You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

On 14/02/2014 12:17, F Murtz wrote:

You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399

I suspect it is strict part M compliance with Disability Act the ramp is
so long that it must follow a 1:20 gradient due to the legislation.

http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/ramp.html

Given the big change of height I am not sure what they expected from the
council - a 1:4 hiking trail challenge course and a 4WD wheelchair.

Looks to me like a 3M rise so 1:12 would be 36m (ie 30m).

A wheelchair lift might have been cheaper.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Friday, 14 February 2014 12:33:42 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
On 14/02/2014 12:17, F Murtz wrote:



You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.





http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399



I suspect it is strict part M compliance with Disability Act the ramp is

so long that it must follow a 1:20 gradient due to the legislation.



http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/ramp.html



Given the big change of height I am not sure what they expected from the

council - a 1:4 hiking trail challenge course and a 4WD wheelchair.



Looks to me like a 3M rise so 1:12 would be 36m (ie 30m).



A wheelchair lift might have been cheaper.

altho as garden had a flight of long steps up it quite where you'd put it I don;t know - Costs of excavating near house foundations or costs of "wobbly" tower by road and gantry over to house?

Council seem adamant that the family said they could manage stairs when they accepted the (presumably) council house...

One wonders why the council/the tenants didn't just move to another less challenging house in the 2 years spent arguing for access?

I wonder if this house is in a perceived better area than others offered?

Jim K

On Friday 14 February 2014 12:33 Martin Brown wrote in uk.d-i-y:


A wheelchair lift might have been cheaper.


Just what I was thinking - you can get outdoor grade lifts (you see
theme here and there in London). Short vertical drop to a single width
path.

--
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http://www.sensorly.com/ Crowd mapping of 2G/3G/4G mobile signal
coverage

Martin Brown wrote:
On 14/02/2014 12:17, F Murtz wrote:

You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399

I suspect it is strict part M compliance with Disability Act the ramp is
so long that it must follow a 1:20 gradient due to the legislation.

http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/ramp.html

Given the big change of height I am not sure what they expected from the
council - a 1:4 hiking trail challenge course and a 4WD wheelchair.

Looks to me like a 3M rise so 1:12 would be 36m (ie 30m).

A wheelchair lift might have been cheaper.


Or even offering re-homing to a more suitable flat. Whatever, the council
should have discussed the options.

Tim

On 14/02/2014 12:17, F Murtz wrote:

You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399



http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr
How can the journalist make that a third floor flat?

How can the journalist make that a third floor flat?

Plagiarism. Other reports refer to 3 flights of stairs. If you av to
go up 3 flights of stairs to get to it then its a 3rd floor flat innit?
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

--
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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

Well, it does look safe and secure. Although an eyesore ISTM hard to come up
with a better solution.

If the family were beginning to face such issues I wonder if they considered
moving to somewhere that was more suitable to their needs.

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Yes, possibly. There was mention of a campaign by the family who live in the
house.

I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have been
better for the occupant to object at some point before the work was
completed. That might have saved money and time.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved that,
for a fraction of that cost.

That doesn't sound at all safe.

James

On 14/02/2014 14:43, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Very probably but they don't have a lot of choice given the rules.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

There are hard health and safety guidelines in the UK that the council
would have to obey and one of them for that rise is a 1:20 max slope
with landings at least every 10m or so (I forget the exact rules).

Finding them a house that was less mountainous would have been a much
more satisfactory solution for all concerned. This is a problem caused
by the rules being very prescriptive. After all they sound like the sort
of family that would set no win no fee lawyers on the council if after
some accident they found the gradient was 1:19.5 instead of 1:20.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 14/02/2014 12:33, Martin Brown wrote:
On 14/02/2014 12:17, F Murtz wrote:

You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


I suspect it is strict part M compliance with Disability Act the ramp is
so long that it must follow a 1:20 gradient due to the legislation.

http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/ramp.html

Given the big change of height I am not sure what they expected from the
council - a 1:4 hiking trail challenge course and a 4WD wheelchair.

Looks to me like a 3M rise so 1:12 would be 36m (ie 30m).

A wheelchair lift might have been cheaper.

Looking at some Council guidelines, it appears that stair lifts may not
be considered suitable if the wheelchair user is a child.

Colin Bignell

It happens that James Harris formulated :
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

Well, it does look safe and secure. Although an eyesore ISTM hard to come up
with a better solution.

If the family were beginning to face such issues I wonder if they considered
moving to somewhere that was more suitable to their needs.

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Yes, possibly. There was mention of a campaign by the family who live in the
house.

