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Snake oil?
Seems to good to be true?
Bedec Multi Surface Paint Interior and Exterior Paint No primer or undercoat needed Use on a variety of surfaces including wood, MDF, metals, plastics, tiles, masonry, plaster and UPVC. http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p846... ign=130318-UK -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 15/03/2013 20:59, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Seems to good to be true? Bedec Multi Surface Paint Interior and Exterior Paint No primer or undercoat needed Use on a variety of surfaces including wood, MDF, metals, plastics, tiles, masonry, plaster and UPVC. http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p846... ign=130318-UK Gold plated as well at that price... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 15/03/2013 20:59, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Seems to good to be true? Bedec Multi Surface Paint AFAICR "MSP" paint's been around for years actually; I think I have an old tin somewhere myself. They used it all the time on that "Changing Rooms" programme on the telly - not that that means anything of course! -- David |
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On 16/03/2013 08:20, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 15/03/2013 22:18, John Rumm wrote: On 15/03/2013 20:59, The Medway Handyman wrote: Seems to good to be true? Bedec Multi Surface Paint Interior and Exterior Paint No primer or undercoat needed Use on a variety of surfaces including wood, MDF, metals, plastics, tiles, masonry, plaster and UPVC. http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p846... ign=130318-UK Gold plated as well at that price... "If" it works, the price compares with 1 x primer + 1 x gloss - and a huge labour saving. "If" it works :-) There are some positive comments around the web. Apparently the company is very small hence does not have Dulux-level advertising. -- Rod |
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There used to be a paint that claimed to key in by slightly eroding the
surface it was applied to. It was many years ago on Tomorrows World, and I nver heard of it ever again. Could this be it? Mind you if its that good, why have we not seen it everywhere? Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Seems to good to be true? Bedec Multi Surface Paint Interior and Exterior Paint No primer or undercoat needed Use on a variety of surfaces including wood, MDF, metals, plastics, tiles, masonry, plaster and UPVC. http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p846... ign=130318-UK -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 16/03/2013 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote:
There used to be a paint that claimed to key in by slightly eroding the surface it was applied to. It was many years ago on Tomorrows World, and I nver heard of it ever again. Could this be it? Mind you if its that good, why have we not seen it everywhere? Brian This is the principle of "etch primers" which are widely used on metals in industrial and manufacturing applications. Generally contain phosphoric acid so removes some metal and leaves a phosphate coat. -- For every complex problem, there is a solution which is simple, neat, and wrong. H L Menken |
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On 16/03/2013 10:17, newshound wrote:
On 16/03/2013 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote: There used to be a paint that claimed to key in by slightly eroding the surface it was applied to. It was many years ago on Tomorrows World, and I nver heard of it ever again. Could this be it? Mind you if its that good, why have we not seen it everywhere? Brian This is the principle of "etch primers" which are widely used on metals in industrial and manufacturing applications. Generally contain phosphoric acid so removes some metal and leaves a phosphate coat. I've seen decades old paint still perfectly sound on window glass. Go figure as they say |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Seems to good to be true? Bedec Multi Surface Paint Interior and Exterior Paint No primer or undercoat needed Use on a variety of surfaces including wood, MDF, metals, plastics, tiles, masonry, plaster and UPVC. http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p846... ign=130318-UK -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Based on the very good products that I've had from Toolstation over the years, I'd be prepared to believe that if they stock it, it works ... Arfa |
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On 17/03/2013 01:51, Arfa Daily wrote:
Based on the very good products that I've had from Toolstation over the years, I'd be prepared to believe that if they stock it, it works ... Hmm, not so sure about that! I use them all the time, but TBH it's based on their excellent customer service and prices rather than quality of their products. Which is not to say that the majority of what they sell isn't fine; but your statement is over-egging the pudding a bit I think. (Eg - bought a set of 8mm copper tube benders from them a while ago; they arrived with a loose mechanism and wouldn't work; I had no problem at all in obtaining a replacement delivered the following day. However, that one was barely any better; it *just* managed the job in hand but left the pipe all grooved. So that one went back as well, this time for a refund...) -- David |
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On 17/03/2013 12:28, Lobster wrote:
On 17/03/2013 01:51, Arfa Daily wrote: Based on the very good products that I've had from Toolstation over the years, I'd be prepared to believe that if they stock it, it works ... Hmm, not so sure about that! I use them all the time, but TBH it's based on their excellent customer service and prices rather than quality of their products. Which is not to say that the majority of what they sell isn't fine; but your statement is over-egging the pudding a bit I think. (Eg - bought a set of 8mm copper tube benders from them a while ago; they arrived with a loose mechanism and wouldn't work; I had no problem at all in obtaining a replacement delivered the following day. However, that one was barely any better; it *just* managed the job in hand but left the pipe all grooved. So that one went back as well, this time for a refund...) Trouble with Toolsatan is the Silverline stuff, which isn't always good. Their HSS drill bits for example, are made from recycled cheese... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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In article , Lobster
writes On 17/03/2013 01:51, Arfa Daily wrote: Based on the very good products that I've had from Toolstation over the years, I'd be prepared to believe that if they stock it, it works ... Hmm, not so sure about that! I use them all the time, but TBH it's based on their excellent customer service and prices rather than quality of their products. Which is not to say that the majority of what they sell isn't fine; but your statement is over-egging the pudding a bit I think. Think you've summed it up well, some stuff is fine but some really is cheap ****, definitely 'contract' grade or lower. eg. They no longer sell copper telephone cable. They used to sell some stuff that was priced at copper levels and some cheaper CCA stuff. I bought some of the more expensive stuff which turned out to be CCS which I took back for a refund as poorly described. I then made a point of telling the buying team that someone had fooked up and misbought CCS instead of copper. As they had a warehouse full of CCS they decided to solve the problem dropping 'copper' and just selling CCS and CCA which are both of course ****. After a while, and with a little persuasion, they corrected the descriptions and sorted the prices to reflect those expected of copper plated fence wire. Definitely a store where the buyer needs to keep their eyes open. Note I'm not suggesting that the close competition is much better. -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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On 16/03/2013 10:38, stuart noble wrote:
On 16/03/2013 10:17, newshound wrote: On 16/03/2013 08:58, Brian Gaff wrote: There used to be a paint that claimed to key in by slightly eroding the surface it was applied to. It was many years ago on Tomorrows World, and I nver heard of it ever again. Could this be it? Mind you if its that good, why have we not seen it everywhere? Brian This is the principle of "etch primers" which are widely used on metals in industrial and manufacturing applications. Generally contain phosphoric acid so removes some metal and leaves a phosphate coat. I've seen decades old paint still perfectly sound on window glass. Go figure as they say No mystery. Glass is inert (unlike ferrous metals) and it doesn't move around like wood does. |
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