My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

--
Rod

Many electricians had shops much later than that - I can remember several
in Aberdeen in the '50s. Selling batteries, torches, cable, plugs etc. As
well as taking the order for house wiring work.

There was retail price maintenance in those days, so no cheap supermarket
batteries. Or supermarkets, come to that. If was also fairly common for a
plumber/electrician shop, selling baths and basins etc as well as
electrical stuff. Had a relation who owned one.

--
*Nostalgia isn't what is used to be.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

polygonum wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

193 Bethnal Green Road is listed in a 1921 trades directory as occupied
by "Sorrell Wm & Son, electrical engineers", so unless her dad or
uncle's not told her something, I guess that's not the address. That
building was destroyed shortly after or at the tail end of the war
(1950s by the look of the building that's there now) and is now a block
of flats, though Google show it as being (The remains of?) a normal
terrace with open ground to the rear in August 1945, probably very
similar to the surviving ones just along the road.

"Electrical Engineer" used to cover a multitude of jobs from installing
distribution plant to making and repairing all forms of electrical
items. In the case of the Sorrells, I'd guess they were what would now
be considered contractors, working from either a small shop premises
with the office in the shop or their home with the office in the front
room, installing electrical works in old and new housing.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green
in 1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can
explain what he did but there was mention in the whispers and
memories of something to do with electricity so it makes some sense -
and I cannot help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine
that any sort of electrical installer would need any form of shop
premises, the area was very poor so unlikely to attract many retail
customers, what is left? Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio
batteries? Fixing appliances?

It would help if you could expound on your source for "shown to occupy
premises in Bethnal Green". Eg in 1921 Bethnal Green was still a
distinct registration district so if that is what you meant then it
covered a pretty big area[1] and not just what today might be seen as
Bethnal Green. If you don't have an address you could try one of the
sites which try to index the area. Eg you clould search for him and/or
his professed occupation at http://london1912.co.uk/index.shtml You'll
find a fair few electrical engineers around the area as it was a big
manufacturing area so a lot of call for lighting installations, power
etc. You could of course also care to try one of the UK FH groups.

[]1 'Er indoors has been deep into her FH for 20+ years so I've had a
fair bit soak into me - a bit like living next in Windscale.
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On 27/12/12 16:32, polygonum wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

rewinding and servicing motors and dynamos?
Designing and installing electrical systems for businesses?


--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Many electricians had shops much later than that - I can remember several
in Aberdeen in the '50s. Selling batteries, torches, cable, plugs etc. As
well as taking the order for house wiring work.

There was retail price maintenance in those days, so no cheap supermarket
batteries. Or supermarkets, come to that. If was also fairly common for a
plumber/electrician shop, selling baths and basins etc as well as
electrical stuff. Had a relation who owned one.

and another Scottish phenomenon was fishing tackle and tv sets.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On 27/12/2012 17:42, Robin wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green
in 1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can
explain what he did but there was mention in the whispers and
memories of something to do with electricity so it makes some sense -
and I cannot help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine
that any sort of electrical installer would need any form of shop
premises, the area was very poor so unlikely to attract many retail
customers, what is left? Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio
batteries? Fixing appliances?

It would help if you could expound on your source for "shown to occupy
premises in Bethnal Green". Eg in 1921 Bethnal Green was still a
distinct registration district so if that is what you meant then it
covered a pretty big area[1] and not just what today might be seen as
Bethnal Green. If you don't have an address you could try one of the
sites which try to index the area. Eg you clould search for him and/or
his professed occupation at http://london1912.co.uk/index.shtml You'll
find a fair few electrical engineers around the area as it was a big
manufacturing area so a lot of call for lighting installations, power
etc. You could of course also care to try one of the UK FH groups.

[]1 'Er indoors has been deep into her FH for 20+ years so I've had a
fair bit soak into me - a bit like living next in Windscale.

Source is he

http://london1912.co.uk/streets/HareStreet.shtml

Together with information from other sources, this makes sense. Which
will be no surprise to you!

--
Rod

On 12/27/2012 12:42 PM, Robin wrote:

It would help if you could expound on your source for "shown to occupy
premises in Bethnal Green". Eg in 1921 Bethnal Green was still a
distinct registration district so if that is what you meant then it
covered a pretty big area[1] and not just what today might be seen as
Bethnal Green. If you don't have an address you could try one of the
sites which try to index the area. Eg you clould search for him and/or
his professed occupation at http://london1912.co.uk/index.shtml You'll
find a fair few electrical engineers around the area as it was a big
manufacturing area so a lot of call for lighting installations, power
etc. You could of course also care to try one of the UK FH groups.


soc.genealogy.britain would be my suggestion.
It's a bit like the uk.d-i-y of genealogy.

