I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to go
wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, but one would think that there might have been some kind of universal
remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Brian

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"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?

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I looked into it whilst sat at home waiting for the phone call. I was
getting more and more nervous as the hours crawled by.
It would seem to be a common fault with these cars. There are horror stories
of huge bills from the main dealers.
There are rumors of a re-call, but I can't find it.



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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to go
wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, but one would think that there might have been some kind of universal
remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

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"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:58:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong.

This is probably true but what the designers design, the materials
engineers specify and what actually gets built after the beancounters
have hada look can be very different...

I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, ...

Well there ought to be some sort of manual release that is not overly
easy to access from inside the car. That is not a popup button with a
mushroom head but just a small hole to waggle a screwdriver through that
is normally hidden behind some trim.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?

"Caused by the wires in the loom shorting".
And I know what you are thinking.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:58:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong.

This is probably true but what the designers design, the materials
engineers specify and what actually gets built after the beancounters
have hada look can be very different...

I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, ...

Well there ought to be some sort of manual release that is not overly
easy to access from inside the car. That is not a popup button with a
mushroom head but just a small hole to waggle a screwdriver through that
is normally hidden behind some trim.

I think there is a manual release somewhere.
I dropped the back seats and pulled the boot trim off. I'm 6' tall, this did
not help me in the boot area.
Anyway, I was too stupid to see the manual release so I blasted everything
with VD40.
This did not work.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to go
wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble
about that, but one would think that there might have been some kind of
universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the central
locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry point
with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

tim

tim..... wrote:

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry point
with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually
How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

Automatic centre punch?

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick

"tim....." wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to go
wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble
about that, but one would think that there might have been some kind of
universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry point
with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

tim

On a Micra there is a little cover on the passenger door handle. Take it off
and there is a key hole.

"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.
Not back street.

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble
about that, but one would think that there might have been some kind of
universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry
point with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

tim

On a Micra there is a little cover on the passenger door handle. Take it
off and there is a key hole.

Pretty sure there aren't any hidden keyholes.

tim

"tim....." wrote in message
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"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be
trouble about that, but one would think that there might have been some
kind of universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry
point with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

tim

On a Micra there is a little cover on the passenger door handle. Take it
off and there is a key hole.

Pretty sure there aren't any hidden keyholes.

tim

They are very cleverly disguised.
I was told that all cars have one.

In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:

"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra. Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday. 10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.
Not back street.

12 quid an hour labour? You had this done 50 years ago?

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Oh that VD 40 again, I guess that made it come up in little warts then?

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:58:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong.

This is probably true but what the designers design, the materials
engineers specify and what actually gets built after the beancounters
have hada look can be very different...

I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, ...

Well there ought to be some sort of manual release that is not overly
easy to access from inside the car. That is not a popup button with a
mushroom head but just a small hole to waggle a screwdriver through that
is normally hidden behind some trim.

I think there is a manual release somewhere.
I dropped the back seats and pulled the boot trim off. I'm 6' tall, this
did not help me in the boot area.
Anyway, I was too stupid to see the manual release so I blasted everything
with VD40.
This did not work.

On 20/01/13 12:15, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?

No, that's what they broke getting the boot open.


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On 20/01/13 14:13, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.

Ok
Not back street.

ER well then you simply have very EXPENSIVE garage.





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members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:15:15 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?

More likely they replaced the latch and it didn't work.
So they replaced the switch and it didn't work.
And then they fixed the loom and it did work.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:49:44 +0000, tim..... wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be
trouble about that, but one would think that there might have been some
kind of universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry
point with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

On my S-Max there is an emergency key hidden inside the key fob. But you
have to have a keyhole too!


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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:24:27 +0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:58:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong.

This is probably true but what the designers design, the materials
engineers specify and what actually gets built after the beancounters
have hada look can be very different...

I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, ...

Well there ought to be some sort of manual release that is not overly
easy to access from inside the car. That is not a popup button with a
mushroom head but just a small hole to waggle a screwdriver through that
is normally hidden behind some trim.

I know I had trouble with a flat battery on an S-Max. The jump leads were
in the 'boot'. The tailgate lock is electric only.



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On Sunday 20 January 2013 15:08 Brian Gaff wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Oh that VD 40 again, I guess that made it come up in little warts then?

They do not call him Pounder for nothing.

I will not speculate what is on the receiving end though...

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Oh that VD 40 again, I guess that made it come up in little warts then?

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:58:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong.

This is probably true but what the designers design, the materials
engineers specify and what actually gets built after the beancounters
have hada look can be very different...

I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be trouble about
that, ...

Well there ought to be some sort of manual release that is not overly
easy to access from inside the car. That is not a popup button with a
mushroom head but just a small hole to waggle a screwdriver through that
is normally hidden behind some trim.

I think there is a manual release somewhere.
I dropped the back seats and pulled the boot trim off. I'm 6' tall, this
did not help me in the boot area.
Anyway, I was too stupid to see the manual release so I blasted
everything with VD40.
This did not work.

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On Sunday 20 January 2013 15:08 Brian Gaff wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Oh that VD 40 again, I guess that made it come up in little warts then?

They do not call him Pounder for nothing.

I will not speculate what is on the receiving end though...

Mr Pounder to you.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:15:15 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?

More likely they replaced the latch and it didn't work.
So they replaced the switch and it didn't work.
And then they fixed the loom and it did work.

Please don't.

On 20/01/13 15:51, Mr Pounder wrote:
I did it on porpoise.

Gave it a good whaling first, did you?


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In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:

"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra. Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday. 10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.
Not back street.

12 quid an hour labour? You had this done 50 years ago?

