Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100
george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

Now that was good!

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On 26/06/14 16:02, Davey wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100
george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

Now that was good!


Genius!

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

That didn't end in the way I thought it would.

"george - dicegeorge" wrote in message
...
Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

**** me, it's the fed dibnah of the tree world

On 26/06/2014 16:37, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

That didn't end in the way I thought it would.

+1

On 26/06/2014 16:37, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

That didn't end in the way I thought it would.

From the tree cutter's reaction at the end, he wasn't too sure himself.

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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 26/06/14 16:02, Davey wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100
george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

Now that was good!


Genius!


Far more skilled than me then I cut this one down after spending the
afternoon in the pub (and the first time I had felled a tree). I had to
shove the tree away from the neighbours shed when I heard the crack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TtGQNvuovE

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge
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oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493



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On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:34:40 +0100, ARW wrote:

Far more skilled than me then I cut this one down after spending the
afternoon in the pub (and the first time I had felled a tree).

A friend and I took four trees down yesterday morning.

One went the direction we thought it would. One went almost the right
direction. The other two went - quite literally - 180deg out.

On 26/06/2014 16:49, Gazz wrote:

"george - dicegeorge" wrote in message
...
Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

**** me, it's the fed dibnah of the tree world

Yes, not only was it in the gap, it was right in the middle.

newshound wrote:
On 26/06/2014 16:49, Gazz wrote:

"george - dicegeorge" wrote in message
...
Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

**** me, it's the fed dibnah of the tree world

Yes, not only was it in the gap, it was right in the middle.

Yeah but how many videos did he shoot before uploading THAT one? ;-)

Tim

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:49:16 +0100, "Gazz" wrote:


"george - dicegeorge" wrote in message
...
Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

**** me, it's the Fred Dibnah of the tree world! :-)

Fixed your post for you. :-)
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I suppose its a picture or video of a cut down tree going the wrong way
then?
Brian

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"Davey" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100
george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

Now that was good!

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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:12:36 +0100
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

I suppose its a picture or video of a cut down tree going the wrong
way then?
Brian


The total opposite. You think it's sure to hit one or other of the two
buildings, but when it drops, it fits absolutely perfectly in the gap,
hitting nothing. In fact, more damage is done when it's dragged away
then when it's felled.
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"Nightjar "cpb"@" "insert my surname here wrote in message
...
On 26/06/2014 16:37, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

That didn't end in the way I thought it would.

From the tree cutter's reaction at the end, he wasn't too sure himself.

Or maybe he is just a ham.

Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:
On 26/06/2014 16:37, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493

That didn't end in the way I thought it would.

From the tree cutter's reaction at the end, he wasn't too sure himself.

ISTR the almighty being included in the credits. The feller's thanks
might have been routine.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:20:45 +0000 (UTC), Adrian wrote:

One went the direction we thought it would. One went almost the right
direction. The other two went - quite literally - 180deg out.

Sounds as if you didn't cut a level bottomed wedge about 5/8th away
across the trunk and at 90 deg to the direction you wanted the tree
to fall. The cut from the opposite side horizontal and a little above
the base of the wedge cut.

But I can't imagine that you could have cut 4 trees straight through
and not had at least one of them "sit down" onto the saw and bind it
very firmly.

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On 27/06/2014 00:56, Davey wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:12:36 +0100
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

I suppose its a picture or video of a cut down tree going the wrong
way then?
Brian


The total opposite. You think it's sure to hit one or other of the two
buildings, but when it drops, it fits absolutely perfectly in the gap,
hitting nothing. In fact, more damage is done when it's dragged away
then when it's felled.


There is also a post for an overhead electricity supply very close by,
which I presume is a factor in his having to drop the tree between the
two buildings. It is also worth mentioning that the gap the tree drops
into looks to be only about 3-4 times as wide as the tree.

--
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:13:21 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:

One went the direction we thought it would. One went almost the right
direction. The other two went - quite literally - 180deg out.

Sounds as if you didn't cut a level bottomed wedge about 5/8th away
across the trunk and at 90 deg to the direction you wanted the tree to
fall. The cut from the opposite side horizontal and a little above the
base of the wedge cut.

But I can't imagine that you could have cut 4 trees straight through and
not had at least one of them "sit down" onto the saw and bind it very
firmly.

Wedges definitely cut. It's just that two of them decided the wedge
wasn't the direction they wanted to go. One of them was definitely
because of an un-noticed angle to the entire trunk. (they're basically
5ft Xmas trees that've been grown in VERY close proximity for so long
that they're now 5ft Xmas trees on top of a 50ft lollipop.)

The other one? Just bloody-minded, I think.

They weren't a great problem, though. The 15 or so that could've harmed
anything were taken out at the start of the year by Western Power.