I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have been
better for the occupant to object at some point before the work was
completed. That might have saved money and time.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved that,
for a fraction of that cost.

That doesn't sound at all safe.

James

There hundreds off cable incline lifts.

--
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Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Martin Brown explained :
On 14/02/2014 14:43, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Very probably but they don't have a lot of choice given the rules.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

There are hard health and safety guidelines in the UK that the council would
have to obey and one of them for that rise is a 1:20 max slope with landings
at least every 10m or so (I forget the exact rules).

Finding them a house that was less mountainous would have been a much more
satisfactory solution for all concerned. This is a problem caused by the
rules being very prescriptive. After all they sound like the sort of family
that would set no win no fee lawyers on the council if after some accident
they found the gradient was 1:19.5 instead of 1:20.

Even an outdoor version of stair lift would have been cheaper, with a
hut at the bottom to store a wheel chair.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 14/02/2014 14:43, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399



http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

I wouldn't be surprised. The Council spokesman's comments are very much
along the lines of that is what she insisted upon, so that is what she got.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

I rather doubt it would pass a risk assessment though.

Colin Bignell

On 14 Feb 2014, "James Harris" grunted:

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-spent-74k-on-
thi
s-ridiculous-ramp-for-disabled-girl-katie-lally/story-fnixwvgh-
122682
7057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

Well, it does look safe and secure. Although an eyesore ISTM hard to
come up with a better solution.

If the family were beginning to face such issues I wonder if they
considered moving to somewhere that was more suitable to their needs.

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Yes, possibly. There was mention of a campaign by the family who live
in the house.

I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have
been better for the occupant to object at some point before the work
was completed. That might have saved money and time.

You'd think... first we learn of the mother's campaign to sort out the
access problem, and next thing she's 'devastated' by this 'atrocity'.
Are we to believe the council just pitched up one morning and built it
there and then without any further communication with the tenants?

And this cost 40 grand! I don't know what the building cost of a new
standard council house (on the level) would be, but that's got to be a
big chunk of it.


--
David

On 14/02/2014 16:38, Lobster wrote:
On 14 Feb 2014, "James Harris" grunted:
...
I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have
been better for the occupant to object at some point before the work
was completed. That might have saved money and time.

I suspect they had done a lot of objecting, which why the Council gave
them exactly what they asked for, if not exactly what they expected.

You'd think... first we learn of the mother's campaign to sort out the
access problem, and next thing she's 'devastated' by this 'atrocity'.
Are we to believe the council just pitched up one morning and built it
there and then without any further communication with the tenants?

And this cost 40 grand! I don't know what the building cost of a new
standard council house (on the level) would be, but that's got to be a
big chunk of it.

I think that one reason it is a sectional steel ramp, rather than being
cast concrete, is that, if the family move, it can be dismantled and
reused, probably to the benefit of half a dozen other houses.

BTW in all the Council guidelines I have managed to find, relocation to
a more suitable property is the first, preferred option. That implies
that either there was no such suitable site, or the family refused to
consider that option.

Colin Bignell

In article ,
Nightjar writes:

Looking at some Council guidelines, it appears that stair lifts may not
be considered suitable if the wheelchair user is a child.

Too much fun?

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In article ,
"Robin" writes:
How can the journalist make that a third floor flat?

Plagiarism. Other reports refer to 3 flights of stairs. If you av to
go up 3 flights of stairs to get to it then its a 3rd floor flat innit?

In most countries, the ground floor is the first floor.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 14/02/2014 15:52, Martin Brown wrote:

There are hard health and safety guidelines in the UK that the
council would have to obey and one of them for that rise is a 1:20
max slope with landings at least every 10m or so (I forget the exact
rules).

Finding them a house that was less mountainous would have been a much
more satisfactory solution for all concerned. This is a problem
caused by the rules being very prescriptive. After all they sound
like the sort of family that would set no win no fee lawyers on the
council if after some accident they found the gradient was 1:19.5
instead of 1:20.



I don't believe they are laws and the slope can be steeper than 1:20 as
long as a proper assessment has been done.

How can the journalist make that a third floor flat?

Plagiarism. Other reports refer to 3 flights of stairs. If you av
to go up 3 flights of stairs to get to it then its a 3rd floor flat
innit?

In most countries, the ground floor is the first floor.

The journalist was writing for Australia where I thought they still used
the Olde Englishe ground floor. But perhaps Tony Bryer will be by to
give an on-the-spot opinion (if he deigns to refer to places so far
beneath his loft abode)?

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) validBut

On 14/02/2014 16:38, Lobster wrote:

And this cost 40 grand! I don't know what the building cost of a new
standard council house (on the level) would be, but that's got to be a
big chunk of it.



