Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and
Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any
decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I read. Also
if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe
http://www.aioe.org/

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 02/07/2013 09:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and
Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any
decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I read. Also
if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe
http://www.aioe.org/

Another is Teranews which requires a one time fee of I think $5 to sign
up for an ID on their text only groups. They will try to sell you an
upgrade to all binaries for a while afterwards. It isn't quite perfect
and I keep AOIE as a backup server (but that censors posting to some
innocuous UK groups like uk.rec.gardening for some strange reason).

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't
convinced. Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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On 02/07/2013 09:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and
Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any
decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I read. Also
if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe
http://www.aioe.org/

Another is Teranews which requires a one time fee of I think $5 to sign up
for an ID on their text only groups. They will try to sell you an upgrade
to all binaries for a while afterwards. It isn't quite perfect and I keep
AOIE as a backup server (but that censors posting to some innocuous UK
groups like uk.rec.gardening for some strange reason).

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't convinced.

what's wrong with their T&C?

From my pov the only thing wrong with NIN is the aggro of paying the trivial
amount that it costs.

Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV

it goes down occasionally

tim

On 02/07/2013 10:29, tim..... wrote:

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 02/07/2013 09:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and
Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as
DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any
decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I read.
Also
if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe
http://www.aioe.org/

Another is Teranews which requires a one time fee of I think $5 to
sign up for an ID on their text only groups. They will try to sell you
an upgrade to all binaries for a while afterwards. It isn't quite
perfect and I keep AOIE as a backup server (but that censors posting
to some innocuous UK groups like uk.rec.gardening for some strange
reason).

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't convinced.

what's wrong with their T&C?

From my pov the only thing wrong with NIN is the aggro of paying the
trivial amount that it costs.

Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV

it goes down occasionally

tim


True - and sometimes it seems to have short periods when nothing comes
through despite nothing appearing to be broken. Overall am satisfied.
But its spam removal is generally excellent. I see more spam when people
reply to it than it its original form - by miles.

--
Rod

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:47:39 +0100
Martin Brown wrote:

On 02/07/2013 09:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all


snip

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I
read. Also if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe
http://www.aioe.org/

Another is Teranews which requires a one time fee of I think $5 to
sign up for an ID on their text only groups. They will try to sell
you an upgrade to all binaries for a while afterwards. It isn't quite
perfect and I keep AOIE as a backup server (but that censors posting
to some innocuous UK groups like uk.rec.gardening for some strange
reason).

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't
convinced. Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV


I tried Teranews a few years ago, and it just plain didn't work. I
wasn't the only one with the same trouble, so it wasn't a simple problem
at my end. I just moved on, but I will never try them again.
Eternal-September had a problem a few months ago, but it was fixed
within a few days. While it was on, though, they were dead in the
water. I put it in the 'You try to run a big news-server and do any
better' category; after all, it's free. I have them as my backup
server, but they don't do binaries.
--
Davey.

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:47:39 +0100, Martin Brown wrote:

On 02/07/2013 09:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I read.
Also if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe http://www.aioe.org/

Another is Teranews which requires a one time fee of I think $5 to sign
up for an ID on their text only groups. They will try to sell you an
upgrade to all binaries for a while afterwards. It isn't quite perfect
and I keep AOIE as a backup server (but that censors posting to some
innocuous UK groups like uk.rec.gardening for some strange reason).

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't
convinced. Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV

What is it about the NIN T&C you don't like? I doubt that I've ever read them, and I've been with them for ~16
years. The service is excellent and well worth the 10 euro per annum.



--
Terry Fields

On 02/07/2013 16:24, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Terry Fields wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:47:39 +0100, Martin Brown wrote:

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't
convinced. Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV

What is it about the NIN T&C you don't like? I doubt that I've ever
read them, and I've been with them for ~16 years. The service is
excellent and well worth the 10 euro per annum.

+1

++

--
Reentrant

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:54:07 +0100, Reentrant wrote:

On 02/07/2013 16:24, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Terry Fields
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:47:39 +0100, Martin Brown wrote:

Many people recommend NIN but after reading their T&C I wasn't
convinced. Technically it seems pretty good though. YMMV

What is it about the NIN T&C you don't like? I doubt that I've ever
read them, and I've been with them for ~16 years. The service is
excellent and well worth the 10 euro per annum.

