a shelf up as others mentioned, lubricate rusty hinges on a shed,
lube a sticking lock (with graphite powder) sharpen a lawn mower blade,
re-wind a strimmer reel,
unclog a hoover and so on.

Anything practical you can teach them will be a massive advance on what
they know (in my experience).
Most of them do not know how to wire a plug, put in a screw, drive in a
nail, drill a hole, use a saw!
Parenting today - pah!


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Upgrade to a new phone, shifting all the contacts etc to the new phone.



Kids can do that in their sleep.


Not all of them do it the best way with something like PhoneCopy.

Most of them get a new phone every year.




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