http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nsU...layer_embedded

Bill

in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

En el artículo , Bob Martin
escribió:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

It wasn't entirely a serious question.

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in 1214371 20130322 091719 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el art�culo , Bob Martin
escribi�:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

Nope, reasonable question to someone who *appears* to base his skepticism
on one day's weather in a very tiny part of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first - many septics seem to be guilty of it.


It wasn't entirely a serious question.

On 22/03/13 10:38, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1214371 20130322 091719 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el art�culo , Bob Martin
escribi�:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

Nope, reasonable question to someone who *appears* to base his skepticism
on one day's weather in a very tiny part of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first - many septics seem to be guilty of it.


this is not a US based newsgroup.


It wasn't entirely a serious question.



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On 22/03/2013 10:38, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1214371 20130322 091719 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el art�culo , Bob Martin
escribi�:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

Nope, reasonable question to someone who *appears* to base his skepticism
on one day's weather in a very tiny part of the globe.

ITYM 15 years of the climate not doing what the computer models say it
should do if the theory were correct.

Colin Bignell

On 22/03/2013 10:38, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1214371 20130322 091719 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el art�culo , Bob Martin
escribi�:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

Nope, reasonable question to someone who *appears* to base his skepticism
on one day's weather in a very tiny part of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first - many septics seem to be guilty of it.


While you base your views on second hand erroneous data and duff
computer models which are slowly being proved wrong as those of us that
understand science have been saying for years.

in 1214593 20130322 191138 "dennis@home" wrote:
On 22/03/2013 10:38, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1214371 20130322 091719 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el art�culo , Bob Martin
escribi�:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

Nope, reasonable question to someone who *appears* to base his skepticism
on one day's weather in a very tiny part of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first - many septics seem to be guilty of it.


While you base your views on second hand erroneous data and duff
computer models which are slowly being proved wrong as those of us that
understand science have been saying for years.

Another internet expert.

"Bob Martin" wrote in message
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in 1214371 20130322 091719 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el art�culo , Bob Martin
escribi�:
in 1214320 20130322 014520 Mike Tomlinson wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Are you serious?

Think that was a *whoosh* ...

Nope, reasonable question to someone who *appears* to base his skepticism
on one day's weather in a very tiny part of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first - many septics seem to be guilty of it.


You won't find a lot of sympathy for warmist leanings on here ...

Arfa




It wasn't entirely a serious question.

Climate change, not global warming. actually it is warming but what happens
is that the extremes get more extreme as the added energy in the system has
to do more work as it were, its all down to Entropy.
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On 22/03/13 08:28, Brian Gaff wrote:
Climate change, not global warming. actually it is warming but what happens
is that the extremes get more extreme as the added energy in the system has
to do more work as it were, its all down to Entropy.
Brian


actually it did warm, for some reason as yet unknown, but its stopped,
and this weather is the excess heat 'boiling off' as the climate cools
again.


It's very similar as far as can be told to the sequence of events that
preceded the 'little ice age' of the 17th-20th century


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On Mar 22, 11:02*am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 22/03/13 08:28, Brian Gaff wrote:

Climate change, not global warming. actually it is warming but what happens
is that the extremes get more extreme as the added energy in the system has
to do more work *as it were, *its all down to Entropy.
* Brian

actually it did warm, for some reason as yet unknown, but its stopped,
and this weather is the excess heat 'boiling off' as the climate cools
again.

It's very similar as far as can be told to the sequence of events that
preceded the 'little ice age' of the 17th-20th century

So you mean the 1970s predictions of an imminent ice age may be
correct after all :-)

MBQ

On 22/03/13 15:50, Man at B&Q wrote:
On Mar 22, 11:02 am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 22/03/13 08:28, Brian Gaff wrote:

Climate change, not global warming. actually it is warming but what happens
is that the extremes get more extreme as the added energy in the system has
to do more work as it were, its all down to Entropy.
Brian

actually it did warm, for some reason as yet unknown, but its stopped,
and this weather is the excess heat 'boiling off' as the climate cools
again.

