It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they will
be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large box in
the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can to
subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of my way to do this.

Bill

Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

Tim

On 19/12/2013 07:41, Tim+ wrote:

Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

I noticed last time I was in Wales (Nov 2011) that there were far fewer
bags blowing around, (as you describe). I think they had had the 5p
charge imposed earlier that year ?

We didn't know, until we went to get our weekly shop at a local
Sainsburys, and ended up unnecessarily paying about 50p for bags, which
was a bit of a disappointment seeing as back home we had a cupboard
full of them, like Bill, we keep them, and use them for all manner of
other things.


--
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In message , Mark Carver
writes
On 19/12/2013 07:41, Tim+ wrote:

Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

I noticed last time I was in Wales (Nov 2011) that there were far fewer
bags blowing around, (as you describe). I think they had had the 5p
charge imposed earlier that year ?

We didn't know, until we went to get our weekly shop at a local
Sainsburys, and ended up unnecessarily paying about 50p for bags, which
was a bit of a disappointment seeing as back home we had a cupboard
full of them, like Bill, we keep them, and use them for all manner of
other things.

We certainly re-use plastic bags until they become holed - then if
they're not too bad, they get used as liners for the kitchen waste bin.
However, these days, some bags (especially Waitrose) are so flimsy and
thin that you are lucky to get even a single use out of them. Anything
they carry which has sharp corners invariably puts large holes in them,
rendering them unsuitable for any form re-use. Even the more-substantial
pay-for bags are often nowhere near as robust as they used to be.
--
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In article ,
lid says...

I noticed last time I was in Wales (Nov 2011) that there were far fewer
bags blowing around, (as you describe). I think they had had the 5p
charge imposed earlier that year ?


5p charge came in on 1/10/2011.

It's no big deal, thought we are slowly running through our stock of
"throw-away" bags which we use & re-use over & over.



--
Sam

"Tim+" wrote in message
...

Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

It's perverse the way dog owners hang their bags of dog **** from branches.
They'll just stay the if the dog deposited its excrement on the ground it
would be gobbles up in a trice.

--
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On 19/12/13 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
"Tim+" wrote in message
...

Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

It's perverse the way dog owners hang their bags of dog **** from branches.
They'll just stay the if the dog deposited its excrement on the ground it
would be gobbles up in a trice.

+1


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members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
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diminishing number of producers.

"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Tim+" wrote in message
...

Only half agree. Without doubt, many (?most) people recycle their
plastic
bags but I walk my dogs on a beach every morning and from Easter until
the
autumn, the beach is littered with supermarket bags. Also, when I'm
running along country lanes the hedgerows and ditches are clogged with
bags. Anything that can be done to lessen this blight gets my vote.

It's perverse the way dog owners hang their bags of dog **** from
branches.

Do they really

can't say that I've ever seen it

do your parks not have those doggie-crap bins?

tim

tim...... wrote:
doggie-crap bins?


FLED bins.

The Fleds aren't very good at putting crap in them.

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they will
be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large box in
the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****, clinical
waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing, disposable
nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things. When they
are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from much thicker
plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I will be able
to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost me nothing but
will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get onto it. The
greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can to
subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of my way
to do this.

Bill

Excellent news, should have been done years ago.
I think you are a stupid ****.
Why don'tyou take a proper bag to the supermarket when shopping or don't you
have the foresight?
The fact that you have to store vast quantities, indicates you get far more
than you need.
We haven't used supermarket bags for years.

Supermarket bags are quite unsuitable for most of the uses you put them to
anyway.

On 19/12/2013 07:41, harryagain wrote:

Why don'tyou take a proper bag to the supermarket when shopping or don't you
have the foresight?

I keep around 6 laundry bags (each approx 2x carrier bag capacity) in
the back of the car and use them 4/5 years before they have to be
chucked away. 95% of my supermarket shopping is transported in these bags.
Example - smallest size in link
http://tinyurl.com/ptufj8m


Supermarket bags are quite unsuitable for most of the uses you put them to
anyway.

I do recycle all supermarket bags that I do get in the same way as Bill
does.

