Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe, rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!

Ta :-)

Sparks...

In message , Sparks
writes
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe, rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!

Err ... you posted a link then asked where you could get what was at
that url

When I replaced my boiler, I had one of these tools to hand - whack it
with a hammer - pipe fits inside pipe, job done

--
geoff

In message , .
writes
Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

'Kin excellent bit of kit


Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

so they do.

Am I correct in thinking

no.

Don't invite me to the wedding

--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Sparks
writes
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch
one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe,
rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!

Err ... you posted a link then asked where you could get what was at that
url

I wasn't sure, as I though a flare was a small (as in a couple of mm)
spread.
The tool they used to connect the A/C pipe to the compressor was indeed a
flaring tool, it had the pipe clamped in a vice type thing, then a cone was
screwed down onto the pipe and did somthing like this to the pipe
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/werkzeug/12.jpg
A nut was put on the pipe before flaring, then screwed to a connector like
this on the compressor.
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/1187723.JPG

The tool I am talking about is a swaging tool (I just rememberd the name!)
Rather than just a flared edge, it ended up like this
http://uniweld.com/images/online_cat...07_action3.jpg

I think I have answered my own question now, excpet does the screwfix
flaring tool
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190 do swaging too!?

Is ther any disadvantage to doing this?
(Other than the fact that a 15mm coupler is only £0.0636 and a 22mm is only
£0.149!)
(Payback in about 140 22mm fittings - well less, as there is only 1/2 the
amount of solder used!)


When I replaced my boiler, I had one of these tools to hand - whack it
with a hammer - pipe fits inside pipe, job done

No solder!?!

Sparks...

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:28:59 +0100, "Sparks"
wrote:

Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe, rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!

Ta :-)

Sparks...

If you haven't access to a lathe, bung a bit of iron railing or mild
steel rod into the chuck of an electric drill and use a file to reduce
about 15mm at the end to be just over the diameter of the pipe and
dome the end. Bang that into the end of the copper pipe. Voila!

Makes a nice neat looking join

In message , EricP
writes
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:28:59 +0100, "Sparks"
wrote:

Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe, rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!

Ta :-)

Sparks...

If you haven't access to a lathe, bung a bit of iron railing or mild
steel rod into the chuck of an electric drill and use a file to reduce
about 15mm at the end to be just over the diameter of the pipe and
dome the end. Bang that into the end of the copper pipe. Voila!

Makes a nice neat looking join

??


--
geoff

In message , Sparks
writes

Err ... you posted a link then asked where you could get what was at that
url

I wasn't sure, as I though a flare was a small (as in a couple of mm)
spread.
The tool they used to connect the A/C pipe to the compressor was indeed a
flaring tool, it had the pipe clamped in a vice type thing, then a cone was
screwed down onto the pipe and did somthing like this to the pipe
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1/1/werkzeug/12.jpg
A nut was put on the pipe before flaring, then screwed to a connector like
this on the compressor.
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/1187723.JPG

The tool I am talking about is a swaging tool (I just rememberd the name!)
Rather than just a flared edge, it ended up like this
http://uniweld.com/images/online_cat...07_action3.jpg

I think I have answered my own question now, excpet does the screwfix
flaring tool
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190 do swaging too!?

Is ther any disadvantage to doing this?
(Other than the fact that a 15mm coupler is only £0.0636 and a 22mm is only
£0.149!)
(Payback in about 140 22mm fittings - well less, as there is only 1/2 the
amount of solder used!)


When I replaced my boiler, I had one of these tools to hand - whack it
with a hammer - pipe fits inside pipe, job done

No solder!?!

Bugger - I knew there was something I shouldn't have done

--
geoff

raden wrote:
In message , EricP
writes
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:28:59 +0100, "Sparks"
wrote:

Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the
pipe, rather than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit
inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called
so I can try to find one if they exist!

Ta :-)

Sparks...

If you haven't access to a lathe, bung a bit of iron railing or mild
steel rod into the chuck of an electric drill and use a file to
reduce about 15mm at the end to be just over the diameter of the
pipe and dome the end. Bang that into the end of the copper pipe.
Voila!