It's very similar as far as can be told to the sequence of events that
preceded the 'little ice age' of the 17th-20th century

So you mean the 1970s predictions of an imminent ice age may be
correct after all :-)


of course - almost anything *could* be correct, including that
everything will come to an abrupt end in 15 nanoseconds.

Now there is one piece of social science research that really needs
doing. The frequency of occurrence of the words 'could' and 'might' in
articles about climate change compared with their average frequency in
other media articles.

I wonder if I could get a grant...

MBQ



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On 22/03/2013 16:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


of course - almost anything *could* be correct, including that
everything will come to an abrupt end in 15 nanoseconds.

Now there is one piece of social science research that really needs
doing. The frequency of occurrence of the words 'could' and 'might' in
articles about climate change compared with their average frequency in
other media articles.

I wonder if I could get a grant...


I suppose you might!

Quite a nice software project.

In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Is the UK the 'globe'?

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On 22/03/13 11:11, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Is the UK the 'globe'?

well it is part of it, at least.


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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/03/13 11:11, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Is the UK the 'globe'?

well it is part of it, at least.

Not disputing that.

Last summer, which sort of escaped the UK, was unusually hot in other
parts of Europe.

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On 22/03/13 14:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/03/13 11:11, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Is the UK the 'globe'?

well it is part of it, at least.

Not disputing that.

Last summer, which sort of escaped the UK, was unusually hot in other
parts of Europe.

This winter, Europe is catching it worse than wot we are..



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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/03/13 14:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/03/13 11:11, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

Is the UK the 'globe'?

well it is part of it, at least.

Not disputing that.

Last summer, which sort of escaped the UK, was unusually hot in other
parts of Europe.

This winter, Europe is catching it worse than wot we are..

Indeed. All that shows is 'Global Warming' was a term coined by the meja.
Climate change covers it better.

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
Last summer, which sort of escaped the UK, was unusually hot in other
parts of Europe.

Earlier this month we had nine consecutive 32C+ days, the first time
this has ever been recorded.

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On 23/03/13 12:12, Tony Bryer wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
Last summer, which sort of escaped the UK, was unusually hot in other
parts of Europe.

Earlier this month we had nine consecutive 32C+ days, the first time
this has ever been recorded.

who is 'we'? the Australian aborigines?


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On 23/03/2013 12:12, Tony Bryer wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
Last summer, which sort of escaped the UK, was unusually hot in other
parts of Europe.

Earlier this month we had nine consecutive 32C+ days, the first time
this has ever been recorded.



So what?
Just how long have the records been kept?
Its amusing when they say "recorded" when the records have been kept for
a whole decade or two.

On 22/03/13 01:45, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

those who are curious may find the jetstream forecast site of interest.
March it seems will be going out like a lion..

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?a...etstream;sess=

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Mike Tomlinson writes:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

They've been suggesting that the rise in temperatures will cause
weather to be more extreme.
Certainly the melting of all that Arctic ice (which they could hardly
be mistaken about) is going to dump huge volumes of very cold, nearly
fresh water into the Atlantic.
Difficult to predict the result, but it could well cause weather
extremes.



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On 22/03/13 20:54, Windmill wrote:
Mike Tomlinson writes:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

They've been suggesting that the rise in temperatures will cause
weather to be more extreme.
Certainly the melting of all that Arctic ice (which they could hardly
be mistaken about) is going to dump huge volumes of very cold, nearly
fresh water into the Atlantic.

the only problem is the arctic has in fact frozen right back up to
approximately normal and looks like it may well be MORE ice than last year.

Difficult to predict the result, but it could well cause weather
extremes.

Anything could cause anything when you know feck all about it. And
that's not personal: that's a reflections on the climate change camp in
general.





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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:08:58 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

the only problem is the arctic has in fact frozen right back up to
approximately normal and looks like it may well be MORE ice than last
year.

