Hello

Album of pictures here, hope you can see them:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10352...Mufpde4lMiHogE

maybe:
https://plus.google.com/photos/103528462423430506785/albums/6007785395285620897?authkey=CMufpde4lMiHogE

Or a short link:

http://goo.gl/tRbOqq http://goo.gl/tRbOqq


So I'm trying to fit the Abru 2 section aluminium loft ladder into an
existing hatch.

Fitted the top and bottom stops, but it seems to me that the hatch door
is too far away from the hatch frame, so that the top hinges of the
ladder can't affix to the hatch frame because the door fouls the ladder.

I think the pictures make the problem clear.

The hatch and door were fitted by the house builder ~15 years ago, and
I've only just gotten around to fitting a ladder and boarding the loft.

I'm pretty green (very green) at D.I.Y so I was disappointed to find
this problem standing in the way of what I'd thought was going to be a
simple job from watching the video at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuBMSB-_F4

So, what can I do? Is it new hatch door?

Thanks!

Gary

On 29/04/2014 19:42, HarpingOn wrote:
Hello

Album of pictures here, hope you can see them:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10352...Mufpde4lMiHogE


maybe:
https://plus.google.com/photos/103528462423430506785/albums/6007785395285620897?authkey=CMufpde4lMiHogE


Or a short link:

http://goo.gl/tRbOqq http://goo.gl/tRbOqq


So I'm trying to fit the Abru 2 section aluminium loft ladder into an
existing hatch.

Fitted the top and bottom stops, but it seems to me that the hatch door
is too far away from the hatch frame, so that the top hinges of the
ladder can't affix to the hatch frame because the door fouls the ladder.

I think the pictures make the problem clear.

The hatch and door were fitted by the house builder ~15 years ago, and
I've only just gotten around to fitting a ladder and boarding the loft.

I'm pretty green (very green) at D.I.Y so I was disappointed to find
this problem standing in the way of what I'd thought was going to be a
simple job from watching the video at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuBMSB-_F4

So, what can I do? Is it new hatch door?

Thanks!

Gary
Could you not just fit a 2"x2" to the dwang, to bring the height up to
or above the chipboard flooring?

HarpingOn wrote:

Hello

Album of pictures here, hope you can see them:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10352...Mufpde4lMiHogE

maybe:
https://plus.google.com/photos/103528462423430506785/albums/6007785395285620897?authkey=CMufpde4lMiHogE

Or a short link:

http://goo.gl/tRbOqq http://goo.gl/tRbOqq


So I'm trying to fit the Abru 2 section aluminium loft ladder into an
existing hatch.

Fitted the top and bottom stops, but it seems to me that the hatch door is
too far away from the hatch frame, so that the top hinges of the ladder
can't affix to the hatch frame because the door fouls the ladder.

I think the pictures make the problem clear.

If you look at the first picture, the one showing a man on a ladder, the
hinges are shown attached to the top of the frame at the level of the attic
floor, nowhere near the hatch flap. Is that not what you are doing?

The pics don't show where you're having your ladder foul the hatch so it's
hard to comment usefully.

Though... it looks to me as if the vertical distance between the attic floor
and the inside of the closed hatch might be too small for the stowed ladder
- is that the problem? If so I guess you'll need to mount the ladder to
something higher than the attic floor. (Don't fasten it to the frame around
the hole unless that frame is strong enough - if it's just a cosmetic edge
around the hole that won't be good enough. Even if it's rigid when the
ladder is extended and also resting on the floor below, you don't want the
whole assembly to be at risk of coming away from the attic/frame as you pull
it down towards you.)

Maybe you've bought a model of ladder that doesn't suit the sizes of your
hatch and frame. In my (limited) experience - in my case where the only
possible place to fit a ladder had limited space above the hatch as well and
roof supports that nearly got in the way of the ladder as it stowed -
finding the right model isn't half so easy as you might expect.

--
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

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"HarpingOn" wrote in message
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Hello

Album of pictures here, hope you can see them:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10352...Mufpde4lMiHogE

maybe:
https://plus.google.com/photos/103528462423430506785/albums/6007785395285620897?authkey=CMufpde4lMiHogE

Or a short link:

http://goo.gl/tRbOqq http://goo.gl/tRbOqq


So I'm trying to fit the Abru 2 section aluminium loft ladder into an
existing hatch.

Fitted the top and bottom stops, but it seems to me that the hatch door is
too far away from the hatch frame, so that the top hinges of the ladder
can't affix to the hatch frame because the door fouls the ladder.

I think the pictures make the problem clear.

The hatch and door were fitted by the house builder ~15 years ago, and
I've only just gotten around to fitting a ladder and boarding the loft.

I'm pretty green (very green) at D.I.Y so I was disappointed to find this
problem standing in the way of what I'd thought was going to be a simple
job from watching the video at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuBMSB-_F4

So, what can I do? Is it new hatch door?

Thanks!

Gary

On my loft ladder the "hinge" is fitted to the upper part of the joist, ie
level with the floor in the loft.
This give clearance for the ladder.
I think your hinge wants moving up as far as I can see from the pictures.

On 29/04/2014 19:42, HarpingOn wrote:
Hello

Album of pictures here, hope you can see them:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10352...Mufpde4lMiHogE


maybe:
https://plus.google.com/photos/103528462423430506785/albums/6007785395285620897?authkey=CMufpde4lMiHogE


Or a short link:

http://goo.gl/tRbOqq http://goo.gl/tRbOqq


So I'm trying to fit the Abru 2 section aluminium loft ladder into an
existing hatch.

Fitted the top and bottom stops, but it seems to me that the hatch door
is too far away from the hatch frame, so that the top hinges of the
ladder can't affix to the hatch frame because the door fouls the ladder.

I think the pictures make the problem clear.

The hatch and door were fitted by the house builder ~15 years ago, and
I've only just gotten around to fitting a ladder and boarding the loft.

I'm pretty green (very green) at D.I.Y so I was disappointed to find
this problem standing in the way of what I'd thought was going to be a
simple job from watching the video at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuBMSB-_F4

So, what can I do? Is it new hatch door?

Thanks!

Gary

Thanks for the responses.

What we ended up doing was screwing some 2x2 to the hatch hinge edge of
of the loft hatch with some muckle screws to bring the attachment points
for the loft ladder forwards, then we could attach the ladder (using the
cheese metal screws provided).

I think mostly trouble because I wasn't using the hatch kit from the
ladder, as we had a hatch already.

Problem: Solved. Big bit 'o wood.