Makes a nice neat looking join

??


--
geoff

For the benefit of the tape, Raden is stumped.

Even i can decipher what MrP is proposing.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
raden wrote:
In message , EricP
writes
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:28:59 +0100, "Sparks"
wrote:

Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the
pipe, rather than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit
inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called
so I can try to find one if they exist!

Ta :-)

Sparks...

If you haven't access to a lathe, bung a bit of iron railing or mild
steel rod into the chuck of an electric drill and use a file to
reduce about 15mm at the end to be just over the diameter of the
pipe and dome the end. Bang that into the end of the copper pipe.
Voila!

Makes a nice neat looking join

??


--
geoff

For the benefit of the tape, Raden is stumped.

Even i can decipher what MrP is proposing.

For the benefit of those who had too much pop last night

Take a suitable piece of material to make the tool from. Turn it down
to just over the diameter of the pipes to be joined (a method for those
with no access to alathe is given), for about 15mm along it length.
Round off the end a little. Take one of the pipes to be joined and use
the tool just fabricated by whacking it into the end of the pipe with a
hammer thus stretching the diameter of the pipe so that it will fit
over the other piece to be joined.

Quite simple really.

MBQ

Sparks wrote in message
...
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch
one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe,
rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!


Yes I use a flaring toll made by Ridgid, its considerably better then the
cheep type that you bash in with a hammer, it allows you to make joins under
flooring or to existing pipework with ease.
But they are expensive, you would need to be doing lots of plumbing to
justify the cost versus time saved.
Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv
The Screwfix one is not for plumbing, its used for making brake pipes on
cars.


-- -

Mark wrote:
Sparks wrote in message
...
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to stretch
one
of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

Am I correct in thinking this just spreads the very end of the pipe,
rather
than stretching 2cms or so for another pipe to fit inside?
If so, where can I get the appropriate tool, or what is it called so I can
try to find one if they exist!


Yes I use a flaring toll made by Ridgid, its considerably better then the
cheep type that you bash in with a hammer, it allows you to make joins under
flooring or to existing pipework with ease.
But they are expensive, you would need to be doing lots of plumbing to
justify the cost versus time saved.
Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl at least have the decency to
post the full version as well, for those of us who want to take a look.

MBQ

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

Screwfix sell this
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=15190

so they do.

Am I correct in thinking

no.


--
Regards,
Mike Halmarack

Drop the (EGG) to email me.

wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
raden wrote:
In message , EricP
writes
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:28:59 +0100, "Sparks"
wrote:


Take a suitable piece of material to make the tool from. Turn it down
to just over the diameter of the pipes to be joined (a method for those
with no access to alathe is given), for about 15mm along it length.
Round off the end a little. Take one of the pipes to be joined and use
the tool just fabricated by whacking it into the end of the pipe with a
hammer thus stretching the diameter of the pipe so that it will fit
over the other piece to be joined.

Quite simple really.

MBQ

Dont **** about. Cheaper to use end feed fittings. If you must go to:

http://www.rothenberger-tool-uk-sale..._expander.html

(I have no connection with this company)

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:56 GMT, "Mark" wrote:

The Screwfix one is not for plumbing, its used for making brake pipes on
cars.

Possibly, though as it goes up to 30mm diameter, it may do for some
plumbing at a pinch.
--
Regards,
Mike Halmarack

Drop the (EGG) to email me.

Mike Halmarack ... wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:56 GMT, "Mark" wrote:

The Screwfix one is not for plumbing, its used for making brake pipes on
cars.

Possibly, though as it goes up to 30mm diameter, it may do for some
.


_Cuts_ up to 30mm and makes automotive type double flars upto 5/8 which are
no use for CH/water copper pipe plumbing, or even "plumbing at a pinch"



-- -

The message .com
from contains these words:

Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:08:44 GMT, Mark wrote:

Mike Halmarack ... wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:56 GMT, "Mark" wrote:

The Screwfix one is not for plumbing, its used for making brake pipes on
cars.

