I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

On 12/06/2013 14:46, Broadback wrote:
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

This is what we have got:

http://www.allaboutyou.com/ghi/home/...-toaster-43733

For all its imperfections, it can "toast" frozen croissants nicely, it
can take huge wedges. Evenness is achievable by setting to a low/short
toasting time and flipping the slices after one cooking - then doing
another run. If you also leave it for a while between sides, you can end
up with what I think of as toast perfection - nice crispy surfaces with
well heated interiors.

Unfortunately, the two we got were remaindered so next to no chance of
finding any new ones now.

--
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In article ,
Broadback wrote:
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Dualit.

Don't get the cheaper one, get the olde-fashiond one with the mechanical
timer. The elements are replacable too.

Bit of an "optimisation" when you put it in single slice mode, but
I guess the optimisation is that the middle element is double sided,
so single slice mode saves 1/4 of the electrickery rather than 1/2.

And buy one of those wooden toast tongs too.

http://www.dualit.com/products/2-slice-newgen

I'd suggest not buying off their site though, but use someone like Amazon
or John Lewis - they're cheaper and I had a rather "meh" experience when
buying their espresso coffee maker direct.

Gordon

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:03:58 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
Broadback wrote:
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Dualit.

Don't get the cheaper one, get the olde-fashiond one with the mechanical
timer. The elements are replacable too.

Bit of an "optimisation" when you put it in single slice mode, but I
guess the optimisation is that the middle element is double sided,
so single slice mode saves 1/4 of the electrickery rather than 1/2.

And buy one of those wooden toast tongs too.

http://www.dualit.com/products/2-slice-newgen

I'd suggest not buying off their site though, but use someone like
Amazon or John Lewis - they're cheaper and I had a rather "meh"
experience when buying their espresso coffee maker direct.

Got ours at Costco. That may be an option for the OP.



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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

In article ,
Broadback wrote:
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Dualit.

Don't get the cheaper one, get the olde-fashiond one with the mechanical
timer. The elements are replacable too.


+1

Bit of an "optimisation" when you put it in single slice mode, but
I guess the optimisation is that the middle element is double sided,
so single slice mode saves 1/4 of the electrickery rather than 1/2.

And buy one of those wooden toast tongs too.

Hmm - never seen them!

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In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

And buy one of those wooden toast tongs too.

Hmm - never seen them!

http://www.toasttongs.co.uk/

Good for pulling out short bits of toast that don't quite make to the top,
or handling hot hot hot toast!

Gordon

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

And buy one of those wooden toast tongs too.

Hmm - never seen them!

http://www.toasttongs.co.uk/

Good for pulling out short bits of toast that don't quite make to the top,
or handling hot hot hot toast!

Thanks.

For those small bits I usually tap the lifter lever down hard to try
and bounce the toast up to catching range :-)

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In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

And buy one of those wooden toast tongs too.

Hmm - never seen them!

http://www.toasttongs.co.uk/

Good for pulling out short bits of toast that don't quite make to the top,
or handling hot hot hot toast!

Thanks.

For those small bits I usually tap the lifter lever down hard to try
and bounce the toast up to catching range :-)

That is an advantage of the Dualit

Gordon

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill to
a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the bread
darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives inconsistent
result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very thick bread and
toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first
batch.

In article om,
"bm" writes:
Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first
batch.

Even the 1950's Morphy Richards automatic pop-up toaster corrected for
that effect.

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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:13:20 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you
have,
the second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat
fom the
first batch.

Even the 1950's Morphy Richards automatic pop-up toaster corrected for
that effect.

But they made things to do the job properly back then, not down to a
price and barely doing the job.

No toaster I have ever owned or used has been consitent between 1st
batch from cold and 2nd batch.

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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article om,
"bm" writes:
Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first
batch.

Even the 1950's Morphy Richards automatic pop-up toaster corrected for
that effect.

O yep, the ones we've tried correct for it, and get it wrong.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the
first batch.

Yep all toasters are inconsistent between consecutive batches unless
you get one of those moving belt jobbies you find in hotels and let
it warm up first.

I guess with a domestic you could run it through one without any
bread, the see how the 2nd and 3rd runs with bread turn out like.

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Dave.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:35:19 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the
first batch.

Yep all toasters are inconsistent between consecutive batches unless
you get one of those moving belt jobbies you find in hotels and let
it warm up first.

Our Magimix "le toaster" doesn't seem to suffer from this problem.
It's not cheap though.

We went through a stream of cheaper toasters before picking this one
and the others were all hopeless.
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the
first batch.

The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a slightly
shorter time after the first batch.



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...
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the
first batch.