I dropped the car off at 7.30 AM. My choice, the garage was open.
I went back at 5PM, they were still working on it.
I drove away at 5.30 PM.
I can't say that they devoted the full 10 hours to my car; but I do know
that they wanted it out of the garage.
The £120 includes labour for the service, MOT preparation and taking the car
for the MOT.
It's grim up north.

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On 20/01/13 14:13, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.

Ok
Not back street.

ER well then you simply have very EXPENSIVE garage.

Look at my last post. Then explain yours.





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with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 20/01/13 16:25, Mr Pounder wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 20/01/13 14:13, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.

Ok
Not back street.

ER well then you simply have very EXPENSIVE garage.

Look at my last post. Then explain yours.

An hours labour is generally £30-£45






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with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
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On 20/01/13 15:51, Mr Pounder wrote:
I did it on porpoise.

Gave it a good whaling first, did you?

Adam, where are you when I need you?!

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On 20/01/13 16:25, Mr Pounder wrote:
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On 20/01/13 14:13, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:33:12 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!

So... about four thousand quid then?

Nick


Labour was £120.
I have a very good garage.

Ok
Not back street.

ER well then you simply have very EXPENSIVE garage.

Look at my last post. Then explain yours.

An hours labour is generally £30-£45

I may have misunderstood you.








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members
of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded
with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.





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of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded
with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?


You cynic you. ;-). I expect they replaced the latch, didn't work.
Replaced the switch, didn't work. THEN they traced and found the real
fault.

Tim

On 20/01/2013 14:50, Mr Pounder wrote:
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be
trouble about that, but one would think that there might have been some
kind of universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry
point with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

tim

On a Micra there is a little cover on the passenger door handle. Take it
off and there is a key hole.

Pretty sure there aren't any hidden keyholes.

tim

They are very cleverly disguised.
I was told that all cars have one.






They are quite often on the passenger side as a lot are designed for
left hand drive first.

The smart appears to have one that allows you to open the car but not
lock it with a key.

"Tim+" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?


You cynic you. ;-). I expect they replaced the latch, didn't work.
Replaced the switch, didn't work. THEN they traced and found the real
fault.

Tim


I asked for help, you could not help but you slag of the guys that fixed the
problem.

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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"Tim+" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?


You cynic you. ;-). I expect they replaced the latch, didn't work.
Replaced the switch, didn't work. THEN they traced and found the real
fault.

I asked for help, you could not help

He didn’t have the car in his hands.

but you slag of the guys that fixed the problem.

They didn’t do a very good job of diagnosing where the problem
actually was if they replaced the first two for no useful purpose.

If they had actually diagnosed where the problem actually
was rather than just swapping stuff until the fault went
away, it would have been a lot cheaper in parts used.

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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be
trouble about that, but one would think that there might have been
some kind of universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry
point with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

tim

On a Micra there is a little cover on the passenger door handle. Take it
off and there is a key hole.

Pretty sure there aren't any hidden keyholes.

tim

They are very cleverly disguised.

Well it must be (I went to look)

there is definitely not a little cover that can easily be removed

There might be a way of removing the complete housing, I didn't try

tim

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:49:44 +0000, tim..... wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt if those who design these things ever expect them to
go wrong. I guess if it was too easy to get open, there would be
trouble about that, but one would think that there might have been some
kind of universal remover if busted device.
I know its called a crowbar...

Yeah

I really don't know how I am supposed to get into my car should the
central locking micro-switch on the drivers door stop working

The "blipper" has already stopped working and there's only one entry
point with a key which appears to work electronically and not manually

How do you get in when the battery goes flat?

On my S-Max there is an emergency key hidden inside the key fob. But you
have to have a keyhole too!

I have a key and a keyhole, but it (only) appears to operate an electronic
sensor, not manually unlock the door (BICBW)

tim

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"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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"Tim+" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan
Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?


You cynic you. ;-). I expect they replaced the latch, didn't work.
Replaced the switch, didn't work. THEN they traced and found the real
fault.

I asked for help, you could not help

He didn’t have the car in his hands.

but you slag of the guys that fixed the problem.

They didn’t do a very good job of diagnosing where the problem
actually was if they replaced the first two for no useful purpose.

If they had actually diagnosed where the problem actually
was rather than just swapping stuff until the fault went
away, it would have been a lot cheaper in parts used.

Are you an Australian prick?

"Mr Pounder" wrote:
"Tim+" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Mr Pounder wrote:
I was unable to open the boot lid using intelligent key on Nissan Micra.
Many thanks to those that tried to help.

Garage had car for MOT and service on Friday.
10 hours!!!!!
Knackered tail gate latch.
Knackered tailgate switch.
Broken wires in the loom.

Quote from the mechanic, "It was a ****ing nightmare".

So three separate faults all suddenly happened at once?


You cynic you. ;-). I expect they replaced the latch, didn't work.
Replaced the switch, didn't work. THEN they traced and found the real
fault.

Tim


I asked for help, you could not help but you slag of the guys that fixed the
problem.

Off course you *might* have had three separate problems all occur at the
same time but common things being common, and some garages being a bunch of
shysters, it's more likely that you only had one problem. Shoot the
messenger if you like but it's helpful to know how some garages work to
save yourself paying inflated repair bills for unnecessary work.

Tim

On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:42:31 -0000, "tim....."
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On a Micra there is a little cover on the passenger door handle. Take it
off and there is a key hole.

Pretty sure there aren't any hidden keyholes.

tim

They are very cleverly disguised.

Well it must be (I went to look)

there is definitely not a little cover that can easily be removed

There might be a way of removing the complete housing, I didn't try

RTFM?