While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations


--
David

On 25/01/2014 14:51, Lobster wrote:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations



No chance. Humidity in a cubicle with insufficient ventilation equals
mildew. End of

"Lobster" wrote in message
. 222...
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations


You can buy "bathroom silicon" that is supposedly mould resistant.
Dunno how well it works.
You can also buy a plastic quadrant strip that covers the joint.

En el artículo , harryagain
escribió:

You can buy "bathroom silicon" that is supposedly mould resistant.

Did you even bother reading the OP? He said he'd done that.

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Lobster wrote:

While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

Would love to hear some recommendations

Dettol Mould and Mildew Remover almost certainly will get rid of it
after a treatment or three, but it's quite pungent and your SWMBO
might not like it...

....but it's a *lot* easier than stripping and resealing...

This is for a 3-pack, but read the reviews. Your local supermarket
should sell it for £3 a single trigger pack and well worth the punt
IMHO.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0080NN5XS

After getting rid of the current spate of black mould, using this
every say fortnight will keep it at bay. Cleaning tiles and grout
with this stuff brings them up like new... HTH.

--
Terry Fields

In message , Terry Fields
writes
Lobster wrote:

While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

Would love to hear some recommendations

Dettol Mould and Mildew Remover almost certainly will get rid of it
after a treatment or three, but it's quite pungent and your SWMBO
might not like it...

...but it's a *lot* easier than stripping and resealing...

This is for a 3-pack, but read the reviews. Your local supermarket
should sell it for £3 a single trigger pack and well worth the punt
IMHO.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0080NN5XS

After getting rid of the current spate of black mould, using this
every say fortnight will keep it at bay. Cleaning tiles and grout
with this stuff brings them up like new... HTH.

+1
--
bert

Fred wrote:

Give it a f'ckn rest [Bill], not welcome in uk.d-i-y

+1

And Scott and Dave wrote:

Anyone who uses the word 'cabal' and writes a mile of imprenetrable
self-obsessed, look-at-me, purple prose is singularly incapable of being
unbiased or sensible and, I have no doubt, buys into every conspiracy
theory going.

Are you talking about Gronmark or Bill? ;-)

+1 :-D


And finally[1], Roger wrote:

I'm more concerned with their factual inaccuracies! One of the news
items on R4 this morning claimed that the number of smokers in this
country was at an "all-time low".
How the hell do they define "all-time"?

Exactly. A recent growth industry has been that of the statisticians
.... which is fine, because statistics are an invaluable social tool.
However it's the way the MEDIA (and of course politicians, may god rot
their souls) selectively pick AND THEN REPORT statistics that is so
appalling. I'm certain that the originators of these figures (the
professional statisticians) must howl with rage when they see their work
reported in the media.

And as I've said elsewhere, tragically the BBC has become as tabloid as
the rest in recent years: as though they feel they need to "compete",
FFS!

John

[1]... thus jumping on to Bill latest trolling thread, and contradicting
my agreement with fred....

Fred wrote:

Give it a f'ckn rest [Bill], not welcome in uk.d-i-y

+1

....etc.

God - how embarrassing. Indignant reply in wrong thread. Bloody hell.
How embarrassing. [repeat ad nauseam]

J.

In article ],
Another John writes
Fred wrote:

Give it a f'ckn rest [Bill], not welcome in uk.d-i-y

+1

...etc.

God - how embarrassing. Indignant reply in wrong thread. Bloody hell.
How embarrassing. [repeat ad nauseam]

Hey, unfortunate delivery, however, sentiment appreciated :-D
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

On 25/01/2014 15:57, Terry Fields wrote:
Lobster wrote:

While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

Would love to hear some recommendations

Dettol Mould and Mildew Remover almost certainly will get rid of it
after a treatment or three, but it's quite pungent and your SWMBO
might not like it...

...but it's a *lot* easier than stripping and resealing...

This is for a 3-pack, but read the reviews. Your local supermarket
should sell it for £3 a single trigger pack and well worth the punt
IMHO.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0080NN5XS

After getting rid of the current spate of black mould, using this
every say fortnight will keep it at bay. Cleaning tiles and grout
with this stuff brings them up like new... HTH.