The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a slightly
shorter time after the first batch.

Prolly true, Bob. I think I prefer to watch the grill and get it exactly how
I want it

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:45:01 +0100, bm wrote:

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out
and things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the
grill to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side
of the bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take
very thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any
advice please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have,
the second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom
the first batch.

The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a slightly
shorter time after the first batch.

Prolly true, Bob. I think I prefer to watch the grill and get it exactly
how I want it

The Dualit is good for fast, non-attended (bread insertion aside) toast
making. Important in our house! It'll do 132 slices an hour (4 slice
version).



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writes
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the
first batch.

The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a slightly
shorter time after the first batch.

+1

Our current model is not as good as the original which had 2 slots for
toast and a wide one for toasted sandwich/hot cross buns etc.

We now have 3 wide slots which allows standard sliced bread to lean
closer to one set of elements leading to uneven browning:-(




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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:22:42 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a
slightly
shorter time after the first batch.

+1

Why are people so prepared to compenstate for the failings of
expensive, poorly designed, equipment? If buy a toaster I want it to
make toast to my prefered level of brownness from the first slice of
a loaf to the last. I don't want to have to double guess the setting
required each time I put a fresh set of slices in.

We now have 3 wide slots which allows standard sliced bread to lean
closer to one set of elements leading to uneven browning:-(

Poor design again, even cheap basic toasters, have a moving clamp
mechanisium to centralise the slice between the elements.

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Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" writes:

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:22:42 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a
slightly
shorter time after the first batch.

+1

Why are people so prepared to compenstate for the failings of
expensive, poorly designed, equipment? If buy a toaster I want it to
make toast to my prefered level of brownness from the first slice of
a loaf to the last. I don't want to have to double guess the setting
required each time I put a fresh set of slices in.

Don't you have trouble frying eggs to the desired degree of done-ness?

I'm always sidetracked so that they're hard intead of barely having a
whitish skin on top.

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On 13/06/2013 09:06, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Poor design again, even cheap basic toasters, have a moving clamp
mechanisium to centralise the slice between the elements.

I wonder why toasters are still pretty much stuck in the
electro-mechanical age. It should be cheap enough to include a simple
optical sensor which can tell when the toast gets to exactly the right
shade of brown, obviously with a filter so the red light from the
heating element doesn't affect the reading. Then the results would be
uniform whether its the first batch or the Nth, and whether you start
from frozen or fresh bread, brown or white, etc.

The electronic components are surely simpler and cheaper than those a
quartz-crystal watch, which you can get for well under £20.

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On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:37:46 PM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:48:46 +0100, bm wrote:



"Broadback" wrote in message

...

I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and

things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill

to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the

bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives

inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very

thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice

please? TIA



Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the

second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the

first batch.



The trick with the Dualit is to set the clockwork timer for a slightly

shorter time after the first batch.







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The original Dualit we had, )and only changed to a new Dualit because the colour of the original didn't suit her new kitchen), instructions said to wind the clockwork switch backwards to turn it off, New one doesn't say this though I still do so anyway.

We find them very reliable but I don't understand all this fussing about a bit of toast.

"bm" wrote in message
eb.com...

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill to
a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the bread
darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives inconsistent
result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very thick bread and
toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first
batch.

An additional point -
If you have an eye-level grill then fine, usually. You actually get red
radiation from the mesh. If it's a low level grill and you only get cold
blue radiation.........
We only seem to churn out cheap crap these days.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:42:40 +0100, bm wrote:

If you have an eye-level grill then fine, usually. You actually get red
radiation from the mesh. If it's a low level grill and you only get cold
blue radiation.........

When I hada gas cooker with low level grill it produced nice red
radiation and very even across the whole pan. It was a surface
burning "sola" grill (or somthing like that). There wasn't any
burning in the central area only around the edges, the central part
of the pan only got heat from the edges not from straight above as
well which causes over heating in the middle section.

If they can manage this with a gas grill WTF can't they do the same
with electric ones? All the electric grills I've had the displeasure
to use have a regular lay out for the element and thus it overheats
the center. It's just simple basic design to get the job done
properly but they don't seem able to do it.

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On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:42:40 PM UTC+1, bm wrote:
"bm" wrote in message

eb.com...



"Broadback" wrote in message

...

I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and

things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill to

a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the bread

darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives inconsistent

result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very thick bread and

toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice please? TIA



Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the

second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first

batch.



An additional point -

If you have an eye-level grill then fine, usually. You actually get red

radiation from the mesh. If it's a low level grill and you only get cold

blue radiation.........

We only seem to churn out cheap crap these days.