"polygonum" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2012 17:42, Robin wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green
in 1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can
explain what he did but there was mention in the whispers and
memories of something to do with electricity so it makes some sense -
and I cannot help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine
that any sort of electrical installer would need any form of shop
premises, the area was very poor so unlikely to attract many retail
customers, what is left? Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio
batteries? Fixing appliances?

It would help if you could expound on your source for "shown to occupy
premises in Bethnal Green". Eg in 1921 Bethnal Green was still a
distinct registration district so if that is what you meant then it
covered a pretty big area[1] and not just what today might be seen as
Bethnal Green. If you don't have an address you could try one of the
sites which try to index the area. Eg you clould search for him and/or
his professed occupation at http://london1912.co.uk/index.shtml You'll
find a fair few electrical engineers around the area as it was a big
manufacturing area so a lot of call for lighting installations, power
etc. You could of course also care to try one of the UK FH groups.

[]1 'Er indoors has been deep into her FH for 20+ years so I've had a
fair bit soak into me - a bit like living next in Windscale.

Source is he

http://london1912.co.uk/streets/HareStreet.shtml

Looks like plenty of shops catering to retail customers to me.

Together with information from other sources, this makes sense. Which will
be no surprise to you!

polygonum wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

Present day shop :-http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7twhan

Engineer tends to be used as a catch all term hence domestic engineer
(cleaner) traffic management engineer (parking attendant) so
electrical engineer may well apply to electricians

On 27/12/2012 20:59, soup wrote:
polygonum wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

Present day shop :-http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7twhan

Engineer tends to be used as a catch all term hence domestic engineer
(cleaner) traffic management engineer (parking attendant) so
electrical engineer may well apply to electricians


Unfortunately that link drops me in a login page for Sky drive.

--
Rod

polygonum wrote:
On 27/12/2012 20:59, soup wrote:
polygonum wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

Present day shop :-http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7twhan

Engineer tends to be used as a catch all term hence domestic engineer
(cleaner) traffic management engineer (parking attendant) so
electrical engineer may well apply to electricians


Unfortunately that link drops me in a login page for Sky drive.

If it's link to a picture showing the only Hare Street in London now (In
SE18, AKA Greenwich), it's the wrong one, anyway. Hare Street in Bethnal
Green seems to have been renamed or removed since 1921, and the area is
very indistinct on the August 1945 aerial pictures. Brick Lane still
exists, but none of the other streets referred to in the directory
listing do, since the area was rebuilt after The Blitz flattened that
bit of London. Hare Street apparently sort of followed the current
Cheshire Street's course, with No. 80 being not far from the existing
Three Colts Corner.

It's interesting the way that locality names survive in London long
after their reason for being called by that name.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:32:38 +0000 Polygonum wrote :
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

Sounds a little early for charging radio batteries, though that's how Comet
started in the 1930s

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on',
Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:32:38 +0000, polygonum
wrote:

Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

All of those. Many electricians (or more usually their wife) ran a
shop selling electrical goods as well as providing a repair service
for radio and TV sets, domestic appliances etc. Work during the day
would often be rewiring or wiring, repairs took place evenings and
weekends.

Those sort of shops survived up into the 70's.

"charles" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Many electricians had shops much later than that - I can remember several
in Aberdeen in the '50s. Selling batteries, torches, cable, plugs etc. As
well as taking the order for house wiring work.

There was retail price maintenance in those days, so no cheap supermarket
batteries. Or supermarkets, come to that. If was also fairly common for a
plumber/electrician shop, selling baths and basins etc as well as
electrical stuff. Had a relation who owned one.

and another Scottish phenomenon was fishing tackle and tv sets.

--

Are you not thinking about darts and TV sets?

Alan

On 27/12/2012 23:06, Alan wrote:


"charles" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Many electricians had shops much later than that - I can remember several
in Aberdeen in the '50s. Selling batteries, torches, cable, plugs etc. As
well as taking the order for house wiring work.