This stuff is fantastic;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HG-186050106...+mould+remover

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 25/01/2014 15:57, Terry Fields wrote:
Lobster wrote:

While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

Would love to hear some recommendations

Dettol Mould and Mildew Remover almost certainly will get rid of it
after a treatment or three, but it's quite pungent and your SWMBO
might not like it...

...but it's a *lot* easier than stripping and resealing...

This is for a 3-pack, but read the reviews. Your local supermarket
should sell it for £3 a single trigger pack and well worth the punt
IMHO.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0080NN5XS

After getting rid of the current spate of black mould, using this
every say fortnight will keep it at bay. Cleaning tiles and grout
with this stuff brings them up like new... HTH.

This stuff is fantastic;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000IU40HQ

(using the 'Share' link under the 'More Buying Choices' to give a
short url - a trick I learned on here ;-) )

I wonder if the OP would do a shoot-out of the two products, for the
benefit of the group, of course!

--
Terry Fields

On 26 Jan 2014, Terry Fields grunted:

The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 25/01/2014 15:57, Terry Fields wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due
to revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed
that I need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

Dettol Mould and Mildew Remover almost certainly will get rid of it
after a treatment or three, but it's quite pungent and your SWMBO
might not like it...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0080NN5XS

This stuff is fantastic;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000IU40HQ

I wonder if the OP would do a shoot-out of the two products, for the
benefit of the group, of course!

OK then, here you go (sort of!)

I've use the Dettox stuff a lot in the past, and have sworn by it; I've
always found it really good for cleaning up after tenants in rented-out
houses which they refuse to ventilate; very good for cleaning paintwork
and walls in particular. I find it certainly works to a certain degree
on silicone, but always leaves a fair amount of residual mould even
after repeated applications; for a complete and SWMBO-satisfying job
it's been necessary to strip out and replace. I do find it better than
using common-or-garden bleach, though.

So without much hope really, I bought a bottle of the HG product - I'll
try anything on the off chance it might avoid another weekend of
silicone removal

Anyway - I can now report that that after about a week of repeated
applications of the HG stuff, every last trace of mould has now vanished
from the shower tray. TMH is spot on; it's absolutely brilliant; I'd
never have believed it. Took some time; but no effort; just repeated
spraying.

So, not exactly a controlled head-to-head experiment; but I know from
years of experience with Dettox that no way would it have shifted this.
The two products are definitely different; eg the HG stuff contains
surfactant; it feels very soapy (not sure why that would make any
difference though).

Big thanks to TMH!

--
David

So without much hope really, I bought a bottle of the HG product - I'll
try anything on the off chance it might avoid another weekend of
silicone removal

Anyway - I can now report that that after about a week of repeated
applications of the HG stuff, every last trace of mould has now vanished
from the shower tray. TMH is spot on; it's absolutely brilliant; I'd
never have believed it. Took some time; but no effort; just repeated
spraying.


OK just ordered up a couple of cans of that and the associated grout
remover on yours and TMH's recommendation )...


So, not exactly a controlled head-to-head experiment; but I know from
years of experience with Dettox that no way would it have shifted this.
The two products are definitely different; eg the HG stuff contains
surfactant; it feels very soapy (not sure why that would make any
difference though).

Big thanks to TMH!


--
Tony Sayer

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:51:56 GMT, Lobster wrote:

I reckon that unless all the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped
down and dried each time (not going to happen),

In which case you are going to get mould. A squeegy down the
tiles/doors etc after *every* use and a wipe along any near
horizontal bits that collect water should be enough. If you can't be
arsed to keep things clean put up with the consequences...

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 25/01/14 15:52, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:51:56 GMT, Lobster wrote:

I reckon that unless all the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped
down and dried each time (not going to happen),

In which case you are going to get mould. A squeegy down the
tiles/doors etc after *every* use and a wipe along any near
horizontal bits that collect water should be enough. If you can't be
arsed to keep things clean put up with the consequences...

mild bleach, heating and ventilation.

Its STANDING water that really makes it happen..


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(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

En el artículo ,
Lobster escribió:

Would love to hear some recommendations

Spray bottle with thin bleach and a bit of water. Spray mould, leave
overnight, rinse off in the morning, mould gone.