Possibly, though as it goes up to 30mm diameter, it may do for some
.


_Cuts_ up to 30mm and makes automotive type double flars upto 5/8 which are
no use for CH/water copper pipe plumbing, or even "plumbing at a pinch"

I do beg your pardon.
--
Regards,
Mike Halmarack

Drop the (EGG) to email me.

Guy King wrote:
The message .com
from contains these words:

Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg

Nope, even that still links to
http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/doc/i...rloadblock.jpg

MBQ

Mark wrote:
Guy King wrote in message
...
The message .com
from contains these words:

Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg


I wasn't going to waste my fingertime trying to tell him that ;-(

Indeed, it would have been a waste as that doesn't work either.

MBQ

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

Guy King wrote in message
...
The message .com
from contains these words:

Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg


I wasn't going to waste my fingertime trying to tell him that ;-(


-- -

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:30:53 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

--
Regards,
Mike Halmarack

Drop the (EGG) to email me.

manatbandq wrote:
Guy King wrote:
The message from manatbandq:
Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg

Nope, even that still links to
http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/doc/i...rloadblock.jpg

Hm. Works for me...

wrote:
If you are going to post a broken tinyurl at least have the decency to
post the full version as well, for those of us who want to take a
look.

Works for me.
However tinyurl is blocked by a lot of work places so the full URL
should be given.
--
This post contains no hidden meanings, no implications and certainly no
hidden agendas so it should be taken at face value. The wrong words
may be used this is due to my limitations with the English language .

wrote:
Guy King wrote:
Links quite adequately to
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg

Nope, even that still links to
http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/doc/i...rloadblock.jpg

Works fine for me.




--
This post contains no hidden meanings, no implications and certainly no
hidden agendas so it should be taken at face value. The wrong words
may be used this is due to my limitations with the English language .

wrote in message
.com

Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg


I wasn't going to waste my fingertime trying to tell him that ;-(

Indeed, it would have been a waste as that doesn't work either.


What ISP/ browser are you using, it seems freeserve/wanapoo have a odd DNS
lookup for direct Lycos images which then displays the rloadblock page.
Has anyone else been redirected to the loadblock page, If this is a problem
for the majority I will revise my picture storage.

Just for you try
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...iy/1280305.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/p6ttr





-- -

soup wrote:

wrote:

Guy King wrote:

Links quite adequately to
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg


Nope, even that still links to
http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/doc/i...rloadblock.jpg


Works fine for me.

Clicking on the angelfire link works for me.
I have the tinyurl preview feature enabled, and I then get the
roadblock unless I cut and paste the angelfire URL in a new window.
I suspect that angelfire doesn't like referrals from tinypic or
Google (that manatbandq is using).

The message . com
from contains these words:

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg

Nope, even that still links to
http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/doc/i...rloadblock.jpg

How strange. I've just clicked on the one I posted and it works fine -
takes you to a picture of a thing for doing a goatse to a pipe.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:30:53 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

from the berk who wanted to use a brake pipe flaring tool to
save 4p on a straight coupler LOL come back whet you've
done a few houses up and I'll tell you all about value ;-)

Mark wrote:
wrote in message
.com

Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl

Not broken here.
Links quite adequately to
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/diy/1280305.jpg


I wasn't going to waste my fingertime trying to tell him that ;-(

Indeed, it would have been a waste as that doesn't work either.


What ISP/ browser are you using, it seems freeserve/wanapoo have a odd DNS

No idea. I'm browsing google during my idle moments at work.

lookup for direct Lycos images which then displays the rloadblock page.
Has anyone else been redirected to the loadblock page, If this is a problem
for the majority I will revise my picture storage.

Just for you try
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...iy/1280305.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/p6ttr

Both OK.

MBQ

wrote:
What ISP/ browser are you using, it seems freeserve/wanapoo have a odd DNS

No idea. I'm browsing google during my idle moments at work.

Sorry, should have said no idea about the ISP, browser is IE6

Also should add in response to someone else that other tinyurls are OK.

