Anyone have any ideas to join galvanised steel pipe to copper on a central
heating system (other than threading the pipe). Philmac UTC 15-21 does the
join the data says it's only cold water rated

On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:32:51 +0100, BillP wrote:

Anyone have any ideas to join galvanised steel pipe to copper on a
central heating system (other than threading the pipe). Philmac UTC
15-21 does the join the data says it's only cold water rated

Over 30 years ago I had exactly the same problem. The local
(knowledgeable) plumbers' merchant sold me the solution, as as far as I
know it's still in there (we moved, but know the people who bought the
house as we only moved 50 yards).

A Johnson Coupling...

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Thanks Bob nice one.

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On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:32:51 +0100, BillP wrote:

Anyone have any ideas to join galvanised steel pipe to copper on a
central heating system (other than threading the pipe). Philmac UTC
15-21 does the join the data says it's only cold water rated

Over 30 years ago I had exactly the same problem. The local
(knowledgeable) plumbers' merchant sold me the solution, as as far as I
know it's still in there (we moved, but know the people who bought the
house as we only moved 50 yards).

A Johnson Coupling...

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In article , Bob Eager
writes
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:32:51 +0100, BillP wrote:

Anyone have any ideas to join galvanised steel pipe to copper on a
central heating system (other than threading the pipe). Philmac UTC
15-21 does the join the data says it's only cold water rated

Over 30 years ago I had exactly the same problem. The local
(knowledgeable) plumbers' merchant sold me the solution, as as far as I
know it's still in there (we moved, but know the people who bought the
house as we only moved 50 yards).

A Johnson Coupling...

Interesting things but I'm struggling to find full information.

Are they really ok to use on heating? The closest data I can find is for
larger diameter stuff (Viking Johnson Megafit couplings - 2" min) and
while there is a nitrile based seal version for use to 100degC, it does
say, "Not suitable for fluctuating temperature, e.g. heating systems" on
that range.

Searching through Primofit branded variants eventually leads to a
datasheet but it's brief to say the least and does not mention
temperature or cycling.

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On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 13:25:38 +0100, fred wrote:

In article , Bob Eager
writes
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:32:51 +0100, BillP wrote:

Anyone have any ideas to join galvanised steel pipe to copper on a
central heating system (other than threading the pipe). Philmac UTC
15-21 does the join the data says it's only cold water rated

Over 30 years ago I had exactly the same problem. The local
(knowledgeable) plumbers' merchant sold me the solution, as as far as I
know it's still in there (we moved, but know the people who bought the
house as we only moved 50 yards).

A Johnson Coupling...

Interesting things but I'm struggling to find full information.

Are they really ok to use on heating? The closest data I can find is for
larger diameter stuff (Viking Johnson Megafit couplings - 2" min) and
while there is a nitrile based seal version for use to 100degC, it does
say, "Not suitable for fluctuating temperature, e.g. heating systems" on
that range.

I think ours was a nitrile seal (but it was a long time ago) so I may
just have been in blissful ignorance...

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In article , Bob Eager
writes
On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 13:25:38 +0100, fred wrote:

In article , Bob Eager
writes

A Johnson Coupling...

Interesting things but I'm struggling to find full information.

Are they really ok to use on heating? The closest data I can find is for
larger diameter stuff (Viking Johnson Megafit couplings - 2" min) and
while there is a nitrile based seal version for use to 100degC, it does
say, "Not suitable for fluctuating temperature, e.g. heating systems" on
that range.

I think ours was a nitrile seal (but it was a long time ago) so I may
just have been in blissful ignorance...

I suppose they might be worried about wear on the seal elements from
repeated expansion/contraction cycles but as you say, if it has worked
for you/them all this time then it can't be all that bad.

Not cheap though.

Thanks for pointing them out.
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In article ,
"BillP" writes:
Anyone have any ideas to join galvanised steel pipe to copper on a central
heating system (other than threading the pipe). Philmac UTC 15-21 does the
join the data says it's only cold water rated

When I've needed to do this, I've taken the iron out back the the
nearest coupling, and then used a BSP to compression fitting.

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