From what I've read, in countries that have introduced charging the
usage has gone down but sales of other plastic bags has risen. I doubt
if any less plastic goes to land fill.

If the greenies really want to save the planet let them campaign to make
all unsoliced snail junk mail illegal. I shred all the leaflets and
junk that comes through my letter box and compost it. I get a sackful of
paper per month (7 A4 sheets of glossy paper so far today and the
postman hasn't made a delivery yet).


--
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On 19/12/2013 14:08, alan wrote:
On 19/12/2013 07:41, harryagain wrote:

Why don'tyou take a proper bag to the supermarket when shopping or
don't you
have the foresight?

I keep around 6 laundry bags (each approx 2x carrier bag capacity) in
the back of the car and use them 4/5 years before they have to be
chucked away. 95% of my supermarket shopping is transported in these bags.
Example - smallest size in link
http://tinyurl.com/ptufj8m


Supermarket bags are quite unsuitable for most of the uses you put
them to
anyway.

I do recycle all supermarket bags that I do get in the same way as Bill
does.

From what I've read, in countries that have introduced charging the
usage has gone down but sales of other plastic bags has risen. I doubt
if any less plastic goes to land fill.

If the greenies really want to save the planet let them campaign to make
all unsoliced snail junk mail illegal. I shred all the leaflets and
junk that comes through my letter box and compost it. I get a sackful of
paper per month (7 A4 sheets of glossy paper so far today and the
postman hasn't made a delivery yet).



We've all got used to Aldi and Lidl not handing out bags for free, and I
admire them for sticking to their guns (unlike the big supermarkets)

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:40:27 PM UTC, stuart noble wrote:
We've all got used to Aldi and Lidl not handing out bags for free, and I
admire them for sticking to their guns (unlike the big supermarkets)

Last time I was in Aldi I objected to paying for a bag so I bought a bucket for 99p instead.

Owain

harryagain wrote:

I think you are a stupid ****.

That's my arguments skilfully demolished then.

Why don'tyou take a proper bag to the supermarket when shopping or don't you
have the foresight?

I prefer to have cooked meats and fish in individual bags. I buy fresh
bread which needs to be bagged. I buy fresh veg which I like to bring
home in separate bags. In the past I have put tinned stuff, etc,
straight into my own bags, but from now on I will get as many
supermarket bags as I can.

The fact that you have to store vast quantities, indicates you get far more
than you need.

I don't have to store vast quantities. Why would anyone? Anyone with too
many bags would presumably throw them in the bin. I am endeavouring to
accumulate a vast quantity so that when they are 5p each I will have
plenty to last me.


Supermarket bags are quite unsuitable for most of the uses you put them to
anyway.

In that case why would I use them?

Bill

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000 Bill Wright wrote :
I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they
can to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go
out of my way to do this.

Not just greens:

"Shoppers are to be charged 5p for plastic bags in supermarkets and
other large stores. The move by ministers is a victory for the Daily
Mail’s Banish the Bags campaign which has highlighted the menace of
carrier bags."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dered-act.html

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on',
Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com

"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.


The daft bit is that plastic could be replaced with recycled paper which will, in time, biodegrade, but they are going to charge for them as well!

By the way Bill, you forgot the newspapers that you put out in them for recycling. Now there's a paradox if ever there was one.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Woody wrote:

By the way Bill, you forgot the newspapers that you put out in them for
recycling. Now there's a paradox if ever there was one.

The ******* mardy binmen carefully removed a cardboard drink container
from my recycling and threw it on the ground. Presumably it is because
it is waxed. They could just have easily have put it in the adjacent
grey bin. But no, they like to be officious ****s. That's their
Christmas tip cancelled.

Bill

On 19/12/2013 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large

ITYM you don't like it because it conflicts with your "trash the planet
for fun and profit" paranoid right wingnut beliefs.

I think stupid right whingers are far more dangerous to the environment.