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"Lobster" wrote in message
. 222...
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations

After a shower we just give the tiles etc a blast of "Daily Shower Cleaner".
A bottle costs about a quid and lasts ages.
We had a new bathroom 5 years ago and no mould has formed. The bathroom is
small.

Lobster wrote:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that
I need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening?

Yes - don't use silicone.

I know
I used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever
brand it was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily
pay £50 for a tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go
mouldy.

No such item exists, all silicone will go mouldy, no matter what the tube
says or how much it costs.
My B-I-L solved this by using a row of black tiles above his bath, sealed
with black silicone....whether there's any mould on it he doesn't know nor
care.


I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run,
and the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that
unless all the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and
dried each time (not going to happen), it's always going to be at
least a bit humid in there.

Would love to hear some recommendations

If you use white, it will go black unless you follow the suggestions posted
by others in this thread.
Mine has no silicone on view, so I don't care how black it may be.
My bath is sealed to old white tiles with white silicone, but I've clad the
entire thing in upvc, with no sealant to the bath edge.

In article , Lobster
scribeth thus
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations



Got this problem in the main gaff and the rented ones;(..

Seems no matter what you do the **** comes back one way or the other..

However over at SWMBO's mums house in France they have a tiled wall and
cast iron bath but the joint betwixt bath and wall tile is made with
sand and cement mortar and its never been a problem ever .. so her mum
says!...

--
Tony Sayer

Have you damaged the original smooth surface of the silicone by using
abrasive cleaners?


--

DerbyBorn

Dave Liquorice said:

I reckon that unless all the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped
down and dried each time (not going to happen),

... In which case you are going to get mould. A squeegy down the
tiles/doors etc after *every* use and a wipe along any near
horizontal bits that collect water should be enough. If you can't be
arsed to keep things clean put up with the consequences...

Oh man Dave! That sounds a bit harsh on the OP?

We consider our shower clean, and we squeegee its every single time we
use it. However we don't dry the joints with an old towel ... seems a
bit "anal" to me. OTOH we do have mould, and I suppose you are right,
but I think there's a difference between "clean" and "pristine"!

Maybe I should add "deep-clean shower" to my weekly housework list. :-(

J.

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:40:21 +0000, Another John wrote:

I reckon that unless all the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped
down and dried each time (not going to happen),

... In which case you are going to get mould. A squeegy down the
tiles/doors etc after *every* use and a wipe along any near horizontal
bits that collect water should be enough. If you can't be arsed to keep
things clean put up with the consequences...

Oh man Dave! That sounds a bit harsh on the OP?

We consider our shower clean, and we squeegee its every single time we
use it. However we don't dry the joints with an old towel ... seems a
bit "anal" to me. OTOH we do have mould, and I suppose you are right,
but I think there's a difference between "clean" and "pristine"!

FFS, we don't do ANY of that. We get out of the shower. Full stop. No
mould on the shower. No mould on the paintwork. No mould on the grout. No
mould on the sealant.

Once every while it gets a go-over with a spray-on limescale remover and
one of those soft pan-scourer sponges (hard water area)

Maybe I should add "deep-clean shower" to my weekly housework list. :-(

Or maybe you should address whatever the REAL problem is? Probably lack
of ventilation.

In article ,
Adrian wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:40:21 +0000, Another John wrote:
Maybe I should add "deep-clean shower" to my weekly housework list. :-(

Or maybe you should address whatever the REAL problem is? Probably lack
of ventilation.

I think you're right. I do have a (4") fan in the ceiling of the
bathroom, but the room is relatively large. I think I should bite the
bullet, make a hole in the back wall of the shower corner, and move the
fan there. (gasp: drilling a 4" hole through a cavity wall, at the top
of a ladder: yuck.)

John

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:51:56 PM UTC, Lobster wrote:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...
Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.
I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))
Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.
I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.
Would love to hear some recommendations

Easy. Apply bogroll, apply bleach, leave overnight. It may take a few applications to look like new again


NT

On 25/01/2014 22:39, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:51:56 PM UTC, Lobster wrote:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...
Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.
I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))
Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.
I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.
Would love to hear some recommendations

Easy. Apply bogroll, apply bleach, leave overnight. It may take a few applications to look like new again


NT

Following advice read here, some time ago, we keep and old towel in the
shower cubicle (we remove it outside when actually showering of course),
then after showering we wipe the glass and tile down. this keeps the
mould almost totally at bay, it has the added advantage of keeping the
water marks off the glass doors as well. After quite some time a little
mould appears, I have found that "HG mould spray" is the best product I
have found for removing the mould. I have not needed to replace the
sealant for several years since following this method.