There was retail price maintenance in those days, so no cheap
supermarket
batteries. Or supermarkets, come to that. If was also fairly common for a
plumber/electrician shop, selling baths and basins etc as well as
electrical stuff. Had a relation who owned one.

and another Scottish phenomenon was fishing tackle and tv sets.

Some countries have some very odd combos like that - usually some good
reason. I guess people get hooked on TV?

--
Rod

On 27/12/2012 21:47, John Williamson wrote:
polygonum wrote:
On 27/12/2012 20:59, soup wrote:
polygonum wrote:
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal
Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any
sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

Present day shop :-http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7twhan

Engineer tends to be used as a catch all term hence domestic engineer
(cleaner) traffic management engineer (parking attendant) so
electrical engineer may well apply to electricians


Unfortunately that link drops me in a login page for Sky drive.

If it's link to a picture showing the only Hare Street in London now (In
SE18, AKA Greenwich), it's the wrong one, anyway. Hare Street in Bethnal
Green seems to have been renamed or removed since 1921, and the area is
very indistinct on the August 1945 aerial pictures. Brick Lane still
exists, but none of the other streets referred to in the directory
listing do, since the area was rebuilt after The Blitz flattened that
bit of London. Hare Street apparently sort of followed the current
Cheshire Street's course, with No. 80 being not far from the existing
Three Colts Corner.

It's interesting the way that locality names survive in London long
after their reason for being called by that name.

Yes - Hare Street has been renamed, IIRC. Now, inasmuch as it exists,
Cheshire Street.

--
Rod

Brick
Lane still exists, but none of the other streets referred to in the
directory listing do, since the area was rebuilt after The Blitz
flattened that bit of London.

Up to a point. There are other streets near there which have kept their
names. Eg Sclater Street (which is sort of the continuation of Hare
Street on the West side of Brick Lane and is listed in the 1921
Directory). Ditto Bethnal Green Road. And while the blitz did a great
deal of damage there are a fair few buildings surviving nearby,
including in Cheshire Street the mildly infamous Carpenter's Arms.

Hare Street apparently sort of followed
the current Cheshire Street's course, with No. 80 being not far from
the existing Three Colts Corner.

Yep - Hare St was what is now the Western part of Cheshire Street - as
the OP can see on the Bartholomew's of the time thanks to
http://www.hipkiss.org/data/maps/bar...0_1473_600.jpg

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

soc.genealogy.britain would be my suggestion.
It's a bit like the uk.d-i-y of genealogy.

I have been advised, rather sniffily, that they do *not* resort to angle
grinders - not even when faced with a really overgrown memorial
inscriptions

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On 12/27/2012 6:45 PM, Robin wrote:
soc.genealogy.britain would be my suggestion.
It's a bit like the uk.d-i-y of genealogy.

I have been advised, rather sniffily, that they do *not* resort to angle
grinders - not even when faced with a really overgrown memorial
inscriptions

Power washers, then?

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:32:38 +0000, polygonum
wrote:

My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

I have a series of five books called "Electrical Installations"
written in 1902 by a Rankin Kennedy C.E.
He makes the comment in Vol III:-

"The apprentice "electrical engineer" - using the term for those
employed in actual manufacturing, installation, and generating works -
must be trained as a mechanical and steam engineer, with an elementary
knowledge of electricity and magnetism, and a general knowledge of the
principles of dynamos, motors, wires, switches, instruments, &c., such
as is found in these volumes. If the young man wishes to be an
"electrician" then he need not trouble himself with mechanical or
steam engineering, but confine his energy and time to electrical and
magnetic studies, the electrical laboratory, test room, and drawing
office.
"The great mistake made in our technical schools is the attempt to
teach too much, giving a very scanty training in many subjects,
instead of a thorough training in a few correlated subjects."

It's a fascinating series of books, dealing (in a supplementary volume
"V") with the "new" Electronic Theory.


--
Frank Erskine

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 17:12:49 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Many electricians had shops much later than that - I can remember several
in Aberdeen in the '50s. Selling batteries, torches, cable, plugs etc. As
well as taking the order for house wiring work.