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not
automatically make it wrong. There are way too many plastic bags and for
that matter disposable take away meal containers in the hedgerows.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Bill

You sound like the typical paranoid right whinger.
It might surprise you to know that you are at odds with the Daily Wail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dered-act.html

What is less well known is that the latest generation of plastic carrier
bags are somewhat biodegradable over time and as such not quite the long
term nuisance that the older ones were.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 19/12/2013 08:17, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/12/2013 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large

ITYM you don't like it because it conflicts with your "trash the planet
for fun and profit" paranoid right wingnut beliefs.

I think stupid right whingers are far more dangerous to the environment.

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not
automatically make it wrong. There are way too many plastic bags and for
that matter disposable take away meal containers in the hedgerows.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Bill

You sound like the typical paranoid right whinger.
It might surprise you to know that you are at odds with the Daily Wail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dered-act.html


What is less well known is that the latest generation of plastic carrier
bags are somewhat biodegradable over time and as such not quite the long
term nuisance that the older ones were.


I dug out some stuff from the loft the other day. A supermarket bag from
20 years ago was in VERY tiny pieces despite being stored in total
darkness. I suspected a mouse at first but other plastic bags were still
intact

In message , stuart noble
writes

What is less well known is that the latest generation of plastic carrier
bags are somewhat biodegradable over time and as such not quite the long
term nuisance that the older ones were.


I dug out some stuff from the loft the other day. A supermarket bag
from 20 years ago was in VERY tiny pieces despite being stored in total
darkness. I suspected a mouse at first but other plastic bags were
still intact

Tesco went through a period with those things, the bane of the tidy
storage classes. Dreadful idea. Paper good, decaying plastic awful.

Is the charge for bags planned for just supermarkets, or will it apply
to all shops? I asked in the local chippy and they said it didn't apply
to them.
--
Bill

"Bill" wrote in message
...

Is the charge for bags planned for just supermarkets, or will it apply to
all shops? I asked in the local chippy and they said it didn't apply to
them.

There is a number of exceptions:
"Axe-men and goldfish enthusiasts among those to escape 5p bag levy"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25240097

--
Max Demian

I dug out some stuff from the loft the other day. A supermarket bag
from 20 years ago was in VERY tiny pieces despite being stored in
total darkness. I suspected a mouse at first but other plastic bags
were still intact

Mi casa, su casa.
Tesco bags in my case.


--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

In article ,
stuart noble wrote:

I dug out some stuff from the loft the other day. A supermarket bag from
20 years ago was in VERY tiny pieces despite being stored in total
darkness. I suspected a mouse at first but other plastic bags were still
intact



Tesco ones? They had a spell of "degradable" (they carefully avoided saying
"Biodegradable" I noticed - not sure of the implications there!) bags - we
had a load in the office. The ones that had day light were ok, the ones
in the dark almost turned to powder when you touched them.

I assume the UV kept the plastic ok in some way? I thought it was normally
the other way around but then some white paint yellows indoors so I guess
it's similar?

Darren

D.M.Chapman wrote:

stuart noble wrote:

I dug out some stuff from the loft the other day. A supermarket bag from
20 years ago was in VERY tiny pieces

Tesco ones? They had a spell of "degradable" (they carefully avoided saying
"Biodegradable"

Yep, had those fall to bits in flakes

One of my magazine subscriptions comes in a plastic wrap which it
describes as "oxidegradable".

In article ,
stuart noble wrote:

I dug out some stuff from the loft the other day. A supermarket bag from
20 years ago was in VERY tiny pieces despite being stored in total
darkness. I suspected a mouse at first but other plastic bags were still
intact

Try a Wilkinson's bag from 20 minutes^W months ago, one day I'll learn not to
bother even trying to "reuse" in the "reduce, reuse, recycle" with them,
as they are lightning quick biodegraders.

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...

What is less well known is that the latest generation of plastic carrier
bags are somewhat biodegradable over time and as such not quite the long
term nuisance that the older ones were.

I hate the 'degradable' bags. Especially when they encourage you to re-use
them - put them away and they fall apart by the time you use them. Ryman's
are bad in this way.

--
Max Demian

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 19/12/2013 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large

ITYM you don't like it because it conflicts with your "trash the planet
for fun and profit" paranoid right wingnut beliefs.