Don;t make them like the used to ;-)

Red Dward toaster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec

"bm" wrote in message
eb.com...

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill to
a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the bread
darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives inconsistent
result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very thick bread and
toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first
batch.

I just saw this -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dualit-NewGe...pr_product_top
£160 for a friggin toaster? hahahaha. Still, it's good for keeping up with
the Joneses.
A review here -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2KFH...R2KFHTUY6GMP5B

Stick with the grill, OP.

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:22:40 +0100, bm wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
eb.com...

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have,
the second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the
first batch.

I just saw this -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dualit-NewGe...-Stainless/dp/
B002LISA6K/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
£160 for a friggin toaster? hahahaha. Still, it's good for keeping up
with the Joneses.
A review here -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2KFHTUY6GMP5B/
ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2KFHTUY6GMP5B

Stick with the grill, OP.

That's the one we were talking about. It's actually very good, and you
can get spare elements. Should last many, many years.

Also has the advantage that the main non-element failure mode is for the
clockwork timer not to work. Jammed toast will not cause a fire.


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On 13/06/13 00:22, bm wrote:
"bm" wrote in message
eb.com...
"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill to
a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the bread
darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives inconsistent
result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very thick bread and
toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice please? TIA
Go back to the grill, really. I find that whatever toaster you have, the
second batch of toast will be overdone due to residual heat fom the first
batch.
I just saw this -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dualit-NewGe...pr_product_top
£160 for a friggin toaster? hahahaha. Still, it's good for keeping up with
the Joneses.
A review here -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2KFH...R2KFHTUY6GMP5B

Stick with the grill, OP.


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Even samples of the same model seem to vary, so I suspect the answer is
going to be like, my bloggs 55 is fine but my neighbours sets of the smoke
alarm if one side is just right.
grin.
Most are pretty simply made I suspect they all get the elements from some
chinese source.
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"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill to
a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the bread
darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives inconsistent
result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very thick bread and
toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice please? TIA

On 12/06/2013 14:46, Broadback wrote:
I know this question has been asked before, but new models come out and
things move on. A few months ago we moved from toasting under the grill
to a toaster. The toaster is almost useless, it toast one side of the
bread darker than the other, also whatever it is set at gives
inconsistent result. What I need is a 2 slice model that will take very
thick bread and toast both sides equally and consistently. Any advice
please? TIA

critcher said........
took me months to find a toaster with enough depth for the majority of
todays loaves. Used the width of my glasses to test depth of toaster in
all sorts of shops, had some queer looks as well.
In the end settled for a four slice Delonghi model CTJ 4003 BIC
Excellent toaster takes a full slice (very important, most toasters do
not.)browns evenly.

On 12/06/2013 17:38, Jethro_uk wrote:
It's at times like this you realise the free market is a myth. Like
"choice" in supermarkets. Sainsburys selling 7 types of breadcrumbs, but
not being able to find room for*chip shop* mushy peas. Oh, and don't
think abour Tescos or Morrisons, coz they don't either.

Do you mean in tins? For example:

Batchelors Mushy Original Marrowfat Processed Peas (300g)

ASDA 40p
Tesco 44p
Waitrose 44p
Ocado 44p
Sainsbury's 45p

But I so agree about choice.

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On 13/06/2013 11:32, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:52:41 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 12/06/2013 17:38, Jethro_uk wrote:
It's at times like this you realise the free market is a myth. Like
"choice" in supermarkets. Sainsburys selling 7 types of breadcrumbs,
but not being able to find room for*chip shop* mushy peas. Oh, and
don't think abour Tescos or Morrisons, coz they don't either.

Do you mean in tins? For example:

Batchelors Mushy Original Marrowfat Processed Peas (300g)

ASDA 40p Tesco 44p Waitrose 44p Ocado 44p Sainsbury's 45p

But I so agree about choice.

No, I said *chip shop* ... these :

http://www.waitrose.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/
ProductView-10317-10001-9397-Batchelors+mushy+peas+chip+shop.html?
storeId=10317

NOT these:

http://www.waitrose.com/shop/Product...tchelors+mushy
+original+processed+peas

The last time I looked (as Sainsburys) they had a shelf *3* cases wide
(and 2 deep). So would it be so hard to perhaps have *2* cases of normal
and 1 of CS style ?

You *can* try to grumble at customer services. However you usually get
"we don't stock that, there's not much call for it." followed by "funny,
you're the 3rd person to ask today ...."

Anyway, back to toasters ... reading this thread seems to me that making
decent toast is another ability, like supersonic travel that is being
fast forgotten, as we "progress" ...

