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I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?
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I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?

All more or less the same really. Fused outlet and three T&E rally needs
a 35mm back box. I've just done one in a 25mm box and it was very tight.
I could not find one where the wire came out the front of the plate
which would have left more room.
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On Wednesday 31 July 2013 20:36 DerbyBorn wrote in uk.d-i-y:

I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?


All accessories can take 3 2.5mm2 cables by design (it's in the standards
somewhere, I think). This has been true forever more of less.

What buggers you up is the despth of the backbox. 35mm is easy. 25mm deep is
usually OK but can get a little cramped depending on how the cables come in
and the size of the accessory gubbins.

Are you taking the fused load cable out the back as twin+earth? Don't forget
you can make that cable smaller - eg 1.5mm2 as it is fused at 13A or less.

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On Wednesday 31 July 2013 20:36 DerbyBorn wrote in uk.d-i-y:

I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As
there are 3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on
whether any makes of accessories are better than others at
accomodating 3 cables - or are they all similar now?


All accessories can take 3 2.5mm2 cables by design (it's in the
standards somewhere, I think). This has been true forever more of
less.

What buggers you up is the despth of the backbox. 35mm is easy. 25mm
deep is usually OK but can get a little cramped depending on how the
cables come in and the size of the accessory gubbins.

Are you taking the fused load cable out the back as twin+earth? Don't
forget you can make that cable smaller - eg 1.5mm2 as it is fused at
13A or less.


I want the cable to come out of the back (side knock-out) - it is a feed to
a cooker hood. Currently it is a plug socket but I want to hide it behind
something so I want a flat plate fused spur. The box is 35mm and is fairly
well recessed.
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:36:41 GMT, DerbyBorn wrote:

I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?


When I needed a 2-gang, 2-way switch plate to take rather a lot of wires I
remembered that an MK Logic Plus had angled terminals, so I got the switch -
much easier than standard teminals.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-13a-dp-...on-white/58085

BTW, at one time the SF page for the unswitched sockets in the same range
claimed them to be double pole!
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On 31/07/2013 20:36, DerbyBorn wrote:
I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?


I quite liked a double 13 amp socket that I bought recently because the
three terminal screws could all be accessed from the top.

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On 31/07/2013 20:36, DerbyBorn wrote:
I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?


The TLC GET Ultimate range usually have nice wide square terminals that
make 3 or 4 wires relatively easy.


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On 01/08/2013 00:23, Michael Chare wrote:
On 31/07/2013 20:36, DerbyBorn wrote:
I need to replace a single 13 amp socket with a fused outlet. As there
are
3 cables in the socket I would appreciate your advice on whether any
makes
of accessories are better than others at accomodating 3 cables - or are
they all similar now?


I quite liked a double 13 amp socket that I bought recently because the
three terminal screws could all be accessed from the top.


+1 A decent MK socket can save 10s of minutes of complete frustration.
In the past I've used sockets of a lesser design and found them
extremely difficult to fit, especially if there isn't of wire in the
back box.

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