I think stupid right whingers are far more dangerous to the environment.

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not automatically
make it wrong. There are way too many plastic bags and for that matter
disposable take away meal containers in the hedgerows.

It's wrong because it's irrelevant to the environment [1] and means you have
to carry a pocket of plastic bags around just in case you decide to buy
something on the spur of the moment.

[1] 0.27% of landfill: http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/12709

"Plastic bags are an outward reflection of the ease with which people can
buy goods and take them home. People now have the disposable income to enter
a shop unexpectedly and buy a load of stuff, and plastic bags mean they can
rest assured they will have the means to carry their purchases. How often do
people returning home from work decide, on a whim, to make a quick stop at
Tesco Express to buy a few items of food? How frequently, perhaps on a
journey past Oxford Street, are we drawn into a sale by a piece of
attractive clobber? Such nonchalant consumption would be made more
difficult, perhaps more expensive, without shops' provision of handy, free
plastic bags."

--
Max Demian

"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 19/12/2013 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large

ITYM you don't like it because it conflicts with your "trash the planet
for fun and profit" paranoid right wingnut beliefs.

I think stupid right whingers are far more dangerous to the environment.

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not automatically
make it wrong. There are way too many plastic bags and for that matter
disposable take away meal containers in the hedgerows.

It's wrong because it's irrelevant to the environment [1] and means you
have to carry a pocket of plastic bags around just in case you decide to
buy something on the spur of the moment.

[1] 0.27% of landfill: http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/12709

"Plastic bags are an outward reflection of the ease with which people can
buy goods and take them home. People now have the disposable income to
enter a shop unexpectedly and buy a load of stuff, and plastic bags mean
they can rest assured they will have the means to carry their purchases.
How often do people returning home from work decide, on a whim, to make a
quick stop at Tesco Express to buy a few items of food? How frequently,
perhaps on a journey past Oxford Street, are we drawn into a sale by a
piece of attractive clobber? Such nonchalant consumption would be made
more difficult, perhaps more expensive, without shops' provision of handy,
free plastic bags."

--
Max Demian


Bollix.
All you have to do is keep a proper bag or two in the car.
They should be charging £1 each for plastic bags.

Martin Brown wrote:

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not
automatically make it wrong.

It almost does. If you subtract the beliefs that are generally held from
the greens' beliefs what's left is almost entirely ********.

You sound like the typical paranoid right whinger.

That isn't an argument.

Bill

"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2013-12-19, Martin Brown wrote:
On 19/12/2013 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large

ITYM you don't like it because it conflicts with your "trash the planet
for fun and profit" paranoid right wingnut beliefs.

Actually, he's right, even if he is mad.

I think stupid right whingers are far more dangerous to the environment.

Just because the greens are in favour of something does not
automatically make it wrong.

So, you're a hypocrite, too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dered-act.html


The DM is a good comic. Nearly as good as the DT.
A laugh on every page.

On 19/12/13 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Bill

we now have about 5 hessian ones bought at the S/market and they work
just fine.

SWMBO steals the one the vegetables go in for use as general storage.

Golly. Hessian wasn't in the dictionary the spell checker uses. Except
capitalised.


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members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On Thursday, 19 December 2013 09:48:28 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

snip

Golly. Hessian wasn't in the dictionary the spell checker uses. Except
capitalised.


Cough, splutter - you use a spell checker?!?! since when?? ;)))

Jim K

On 19/12/13 22:17, Jim K wrote:
On Thursday, 19 December 2013 09:48:28 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

snip

Golly. Hessian wasn't in the dictionary the spell checker uses. Except
capitalised.


Cough, splutter - you use a spell checker?!?! since when?? ;)))

Jim K

since when I can actually be bothered ..

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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

Surely these days most bags seem to just disintegrate in any case. I thought
this idea had fixed the problem. If they want to stop crap they need to get
real about getting rid of packaging that cannot have other uses unlike bags.
That transparent hard see through stuff for a start, they said it could not
be done, but I notice Duracell have got rid of it, and others should take
note i feel.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they will
be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large box in
the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****, clinical
waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing, disposable
nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things. When they
are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from much thicker
plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I will be able
to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost me nothing but
will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get onto it. The
greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can to
subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of my way
to do this.