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge
wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493



I had to have a larger Sycamore tree cut down a couple of weeks ago. Far too
big and badly located for me to tackle. Expensive logs, it cost me £610.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWaqPfIIx2M if you want to see
professional arborists at work.

Mike

In article ,
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote:

There is also a post for an overhead electricity supply very close by,
which I presume is a factor in his having to drop the tree between the
two buildings. It is also worth mentioning that the gap the tree drops
into looks to be only about 3-4 times as wide as the tree.

*Also* worth mentioning that the tree is a fully grown Douglas fir,
maybe 24" diameter at the base, and that it seems to have grown up
through the decking outside a house. They've decided to cut it down, and
they've decided to fell it in one go (instead of taking it down in
sections), and they've *clearly* decided that if it sways a bit on the
way down, and demolishes the house corner, or the shed on the other
side, then ... ah, what the heck. It's surreal!

On the other hand, when it goes down so well they seem to Thank the Lord
so much, in the American way, that maybe it was their Faith which gave
them so much "confidence".

J.

On 27/06/2014 09:19, Muddymike wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:51:14 +0100, george - dicegeorge
wrote:

Careful with that tree,
watch out for the buildings,
oh...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1450767261845493



I had to have a larger Sycamore tree cut down a couple of weeks ago. Far
too big and badly located for me to tackle. Expensive logs, it cost me
£610.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWaqPfIIx2M if you want to see
professional arborists at work.

Mike


It's a Douglas Fir in the video. Straight as a die and probably very
predictable

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:19:58 +0100, Muddymike wrote:

I had to have a larger Sycamore tree cut down a couple of weeks ago. Far
too big and badly located for me to tackle. Expensive logs, it cost me
£610.

A dumpy bag of cut, split, air dried, hardwood logs costs about £70
delivered aroud here. I bet a "large Sycamore" has yielded rather
more than 8 dumpy bags of logs ...

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In message , Brian Gaff
writes
I suppose its a picture or video of a cut down tree going the wrong way
then?

As said, it is a perfect drop between a bungalow and a shed.

I have been waiting for AJH as our professional feller to comment....

It seemed to me that the pre-cut wedge forming the directional hinge was
cut on the wrong side. maybe they cut two? Also, from the size and
position of the tackle removing the butt, there could easily have been a
rope; hidden by the trunk, giving an initial tug in the right direction.

--
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:13:21 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:20:45 +0000 (UTC), Adrian wrote:

One went the direction we thought it would. One went almost the right
direction. The other two went - quite literally - 180deg out.

Sounds as if you didn't cut a level bottomed wedge about 5/8th away
across the trunk and at 90 deg

Why 90deg? I'd have expected the wedge to be taken out in the direction
you want the tree to fall in. Thinking of a clock face, if I want the
tree to drop at 3 o'clock I cut the wedge at 3 o'clock and then cut in
from 9 o'clock.

to the direction you wanted the tree to
fall. The cut from the opposite side horizontal and a little above the
base of the wedge cut.


--
David P

Another John wrote:

they've decided to fell it in one go (instead of taking it down in
sections), and they've *clearly* decided that if it sways a bit on the
way down, and demolishes the house corner, or the shed on the other
side, then ... ah, what the heck. It's surreal!

On the other hand, when it goes down so well they seem to Thank the Lord
so much, in the American way, that maybe it was their Faith which gave
them so much "confidence".

Yahweh gets an end credit.

On 27/06/14 09:50, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:19:58 +0100, Muddymike wrote:

I had to have a larger Sycamore tree cut down a couple of weeks ago. Far
too big and badly located for me to tackle. Expensive logs, it cost me
£610.

A dumpy bag of cut, split, air dried, hardwood logs costs about £70
delivered aroud here. I bet a "large Sycamore" has yielded rather
more than 8 dumpy bags of logs ...

we spent nearly a grand on having a large maple removed..and netted
nearly a grands worth of firewood..


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On 27/06/2014 10:45, David P wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:13:21 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:20:45 +0000 (UTC), Adrian wrote:

One went the direction we thought it would. One went almost the right
direction. The other two went - quite literally - 180deg out.

Sounds as if you didn't cut a level bottomed wedge about 5/8th away
across the trunk and at 90 deg

Why 90deg? I'd have expected the wedge to be taken out in the direction
you want the tree to fall in. Thinking of a clock face, if I want the
tree to drop at 3 o'clock I cut the wedge at 3 o'clock and then cut in
from 9 o'clock.

to the direction you wanted the tree to
fall. The cut from the opposite side horizontal and a little above the
base of the wedge cut.


I think it was just a form of words. To cut a wedge out in the direction
you want it to fall you need to have the saw at 90 degrees to that.

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:48:08 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Another John wrote:

they've decided to fell it in one go (instead of taking it down in
sections), and they've *clearly* decided that if it sways a bit on the
way down, and demolishes the house corner, or the shed on the other
side, then ... ah, what the heck. It's surreal!