About £40k.
A three bed detached costs about £45k.

Unless the council builds it.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:29:32 +0000 (UTC),
(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
"Robin" writes:
How can the journalist make that a third floor flat?

Plagiarism. Other reports refer to 3 flights of stairs. If you av to
go up 3 flights of stairs to get to it then its a 3rd floor flat innit?

In most countries, the ground floor is the first floor.

So it's not just Americans who are confused by the concept of zero in
counting floors in a multi-story building then?

There would seem to be some irony in the phrase "Ground Zero" as used
by the American breed.
--
Regards, J B Good

Nightjar wrote:

I think that one reason it is a sectional steel ramp, rather than being
cast concrete, is that, if the family move, it can be dismantled and
reused, probably to the benefit of half a dozen other houses.

Better hope there's no metal thieves in the area...

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"F Murtz" wrote in message
eb.com...

You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

Barking mad.
Socialists like to spend/waste other people's money.

Moscow metro style solution

http://vvcap.net/db/SSvpkuxe9UfcWS74Ls-9.htp






"harryagain" wrote in message ...


"F Murtz" wrote in message
eb.com...

You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

Barking mad.
Socialists like to spend/waste other people's money.

Jim K wrote:
One wonders why the council/the tenants didn't just move to
another less challenging house in the 2 years spent arguing
for access?

Or, judging from Google StreetView, just placing a horizontal
footpath sideways across the frontage of the council house to
the left which would meet the level of the road that rises to
the left; or a 1:30 ramp in the back garden to the road that
runs past the back garden.

jgh

"Robin" wrote in message
...
How can the journalist make that a third floor flat?

Plagiarism. Other reports refer to 3 flights of stairs. If you av
to go up 3 flights of stairs to get to it then its a 3rd floor flat
innit?

In most countries, the ground floor is the first floor.

The journalist was writing for Australia where I thought they still used
the Olde Englishe ground floor.

They do indeed.

But perhaps Tony Bryer will be by to give an on-the-spot opinion (if he
deigns to refer to places so far beneath his loft abode)?

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved that,
for a fraction of that cost.

Not really suitable for a child to use by themselves.

Would have made a lot more sense to move them to a
different council flat that had better wheelchair access.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
It happens that James Harris formulated :
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

Well, it does look safe and secure. Although an eyesore ISTM hard to come
up with a better solution.

If the family were beginning to face such issues I wonder if they
considered moving to somewhere that was more suitable to their needs.

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Yes, possibly. There was mention of a campaign by the family who live in
the house.

I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have been
better for the occupant to object at some point before the work was
completed. That might have saved money and time.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

That doesn't sound at all safe.

James

There hundreds off cable incline lifts.

None of the operated by children.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
It happens that James Harris formulated :
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

Well, it does look safe and secure. Although an eyesore ISTM hard to come
up with a better solution.

If the family were beginning to face such issues I wonder if they
considered moving to somewhere that was more suitable to their needs.

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Yes, possibly. There was mention of a campaign by the family who live in
the house.

I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have been
better for the occupant to object at some point before the work was
completed. That might have saved money and time.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

That doesn't sound at all safe.

James

There hundreds off cable incline lifts.

None of the operated by children.

"Lobster" wrote in message
. 222...
On 14 Feb 2014, "James Harris" grunted:

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-spent-74k-on-
thi
s-ridiculous-ramp-for-disabled-girl-katie-lally/story-fnixwvgh-
122682
7057399


http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

Well, it does look safe and secure. Although an eyesore ISTM hard to
come up with a better solution.

If the family were beginning to face such issues I wonder if they
considered moving to somewhere that was more suitable to their needs.

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Yes, possibly. There was mention of a campaign by the family who live
in the house.

I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have
been better for the occupant to object at some point before the work
was completed. That might have saved money and time.

You'd think... first we learn of the mother's campaign to sort out the
access problem, and next thing she's 'devastated' by this 'atrocity'.
Are we to believe the council just pitched up one morning and built it
there and then without any further communication with the tenants?

And this cost 40 grand! I don't know what the building cost of a new
standard council house (on the level) would be, but that's got to be a
big chunk of it.

It would cost them even less to move them to a council
flat that is much easier to provide wheelchair access to.

"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 14/02/2014 16:38, Lobster wrote:
On 14 Feb 2014, "James Harris" grunted:
..
I don't know what dialogue there was at the outset but it might have
been better for the occupant to object at some point before the work
was completed. That might have saved money and time.