Late 40's till late 60's the electrician who ran his business in the
village where I went to primary school had a small one room showroom
full of domestic electrical appliances,It wasn't staffed full time
but his wife or himself would open it when required, their house
adjoined it so often the customer would knock on the door. The
population of the immediate village at the time was less than 600.
What made having the shop a good thing was that rural
electrification programme was in full swing in the areas around the
village and the electrician was busy wiring premises either from
scratch or replacing the myriad of primitive circuits that had been
installed for home generators many of which weren't suitable for 240V
AC.
While wiring a premises he would tell the occupiers of all the
wonderful appliances that they could now use and that he could supply.
He was quite good as a salesman, carried two electric kettles in his
van, one of which was used to "test" the new sockets and a new one
ready to be sold to the now impressed customer. The sparkies wife was
a good cook and at their small showroom demonstrated Kenwood mixers
resulting in a reasonable sale of those.
It was a good couple of decades to be a self employed electrician in
such an area with a business oppurtunity unlikely to be seen again but
almost everyone around there was on the mains by 1966. Business slowed
down a fair bit after that but he had made enough to comfortably
retire in his early fifties around 1970 and was still living well till
he died recently having been "retired" longer than he worked.


G.Harman

On 28/12/2012 00:11, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:32:38 +0000, polygonum
wrote:

My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain
what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?

I have a series of five books called "Electrical Installations"
written in 1902 by a Rankin Kennedy C.E.
He makes the comment in Vol III:-

"The apprentice "electrical engineer" - using the term for those
employed in actual manufacturing, installation, and generating works -
must be trained as a mechanical and steam engineer, with an elementary
knowledge of electricity and magnetism, and a general knowledge of the
principles of dynamos, motors, wires, switches, instruments, &c., such
as is found in these volumes. If the young man wishes to be an
"electrician" then he need not trouble himself with mechanical or
steam engineering, but confine his energy and time to electrical and
magnetic studies, the electrical laboratory, test room, and drawing
office.
"The great mistake made in our technical schools is the attempt to
teach too much, giving a very scanty training in many subjects,
instead of a thorough training in a few correlated subjects."

It's a fascinating series of books, dealing (in a supplementary volume
"V") with the "new" Electronic Theory.


A bit early, but I'd guess that things didn't change that fast between
1902 and 1921 (and I do not know when he started his 'shop').

Thank you.

--
Rod

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:32:38 +0000, polygonum
wrote:

My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal Green in
1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who can explain

Are there any old photos of the street?
Try local councils, photography clubs etc.

Manchester has tons of old photos from photographic surveys. Not quite
google street view but still interesting.
http://images.manchester.gov.uk/index.php?session=pass

what he did but there was mention in the whispers and memories of
something to do with electricity so it makes some sense - and I cannot
help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't imagine that any sort of
electrical installer would need any form of shop premises, the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is left?
Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing appliances?
--
http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

soup wrote:

Present day shop :-http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7twhan

Try this link then if you haven't got (I think it's a Google) account.

http://postimage.org/image/6vjjw2z7f/

It's a shop in Juniper green on(in) the outskirts of Edinburgh not
Hare street.

On 28/12/2012 11:29, soup wrote:
soup wrote:

Present day shop :-http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7twhan

Try this link then if you haven't got (I think it's a Google) account.

http://postimage.org/image/6vjjw2z7f/

It's a shop in Juniper green on(in) the outskirts of Edinburgh not
Hare street.

Thanks - in the tradition of silly hairdresser names! :-)

--
Rod

"polygonum" wrote in message
...
My partner's grandfather is shown to occupy premises in Bethnal
Green in 1921 as an electrical engineer. There is no family left who
can explain what he did but there was mention in the whispers and
memories of something to do with electricity so it makes some
sense - and I cannot help but wonder what the term meant then. Can't
imagine that any sort of electrical installer would need any form of
shop premises,

It was a cheap way of advertising his presence. His wife or one
of the children would be in the back room and could answer any
questions and make appointments with callers if he was out on a
job. And maybe sold the odd item as well. Having his name on the
shop along his trade would create word of mouth recognition in the
district. This was in days before most people had telephones and few
people probably bought local papers simply to scour them for
advertisements for electricians or electrical engineers. He
possibly made himself known to and had reciprocal arrangements with
any local gas fitters who often doubled up with other trades. Bethnal
Green may have had factories using newly introduced electric sewing
machines band saws etc. Expansive as electric power may have been for
home
use it probably caught on sooner for commercial use.

michael adams

....




the area was
very poor so unlikely to attract many retail customers, what is
left? Selling lamp bulbs? Charging radio batteries? Fixing
appliances?