On the other hand, when it goes down so well they seem to Thank the Lord
so much, in the American way, that maybe it was their Faith which gave
them so much "confidence".

Yahweh gets an end credit.

I did notice that. I guess this was a "Cut and Hope" exercise.

--
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:17:29 +0100, Andrew May wrote:

Sounds as if you didn't cut a level bottomed wedge about 5/8th
away
across the trunk and at 90 deg

Why 90deg? I'd have expected the wedge to be taken out in the
direction you want the tree to fall in.

I think it was just a form of words. To cut a wedge out in the direction
you want it to fall you need to have the saw at 90 degrees to that.

Correct.

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Dave.

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:33:04 +0100, Johny B Good
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:48:08 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Another John wrote:

they've decided to fell it in one go (instead of taking it down in
sections), and they've *clearly* decided that if it sways a bit on the
way down, and demolishes the house corner, or the shed on the other
side, then ... ah, what the heck. It's surreal!

On the other hand, when it goes down so well they seem to Thank the Lord
so much, in the American way, that maybe it was their Faith which gave
them so much "confidence".

Yahweh gets an end credit.

I did notice that. I guess this was a "Cut and Hope" exercise.

Oh, and btw, did anyone else have the song title "Careful with that
axe, Eugene." come to mind on seeing the subject title? :-)
--
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On 27/06/2014 18:40, Johny B Good wrote:
Oh, and btw, did anyone else have the song title "Careful with that
axe, Eugene." come to mind on seeing the subject title?:-)

Certainly did.

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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:23:57 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

As said, it is a perfect drop between a bungalow and a shed.

Yes looked good to me

I have been waiting for AJH as our professional feller to comment....

It seemed to me that the pre-cut wedge forming the directional hinge was
cut on the wrong side. maybe they cut two?

I think they removed bark at the back in order for the wedges to bite
into good wood.

Also, from the size and
position of the tackle removing the butt, there could easily have been a
rope; hidden by the trunk, giving an initial tug in the right direction.

Hard to tell, there seems to be no sign of the hinge on the piece
being dragged out. This should be a parallel (on a vertical stem)
piece of timber left after the final cut and being about 10% of the
thickness of the trunk and set in by 25% of the diameter, the front
edge being formed when the 30-40 degree sink is initially removed.
It's the tension wood in this hinge that prevents the stem falling
sideways (backwards it just closes the cut which is why the wedges are
used.

If you think about it lowering or ziplining the crown out of that
little space would have put the buildings at more frequent risk rather
than the one big one of a straight fell.

AJH

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:40:38 +0100, Johny B Good wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:33:04 +0100, Johny B Good
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:48:08 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Another John wrote:

they've decided to fell it in one go (instead of taking it down in
sections), and they've *clearly* decided that if it sways a bit on
the way down, and demolishes the house corner, or the shed on the
other side, then ... ah, what the heck. It's surreal!

On the other hand, when it goes down so well they seem to Thank the
Lord so much, in the American way, that maybe it was their Faith
which gave them so much "confidence".

Yahweh gets an end credit.

I did notice that. I guess this was a "Cut and Hope" exercise.

Oh, and btw, did anyone else have the song title "Careful with that
axe, Eugene." come to mind on seeing the subject title? :-)

Yes.



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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

we spent nearly a grand on having a large maple removed..and netted
nearly a grands worth of firewood..

Got a ruddy big fir (prolly lleylandii) to get shot of. So 50p of
firewood. Grrrr.

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In article ,
Scott M wrote:

we spent nearly a grand on having a large maple removed..and netted
nearly a grands worth of firewood..

Got a ruddy big fir (prolly lleylandii) to get shot of. So 50p of
firewood. Grrrr.

Hm. I felled a few old leylandii for a neighbour some time ago -- up to
18 inches across at the base.

I've found that - given a few months weathering, and a year in the log
shelter -- leylandii is good firewood. It burns pretty fast, but given
that it was free, and that I have tons of it, I'm happy with it!

John

In article ,
Huge wrote:

On 2014-06-30, Another John wrote:

I've found that - given a few months weathering, and a year in the log
shelter -- leylandii is good firewood. It burns pretty fast, but given
that it was free, and that I have tons of it, I'm happy with it!

I started burning the leylandii that came down in the storm a couple of months
ago almost immediately. Sawn into 9" lengths and quartered lengthways, it
burned just fine after 2 or 3 weeks in the log store.

Oh aye it'll burn Huge, but doesn't it contain vast amounts of
oils/creosote etc, that you need [or ought] to weather off?
As illustrated by the **fantastic** bonfires I had when burning all the
loppings off the trees I cut down -- nothing like a leylandii bonfire
for recreating boyhood thrills: cor, it wasn't half fun for a few days!

J.