On 25/01/2014 22:39, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 2:51:56 PM UTC, Lobster wrote:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query... Yet
again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed
that I need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again. I
remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about
the best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was
only 2 years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a
very long time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or
https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ)) Is there no definitive answer
to stopping this from happening? I know I used fungicidal
sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it was, it
was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy. I'm
sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run,
and the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that
unless all the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and
dried each time (not going to happen), it's always going to be at
least a bit humid in there. Would love to hear some
recommendations

Easy. Apply bogroll, apply bleach, leave overnight. It may take a few
applications to look like new again


NT


The OP has already intimated that any effort on his part isn't going to
happen. Not that I blame him for being realistic. The trick is to
minimise the time it takes. A squeegee might help

In article ,
Lobster writes:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations

Using bars of soap in hard water areas in the shower doesn't help
this. The resulting thin layer of soap scum tends to go mouldy.
Liquid soaps don't generate an insoluable scum.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In article ,
Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Using bars of soap in hard water areas in the shower doesn't help
this. The resulting thin layer of soap scum tends to go mouldy.
Liquid soaps don't generate an insoluable scum.


Often hear of people using car wax to a) make most water run off and b) stop
prevent the water actually getting to the stuff the mould can grow on.

Not tried it myself, but I can see that a thin layer of something like
collinite 476 may help. Certainly the water dislikes staying on my car
after a coat of that :-)

Use something like collinite and it'll last for months (last did my car
in Sept, can still see it beading up now).

Let us know how it works if you try it :-)

Darren

Would love to hear some recommendations

Using bars of soap in hard water areas in the shower doesn't help
this. The resulting thin layer of soap scum tends to go mouldy.
Liquid soaps don't generate an insoluable scum.


Totally agree - bar soap is vile stuff that leaves a greasy scum. I use
Sanex and never "have" to clean anyting in the shower

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On 26/01/2014 14:29, DerbyBorn wrote:

Would love to hear some recommendations

Using bars of soap in hard water areas in the shower doesn't help
this. The resulting thin layer of soap scum tends to go mouldy.
Liquid soaps don't generate an insoluable scum.


Totally agree - bar soap is vile stuff that leaves a greasy scum. I use
Sanex and never "have" to clean anyting in the shower


IIRC potassium (rather than sodium) hydroxide is used to make liquid soaps

On 25/01/2014 14:51, Lobster wrote:
While I'm sorting out the bathroom, here's another query...

Yet again, the silicone sealant in the shower needs replacing due to
revolting buildup of black mould/mildew, and It Has Been Decreed that I
need to scrape it all out and replace it. Yet again.

I remember posting about this godawful job before (actually about the
best way of removing the old silicone), just checked and it was only 2
years ago (and the problems's already been back again for a very long
time (http://tinyurl.com/6txmgqv (or https://groups.google.com/forum/?
hl=en#!topic/uk.d-i-y/Vi7Ze9fnONQ))

Is there no definitive answer to stopping this from happening? I know I
used fungicidal sanitary-grade silicone last time, but whatever brand it
was, it was clearly rubbish. I can tell you - I'd happily pay £50 for a
tube that was absolutely guaranteed never, ever to go mouldy.

I'm sure ventilation is an issue; there's a shower fan on over-run, and
the door is always left open; but to be honest, I reckon that unless all
the surfaces in the shower cubicle are wiped down and dried each time
(not going to happen), it's always going to be at least a bit humid in
there.

Would love to hear some recommendations

I have a small bathroom that gets wringing wet every day following a hot
shower. Probably about twice a year, when the management decrees, I
take a toothbrush, neat domestic bleach in a saucer and a fan to waft
the fumes away. Tackle all the black on sealant and tiles, then clean
the tiles and shower with ordinary bathroom cleaner and it will look
like new.

My bathroom is about 40 years old and I started this regime only a
couple of years ago. Always comes up great. Prior to that I had
periodically re-grouted and resealed when the management decreed it was
too dirty. Have to paint ceiling and woodwork periodically of course.


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