Bill

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Surely these days most bags seem to just disintegrate in any case. I
thought this idea had fixed the problem. If they want to stop crap they
need to get real about getting rid of packaging that cannot have other
uses unlike bags.
That transparent hard see through stuff for a start, they said it could
not be done, but I notice Duracell have got rid of it, and others should
take note i feel.
Brian



They never totally disappear.
They eventually go into fine dust which ends up in the sea and is ingested
by marine creautres to their detriment.
http://www.pollutionissues.co.uk/imp...-bags-sea.html

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Whatever happened to conventional shopping bags? We have always used
them rather than the throw-away plastic ones. They aren't expensive
and will soon pay for themselves at 5p a use. Plus they don't suddenly
tear when carrying heavy bottles.

On 19/12/2013 10:46, lid wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Whatever happened to conventional shopping bags? We have always used
them rather than the throw-away plastic ones. They aren't expensive
and will soon pay for themselves at 5p a use. Plus they don't suddenly
tear when carrying heavy bottles.
Obviously in the era of conventional shopping bags you just have a
memory but you did not experience it or have a very bad memory.
In those days there where local Butchers, grocers, Bakers etc. as well
as the Grocer/Wet fish vans, that travelled the streets. These where
walk-able so popping out with your conventional bag to get the
provisions every day was not a problem and you could carry a couple of
bags home, all food in those days came in paper bags.
Unfortionatly Supermarkets came along and destroyed the local shops so
rather than pop out to the local shops you had to travel to a
supermarket, supermarkets only have one shop in a town so then you had
to buy a car to get to the Supermarket and transport your goods back
home, carrying 5 or 6 shopping bags on a bus is not the easy.
If you are not able to just pop out to a shop as and when but to have to
travel a few miles to the supermarket one would obviously try to get
enough to last several days rather than incur the expensive travelling
costs in your car.
Times move on and in the modern day life we have to shop the way we have
been conditioned to, I personally if I can carry the goods in my hands I
refuse a bag, if I can't carry them and are charged for a bag I would
probably just walk out, unless I am in Aldi of course.

Barry

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Corporal Jones
wrote:

On 19/12/2013 10:46, lid wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:00:57 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a
large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog
****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of
things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and
I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will
cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will
get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Whatever happened to conventional shopping bags? We have always used
them rather than the throw-away plastic ones.

Nothing happened to conventional shopping bags. We have half a dozen
that we take to the supermarket each time.

I think you are talking about carrier bags of some kind. Actual
"conventional shopping bags" are big things, usually of cloth and perhaps
leather handles. You would only expect to carry one.

--
Max Demian

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Max Demian
wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

Nothing happened to conventional shopping bags. We have half a dozen
that we take to the supermarket each time.

I think you are talking about carrier bags of some kind. Actual
"conventional shopping bags" are big things, usually of cloth and perhaps
leather handles. You would only expect to carry one.

Actually the "bags for life". But why would I be carrying them? What
d'ye think the shopping trolley is for, eh?

No I'm not talking about "bags for life". They are just thick carrier bags.

--
Max Demian

On 19/12/2013 06:00, Bill Wright wrote:
It's time start saving your supermarket bags. From next October they
will be 5p each. This is because of the stupid greenies. I have a large
box in the basement and I put my bags in there. I use them for dog ****,
clinical waste, badly soiled laundry, bowls of food for freezing,
disposable nappies, collecting apples and tomatoes, all sorts of things.
When they are banned I will have to buy bags. These will be made from
much thicker plastic so will cause more waste. I've made enquiries and I
will be able to get bags for clinical waste from the NHS. This will cost
me nothing but will cost the taxpayers a lot, because everyone will get
onto it. The greenies are stupid ****s.

I think it is the duty of all right-thinking people to do all they can
to subvert and sabotage all greeny-influenced legislation. I go out of
my way to do this.

Couldn't disagree with you more.