Just ice area or area *and* thickness? It's ice volume that is important
not simple ice area.

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On 23/03/13 10:26, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:08:58 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

the only problem is the arctic has in fact frozen right back up to
approximately normal and looks like it may well be MORE ice than last
year.

Just ice area or area *and* thickness? It's ice volume that is important
not simple ice area.

Oh no, you must be wrong, because all the scare stories were not about
THICKNES, just AREA.



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What global warming ... ? ;-)

Arfa

En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió:

What global warming ... ? ;-)

Exactly :-) Glad someone 'got it'.

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On 23/03/2013 01:02, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió:

What global warming ... ? ;-)

Exactly :-) Glad someone 'got it'.


I thought that the present cold snap is precisely the sort of thing
forecast by the climate change camp? It's global warming, but that does
not mean this country will be warmer.

On 23/03/13 07:52, GB wrote:
On 23/03/2013 01:02, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Arfa Daily
escribió:

What global warming ... ? ;-)

Exactly :-) Glad someone 'got it'.


I thought that the present cold snap is precisely the sort of thing
forecast by the climate change camp? It's global warming, but that does
not mean this country will be warmer.



Since the climate change camp have on occasion forecasted almost
everything possible, that's no great surprise.

Saying 'God is fickle, anything could happen' is not science.




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On 23/03/2013 09:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I thought that the present cold snap is precisely the sort of thing
forecast by the climate change camp? It's global warming, but that does
not mean this country will be warmer.



Since the climate change camp have on occasion forecasted almost
everything possible, that's no great surprise.

Saying 'God is fickle, anything could happen' is not science.

It's a situation we haven't been in, so forecasting is hard. That
doesn't mean that it's okay to stumble blindly on towards a calamity for
our children and grandchildren.

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GB wrote:
On 23/03/2013 01:02, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió:

What global warming ... ? ;-)

Exactly :-) Glad someone 'got it'.


I thought that the present cold snap is precisely the sort of thing
forecast by the climate change camp? It's global warming, but that does
not mean this country will be warmer.

But the UK - or rather just certain parts of it - is the centre of the
universe for some.

It probably passed them by that some parts of the UK didn't have the same
high rainfall last year as most.

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On 23/03/13 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
GB wrote:
On 23/03/2013 01:02, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Arfa Daily
escribió:

What global warming ... ? ;-)

Exactly :-) Glad someone 'got it'.


I thought that the present cold snap is precisely the sort of thing
forecast by the climate change camp? It's global warming, but that does
not mean this country will be warmer.

But the UK - or rather just certain parts of it - is the centre of the
universe for some.

It probably passed them by that some parts of the UK didn't have the same
high rainfall last year as most.

tell me which part did not.


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On 23/03/2013 01:02, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió:

What global warming ... ? ;-)

Exactly :-) Glad someone 'got it'.


I thought that the present cold snap is precisely the sort of thing
forecast by the climate change camp? It's global warming, but that does
not mean this country will be warmer.



"It's LOGIC Jim, but not as we know it" ... ;-)

Arfa

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?

There's forest fires in Australia. What happened to this ****ing
global cooling then?

JGH

En el artículo
oups.com, jgharston escribió:

There's forest fires in Australia. What happened to this ****ing
global cooling then?

Tsk. Try and keep up. Fires followed by extensive flooding.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vide...ng-evacuation-
new-south-wales-video

Dunno what they're moaning about, they wanted the fires put out, didn't
they?

[:-) for the humour-impaired in this thread]

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On 22/03/2013 2:45 p.m., Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?


If it makes you feel any better, we've been having a fantastic summer in
NZ. Almost three months of uninterrupted sun. Not good for the farmers
though.

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On 22/03/2013 2:45 p.m., Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817

So what happened to this ****ing global warming then?


If it makes you feel any better, we've been having a fantastic summer in
NZ. Almost three months of uninterrupted sun. Not good for the farmers
though.

If you want to feel really smug, you can have our drought from last year.