On Jan 7, 9:39*am, harry wrote:

if you've got freeview 'russia today' and 'aljerzeeraz 'make an interesting
different slant on the news.

If you have "Freesat" there is additionally to those France 24,
Japanese, three American, Sky news and Chinese ones.

Remarkably, the Yank ones are worse than ours. (CNN etc)

It explains the mentality of US posters on a lot of forums. Rather
than look stuff up online they look stuff up on their newscasts and
then post it.

On Jan 12, 2:23*pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in ...

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* Arfa Daily wrote:
It's always something that's hard to contest like excess play in a
steering or suspension joint, or a gaiter starting to split. or excess
wear on brake pads etc,

No such thing as worn brake pads, as regards an MOT. Unless down to the
backing.

Which is why they had to admit that they couldn't fail it, even if they were
worn as they said, which they actually weren't. The thing is that if you are
Joe Average, who these days doesn't even know where the bonnet release catch
is, when someone 'professional', who is, after all, doing a government
required safety check - the MOT test - on your car, you might well be
inclined to accept what they are telling you as gospel, and go along with
it. Discs and pads are actually really cheap, and probably even cheaper on a
trade account. They are really easy to change on most cars, especially if
you have all the right kit and a hoist available. I would imagine that doing
a few of those a day at £120 or whatever, would represent a very nice little
profit, thank you very much ...



You could always attend the MOT and ask to be shown the problem.

Not always terribly convenient though, and I guess that they rely on this..
Very easy to assess the 'vulnerability' of the customer also. Both my son
and one of my daughters, and the wife have had 'debatable' experiences at
the hands of these people, but seem reluctant to accept they might be 'on
the make' from them. It's a nice glossy place, and the guys are very
friendly and chatty, but the two who seem to be in charge, always feel very
'cheeky chappy' and streetwise to me, and I don't like them. I use them for
tyres, which I've already previously got a price for from them over the
phone, but that's it.

Arfa









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* *Dave Plowman * * * * * * * * London SW
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You're right,there are lots of crooks out there.
And lots of people with not an ounce of wit.
Hardly anybody seems to fix their own cars these days and hence they
know nothing about them.
Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.
A lot of these car repair magazines seem to have disappeared too.

On Jan 12, 8:36*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jan 7, 9:39*am, harry wrote:



if you've got freeview 'russia today' and 'aljerzeeraz 'make an interesting
different slant on the news.

If you have "Freesat" there is additionally to those France 24,
Japanese, three American, Sky news and Chinese ones.

Remarkably, the Yank ones are worse than ours. (CNN etc)

It explains the mentality of US posters on a lot of forums. Rather
than look stuff up online they look stuff up on their newscasts and
then post it.

A lot of American's education is very narrow and specialised but
usually extensivei n their chosen subject.

They are all brainwashed by Fox News.
Ingnorant and insular/parochial.

They think Hollywood epics are true history.
eg John Wayne won WW2.
Boeing invented the jet engine.
They won the Vietnam war.
Bill Gates invented computers.
Wild Bill Hickock invented the steam engine.
Davey Crocket fought to the death.
They are winning/won in Afghanistan/Iraq.
Abraham Lincoln was a better guy than Saddam Hussein.
George Washington was their first president.
The Brits did not burn down the White House.
There has not been concentration camps in the USA since independeance.

"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2013-01-12, Arfa Daily wrote:

Very easy to assess the 'vulnerability' of the customer also. Both my son
and one of my daughters, and the wife have had 'debatable' experiences at
the hands of these people, but seem reluctant to accept they might be 'on
the make' from them. It's a nice glossy place, and the guys are very
friendly and chatty, but the two who seem to be in charge, always feel
very
'cheeky chappy' and streetwise to me, and I don't like them. I use them
for
tyres, which I've already previously got a price for from them over the
phone, but that's it.

I cannot recommend Homan Tyres in Kempston, Beds., enough.

01234 851850.


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That's not too far from me ...

Arfa

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harry writes

A lot of these car repair magazines seem to have disappeared too.

Never seen much point in them

If their lead article of the month is how to replace the fan in the
heating system in a megane and you've got a focus with a knacked thrust
bearing, you're better off buying the haynes manual if you're not
sufficiently competent to do it without assistance


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