MBQ

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:42:36 GMT, "." wrote:


yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

from the berk who wanted to use a brake pipe flaring tool to
save 4p on a straight coupler

Whatever makes you think I wanted to use it?
Fantasy to the rescue eh?

LOL come back whet you've
done a few houses up and I'll tell you all about value ;-)

Thanks very much. Feel free to educate me anytime.

--
Regards,
Mike Halmarack

Drop the (EGG) to email me.

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:30:53 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

scratch the last reply, well, the bit about the OP and the brake pipe
flaring kit. you'll have to excuse me, v. late nights, v. early mornings
plastering in one room & painting in another, running one business
and organising the startup of a LTD company .. I dont really have
time to get into arguments with snipers like you.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:03:07 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:30:53 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside it,
then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

scratch the last reply, well, the bit about the OP and the brake pipe
flaring kit. you'll have to excuse me, v. late nights, v. early mornings
plastering in one room & painting in another, running one business
and organising the startup of a LTD company .. I dont really have
time to get into arguments with snipers like you.

It's all of little consequence. The only reason I'm posting here is
because I'm not currently busy. If I had anything of any significance
to do right now, I'd be doing it.

--
Regards,
Mike Halmarack

Drop the (EGG) to email me.

.. wrote:
I dont really have
time to get into arguments with snipers like you.

Well, just pipe down, then.

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:03:07 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:30:53 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside
it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

scratch the last reply, well, the bit about the OP and the brake pipe
flaring kit. you'll have to excuse me, v. late nights, v. early
mornings plastering in one room & painting in another, running one
business
and organising the startup of a LTD company .. I dont really have
time to get into arguments with snipers like you.

It's all of little consequence. The only reason I'm posting here is
because I'm not currently busy. If I had anything of any significance
to do right now, I'd be doing it.

you have a life. you have downtime and you're snping on usnet ?

go out, there's a whole world out there.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:15:15 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:03:07 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:30:53 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:46:33 GMT, "." wrote:

Sparks wrote:
Hello people!

We have just has some air conditioning installed at work.
When they wanted to join two pipes together, they used a tool to
stretch one of the pipes so the other pipe then fitted inside
it, then they brazed it.

Can this sort of thing be done for normal copper water pipes for
soldering?

yes, but it's a bit old school.

As in pre-spend,spend,spend?
That will never do will it?

yawn.

For you that constitutes added value.

scratch the last reply, well, the bit about the OP and the brake pipe
flaring kit. you'll have to excuse me, v. late nights, v. early
mornings plastering in one room & painting in another, running one
business
and organising the startup of a LTD company .. I dont really have
time to get into arguments with snipers like you.

It's all of little consequence. The only reason I'm posting here is
because I'm not currently busy. If I had anything of any significance
to do right now, I'd be doing it.

you have a life.

So do the folks on death row. It's quality that matters.

you have downtime and you're snping on usnet ?

The only sniping I do is on eBay. I recently bought a water heated
chrome towel rail using this method. Wish I hadn't though, it's got
dents in it. I'm going to have to unsolder the joints to rotate the
bottom rail and put the dents to the back.

go out, there's a whole world out there.

I can't think of a better reason for staying in. Still, it's a good
job we're not all the same eh?

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Mike Halmarack wrote:

you have a life.

So do the folks on death row.

plonk

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:36:48 GMT, "." wrote:

Mike Halmarack wrote:

you have a life.

So do the folks on death row.

plonk

Yes, I find this helps. I usually try to limit it to evenings though.

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Mike Halmarack

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On 28 Mar 2006 02:28:40 -0800, in uk.d-i-y wrote:


Mark wrote:
Sparks wrote in message
...
Yes I use a flaring toll made by Ridgid, its considerably better then the
cheep type that you bash in with a hammer, it allows you to make joins under
flooring or to existing pipework with ease.
But they are expensive, you would need to be doing lots of plumbing to
justify the cost versus time saved.
Picture of it at http://tinyurl.com/k8dcv

If you are going to post a broken tinyurl at least have the decency to
post the full version as well, for those of us who want to take a look.

Nothing wrong with that link, it's your end that needs sorting.

Phil
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