I suspect they had done a lot of objecting, which why the Council gave
them exactly what they asked for, if not exactly what they expected.

You'd think... first we learn of the mother's campaign to sort out the
access problem, and next thing she's 'devastated' by this 'atrocity'.
Are we to believe the council just pitched up one morning and built it
there and then without any further communication with the tenants?

And this cost 40 grand! I don't know what the building cost of a new
standard council house (on the level) would be, but that's got to be a
big chunk of it.

I think that one reason it is a sectional steel ramp, rather than being
cast concrete, is that, if the family move, it can be dismantled and
reused, probably to the benefit of half a dozen other houses.

BTW in all the Council guidelines I have managed to find, relocation to a
more suitable property is the first, preferred option. That implies that
either there was no such suitable site,

Don't believe that in two years.

or the family refused to consider that option.

Then they should have been told that they were told about
the stairs when they decided that they wanted that flat.

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 14/02/2014 14:43, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Very probably but they don't have a lot of choice given the rules.

They clearly had the choice to move them to a more suitable council house.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

There are hard health and safety guidelines in the UK that the council
would have to obey and one of them for that rise is a 1:20 max slope with
landings at least every 10m or so (I forget the exact rules).

Finding them a house that was less mountainous would have been a much more
satisfactory solution for all concerned. This is a problem caused by the
rules being very prescriptive. After all they sound like the sort of
family that would set no win no fee lawyers on the council if after some
accident they found the gradient was 1:19.5 instead of 1:20.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Martin Brown explained :
On 14/02/2014 14:43, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

Very probably but they don't have a lot of choice given the rules.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

There are hard health and safety guidelines in the UK that the council
would have to obey and one of them for that rise is a 1:20 max slope with
landings at least every 10m or so (I forget the exact rules).

Finding them a house that was less mountainous would have been a much
more satisfactory solution for all concerned. This is a problem caused by
the rules being very prescriptive. After all they sound like the sort of
family that would set no win no fee lawyers on the council if after some
accident they found the gradient was 1:19.5 instead of 1:20.

Even an outdoor version of stair lift would have been cheaper, with a hut
at the bottom to store a wheel chair.

It would have been even cheaper to move them to a more suitable council
house.

"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 14/02/2014 14:43, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F Murtz formulated on Friday :
You pomms sure know how to build an access ramp for the disabled.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rea...-1226827057399



http://tinyurl.com/msm96qr

That is absolutely ridiculous!

I wonder if the council might have been brow beaten into doing that?

I wouldn't be surprised. The Council spokesman's comments are very much
along the lines of that is what she insisted upon, so that is what she
got.

They should have told her that given she had said that the stairs
were not a problem when they moved in, that her only option was
to be moved to a more suitable council house.

A pair of angle iron tracks and a suitable winch would have resolved
that, for a fraction of that cost.

I rather doubt it would pass a risk assessment though.

Particularly with a child using it unsupervised.

On 15/02/2014 05:19, Rod Speed wrote:


"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
....
BTW in all the Council guidelines I have managed to find, relocation
to a more suitable property is the first, preferred option. That
implies that either there was no such suitable site,

Don't believe that in two years.

Whatever you choose to believe, it is quite feasible.

or the family refused to consider that option.

Then they should have been told that they were told about
the stairs when they decided that they wanted that flat.

According to the news story, they believed that the steps were
acceptable when they first moved in. Presumably, they changed their
minds in the light of experience.

Colin Bignell

Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nightjar wrote

BTW in all the Council guidelines I have managed to find,
relocation to a more suitable property is the first, preferred
option. That implies that either there was no such suitable site,

Don't believe that in two years.

Whatever you choose to believe, it is quite feasible.

Bull****.

or the family refused to consider that option.

Then they should have been told that they were told about
the stairs when they decided that they wanted that flat.

According to the news story, they believed that the steps
were acceptable when they first moved in. Presumably,
they changed their minds in the light of experience.

They should have been told to try the stairs before they moved in.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:47:09 -0800 (PST), Jim K
wrote:


Looks to me like a 3M rise so 1:12 would be 36m (ie 30m).



A wheelchair lift might have been cheaper.

altho as garden had a flight of long steps up it quite where you'd put it I don;t know - Costs of excavating near house foundations or costs of "wobbly" tower by road and gantry over to house?

Council seem adamant that the family said they could manage stairs when they accepted the (presumably) council house...

One wonders why the council/the tenants didn't just move to another less challenging house in the 2 years spent arguing for access?

I wonder if this house is in a perceived better area than others offered?

Jim K


Didn't the Daily Wail article say they'd been moved there from another
property?
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