Had failed to realise the company actually made two different (but
seemingly eminently confusable) products. My initial reaction would have
been to assume a rebranding exercise rather than different contents.

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Rod

On 13/06/2013 11:43, polygonum wrote:
Had failed to realise the company actually made two different (but
seemingly eminently confusable) products. My initial reaction would have
been to assume a rebranding exercise rather than different contents.

Bizarrely, found this:

Batchelors Mushy Chip Shop Processed Peas
(3Kg)

ASDA £4.00 :-)

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Rod

Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:52:41 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 12/06/2013 17:38, Jethro_uk wrote:
It's at times like this you realise the free market is a myth. Like
"choice" in supermarkets. Sainsburys selling 7 types of breadcrumbs,
but not being able to find room for*chip shop* mushy peas. Oh, and
don't think abour Tescos or Morrisons, coz they don't either.

Do you mean in tins? For example:

Batchelors Mushy Original Marrowfat Processed Peas (300g)

ASDA 40p Tesco 44p Waitrose 44p Ocado 44p Sainsbury's 45p

But I so agree about choice.

No, I said *chip shop* ... these :

http://www.waitrose.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/
ProductView-10317-10001-9397-Batchelors+mushy+peas+chip+shop.html?
storeId=10317

How about the microwaveable pots of mushy peas? I'm pretty sure that
Morrisons does these. Are they not like the chip shop ones?

Tim

Jethro_uk wrote:

It's at times like this you realise the free market is a myth. Like
"choice" in supermarkets. Sainsburys selling 7 types of breadcrumbs, but
not being able to find room for *chip shop* mushy peas. Oh, and don't
think abour Tescos or Morrisons, coz they don't either.

When an item on my regular shopping list disappears from the
shelves, I usually get in touch. The response is now predictable:

"We try to sell the widest possible range of products to give our
customers maximum choice. However, due to space limitations we
cannot stock every item in every store. For each store, our
buyers regularly review what we are stocking and how well it is
selling, to make sure that we are meeting our local customers’
needs.

Occasionally, this means that we withdraw products from some
branches if they are not popular. If enough customers want to
see a certain product in their local store, we’ll do everything
we can to provide it."

So, once I am reminded that I spend my life at the edge of the
bell curve ;-)

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


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On 13/06/2013 07:08, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:

It's at times like this you realise the free market is a myth. Like
"choice" in supermarkets. Sainsburys selling 7 types of breadcrumbs, but
not being able to find room for *chip shop* mushy peas. Oh, and don't
think abour Tescos or Morrisons, coz they don't either.

When an item on my regular shopping list disappears from the
shelves, I usually get in touch. The response is now predictable:

"We try to sell the widest possible range of products to give our
customers maximum choice. However, due to space limitations we
cannot stock every item in every store. For each store, our
buyers regularly review what we are stocking and how well it is
selling, to make sure that we are meeting our local customers’
needs.

Occasionally, this means that we withdraw products from some
branches if they are not popular. If enough customers want to
see a certain product in their local store, we’ll do everything
we can to provide it."

So, once I am reminded that I spend my life at the edge of the
bell curve ;-)

Chris

Several times I have asked for an item to be told "A few people have
asked for that recently. But we only stock items that are in demand" I
interpret that to mean those that make most profit!

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:08:19 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:

If enough customers want to see a certain product in their local store,
we ll do everything we can to provide it."

How do they know? If it's not on the shelves people can't buy it to
indicate a "demand". How many customers will go to the service desk
and ask for a product to be stocked? Not many, if any...

So, once I am reminded that I spend my life at the edge of the
bell curve ;-)

With a taste for mushy peas I'm not surprised. Foul things.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 13/06/13 09:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
With a taste for mushy peas I'm not surprised. Foul things.

+1

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:08:19 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote:

If enough customers want to see a certain product in their local store,
we ll do everything we can to provide it."

How do they know? If it's not on the shelves people can't buy it to
indicate a "demand". How many customers will go to the service desk
and ask for a product to be stocked? Not many, if any...

So, once I am reminded that I spend my life at the edge of the
bell curve ;-)

With a taste for mushy peas I'm not surprised. Foul things.

I think you'll find it was Jethro who was the mushy pea fan. I
was simply after Organic fat-free milk, 2 pint size.

I got the same response to:
I have been using your creamed tomatoes for some time as an
economical recipe ingredient. When I tried to stock up this week,
it appears that you have replaced them with Italian passata.
Comparing the labels, it seem that you have added salt, which is
now in the amber band, as is the total sugars. The tomato per
100g has reduced from 150g to 130g.
My records don't tell me the comparative prices, but I have
difficulty seeing any of the changes as an improvement.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


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