+1

++

+=1




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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

+1

Never had a problem in 3+ years now.

I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news service,
no doubt other ISPs are too.

In article ,
Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service, no doubt other ISPs are too.

TalkTalk switched from a 'free' news provider to one where an extra fee
was required. I responded by switching ISP.
I suppose it is understandable since fewer are using news providers.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 02/07/13 09:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service, no doubt other ISPs are too.
TalkTalk switched from a 'free' news provider to one where an extra fee
was required. I responded by switching ISP.
I suppose it is understandable since fewer are using news providers.

I've got a free account with albasani.net as my headers reveal. Its good
enough for the few groups I peruse.


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On 02/07/2013 10:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/07/13 09:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service, no doubt other ISPs are too.
TalkTalk switched from a 'free' news provider to one where an extra fee
was required. I responded by switching ISP.
I suppose it is understandable since fewer are using news providers.

I've got a free account with albasani.net as my headers reveal. Its good
enough for the few groups I peruse.


Thanks to all respondents.

Posting made via eternal-september.

Phil

On 02/07/2013 10:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I've got a free account with albasani.net as my headers reveal. Its good
enough for the few groups I peruse.

me too

i've got a giganews account with my landline ISP. Trouble is I'm
relocating for work, and having to use a mobile dongle.No news with
Three, and they couldn't tell me their outgoing mail server either. (a
nice man from Plusnet told me what it is)

Andy

In article ,
Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

+1

Never had a problem in 3+ years now.

Another +1 for Eternal September here.

I moved when Entanets started to get crappy and have not looked
back.

Gordon

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:53:59 +0100, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service,
no doubt other ISPs are too.

Strange, I'm coming to you via Virginmedia's news service!

TOJ.

On 02/07/2013 12:47, The Other John wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:53:59 +0100, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service,
no doubt other ISPs are too.

Strange, I'm coming to you via Virginmedia's news service!

TOJ.

Is that the text-only server?

--
Rod

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:54:15 +0100, polygonum wrote:

Is that the text-only server?

How can you tell? I only see text. How do binaries show up?

TOJ.

polygonum wrote:
On 02/07/2013 12:47, The Other John wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:53:59 +0100, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service,
no doubt other ISPs are too.

Strange, I'm coming to you via Virginmedia's news service!

TOJ.

Is that the text-only server?


No.

--
AC

On 02/07/2013 09:53, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

+1

Never had a problem in 3+ years now.

I'd advise anyone using their ISP news "service" to switch to a free
dedicated news provider. Virgin just seemed to abandon their news
service, no doubt other ISPs are too.

I've been using Virginmedia's (or it's predecessors') news server for
IIRC 17 years now; admittedly I don't read many groups these days, but
it's never given me problems sufficient to prompt me to want to change

--
David

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:42:47 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Phil Heads wrote:
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and
Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any
decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I use two - both free - since neither carries all the groups I read. Also
if one is down, the other is usually working.

Eternal September
http://www.eternal-september.org/

and

Aioe
http://www.aioe.org/

Are you finding E-S
p a i n f u l l y slow today?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 01:30:09 -0700, Phil Heads wrote:

Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and
Karoo have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any
decent free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil

I can recommend Astraweb. Their pay by download plans are great. You buy
a "block" of data then download at your leisure. It may be a few days or
even a couple of years - it doesn't expire (it can take a long time to
download 180GB from usenet!). They carry *a lot* of newsgroups. I've had
very few outages with them over several years now.

That is probably due to the lack of publicity and the fact that many assume
the google interface is all there is.
If ou don't need binaries then eternal september is fine.
Brian

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"Phil Heads" wrote in message
...
Hi all

Following on from "News Server Asking for Username and Password", can
anyone recommend a replacement news service for me?

Our local ISP monopoly is Kingston Communications with their brand name
Karoo. Apparently their news offering was a mirror of Giganews and Karoo
have simply ceased to provide this passed-on service.

As the newsgroup access is used for work related research as well as DIY
etc, I may be able to get subs paid for Giganews, but are there any decent
free offerings that group members recommend?

The lad I spoke to at KC reckoned there were only 80 news group
subscribers (presumably in the entire KC region) which seems very low.

Thanks for recommendations

Phil