--
Rod

On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:35:16 AM UTC, polygonum wrote:

A bit early, but I'd guess that things didn't change that fast between
1902 and 1921 (and I do not know when he started his 'shop').
Thank you.

In electrical/electronic terms they changed hugely. Radio advanced from coherer sets only capable of thuds to multistage reaction sets receiving speech & music. Radio even developed enough for the first mobile phone in 1922.
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/le-...-date-de-1922/

The spread of electrification, and the spread of electric motors and heating in a fairly wide range of appliances transformed numerous tasks. Industral electrification cut many costs, improving people's standard of living. Trams went from horse pulled, spreading horse**** everywhere they went, to clean reliable electric. The use of electric elevators spread through medium & high rise buildings. Electrical safety standards were transformed over the period from suicidal to risky.

Medical uses of electricity at this time included shock coils, electromagnets for removing metal debris from eyes, the violet ray, and diathermy. There was also the spread of X ray machines through hospitals in this period.

So it was a busy period of fast technological change and rollout.


NT

On 28/12/12 14:01, wrote:
On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:35:16 AM UTC, polygonum wrote:

A bit early, but I'd guess that things didn't change that fast between
1902 and 1921 (and I do not know when he started his 'shop').
Thank you.

In electrical/electronic terms they changed hugely. Radio advanced from coherer sets only capable of thuds to multistage reaction sets receiving speech & music. Radio even developed enough for the first mobile phone in 1922.
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/le-...-date-de-1922/

The spread of electrification, and the spread of electric motors and heating in a fairly wide range of appliances transformed numerous tasks. Industral electrification cut many costs, improving people's standard of living. Trams went from horse pulled, spreading horse**** everywhere they went, to clean reliable electric. The use of electric elevators spread through medium & high rise buildings. Electrical safety standards were transformed over the period from suicidal to risky.

Medical uses of electricity at this time included shock coils, electromagnets for removing metal debris from eyes, the violet ray, and diathermy. There was also the spread of X ray machines through hospitals in this period.

So it was a busy period of fast technological change and rollout.


You forgot to say that windmills were abandoned everywhere...and
replaced with electric mills :-)

NT



--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

A bit early, but I'd guess that things didn't change that fast
between 1902 and 1921 (and I do not know when he started his 'shop').

In electrical/electronic terms they changed hugely.

In addition the *supply* of electricity expanded massively over that
period - in many areas from nil to Council supplies. (A quick look at
the LMA catalogue suggests the Bethnal Green Metropolitan Borough
Council Electricity Undertaking didn't start supplying until 1916 but I
could be misinterpreting it.)

--
Robin
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Peter Parry wrote:


Those sort of shops survived up into the 70's.

And beyond, see my posts.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
You forgot to say that windmills were abandoned everywhere...and
replaced with electric mills :-)

What goes round comes round. ;-)

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polygonum wrote

A bit early, but I'd guess that things didn't change that fast between
1902 and 1921 (and I do not know when he started his 'shop').

In electrical/electronic terms they changed hugely. Radio advanced from
coherer sets only capable of thuds to multistage reaction sets receiving
speech & music. Radio even developed enough for the first mobile phone in
1922.
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/le-...-date-de-1922/

The spread of electrification, and the spread of electric motors and
heating
in a fairly wide range of appliances transformed numerous tasks.

Yeah, very striking wandering around a vintage farm machinery
field day looking at what was used to pump the whey from the
dairy to the piggery. Quite a big engine driven pump, as big as
a modern top loader washing machine. Compare that with the
much smaller electric pump that would be used today.

Industral electrification cut many costs, improving people's
standard of living. Trams went from horse pulled, spreading
horse**** everywhere they went, to clean reliable electric.
The use of electric elevators spread through medium & high
rise buildings. Electrical safety standards were transformed
over the period from suicidal to risky.

Medical uses of electricity at this time included shock coils,
electromagnets for removing metal debris from eyes, the
violet ray, and diathermy. There was also the spread of X
ray machines through hospitals in this period.

So it was a busy period of fast technological change and rollout.

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Owain wrote:
On Dec 28, 3:25 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
You forgot to say that windmills were abandoned everywhere...and
replaced with electric mills :-)
What goes round comes round. ;-)

or in the case of windmills, quite often they don't (go round)

Owain

There used to be one or two on most small farms near Aberdeen when I was a
kid. Either charging a battery bank, or pumping water.

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