Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

--
Rod

On 20/10/2012 10:55 polygonum wrote:

Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

Caught me out a couple(?) of weeks back.

Why they've changed it I don't know.

--
F

They never did get this right. Whats up with them, its also triggering
several events for screenreaders when you open a message with the result
that the subject is spoken three times... grr.

Brian

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"polygonum" wrote in message
...
Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

--
Rod

Must be a right pain. I used to work with someone who used a little
camera and vibrating pattern device to read the screen. The huge asset
he had was that was on a green screen and many of the layouts were
highly consistent.

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker... I
have read what is required to change an older one to work, but why is
there not one? Could it not use the Firefox one?

Decided to install US English as it will catch some of my typos and am
so used to the differences, it isn't that much of a problem.

On 20/10/2012 11:29, Brian Gaff wrote:
They never did get this right. Whats up with them, its also triggering
several events for screenreaders when you open a message with the result
that the subject is spoken three times... grr.

Brian


--
Rod

On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/
with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

--
F

On 20/10/2012 13:16, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/
with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

When I add that, it does not become an option. Thought it did not work
above release 15?

--
Rod

On 20/10/2012 14:28, polygonum wrote:
On 20/10/2012 13:16, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/

with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

When I add that, it does not become an option. Thought it did not work
above release 15?


I have 16.0.1 and the British English dictionary works fine on mine.
Colour or color. Yep, picks up the British spelling as correct and the
American as incorrect.

On 20/10/2012 13:28 polygonum wrote:

On 20/10/2012 13:16, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/

with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

When I add that, it does not become an option. Thought it did not work
above release 15?

If I click on Add-ons it's there, and there is an option to remove it.
It also underlines tryping (it picked that one up) errors.

Have you gone to Tools Options Composition Spelling tab and
checked that both boxes are ticked?

--
F

On 20/10/2012 15:25, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 13:28 polygonum wrote:

On 20/10/2012 13:16, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/


with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

When I add that, it does not become an option. Thought it did not work
above release 15?

If I click on Add-ons it's there, and there is an option to remove it.
It also underlines tryping (it picked that one up) errors.

Have you gone to Tools Options Composition Spelling tab and
checked that both boxes are ticked?

Certainly have. I can get Australian, Canadian & US English to work
without any problems. I can follow the link from earlier and download UK
English no problem. Even restarts OK.

But I cannot select UK English from the dialogue box - only switch
between the other three variants.

Maybe it was already installed and active for you before you upgraded to
16.0.1?

--
Rod

On 20/10/2012 16:22 polygonum wrote:

On 20/10/2012 15:25, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 13:28 polygonum wrote:

On 20/10/2012 13:16, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/



with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

When I add that, it does not become an option. Thought it did not work
above release 15?

If I click on Add-ons it's there, and there is an option to remove it.
It also underlines tryping (it picked that one up) errors.

Have you gone to Tools Options Composition Spelling tab and
checked that both boxes are ticked?

Certainly have. I can get Australian, Canadian & US English to work
without any problems. I can follow the link from earlier and download UK
English no problem. Even restarts OK.

But I cannot select UK English from the dialogue box - only switch
between the other three variants.

Maybe it was already installed and active for you before you upgraded to
16.0.1?

It was, yes.

Install an earlier version of Thunderbird and then update? Not exactly
elegant but it might get you what you want...

--
F

On 20/10/2012 16:42, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 16:22 polygonum wrote:

On 20/10/2012 15:25, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 13:28 polygonum wrote:

On 20/10/2012 13:16, F wrote:
On 20/10/2012 12:47 polygonum wrote:

It would also be really nice to have a UK English spelling checker...

I use the 'British English Dictionary 1.19.1' at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...sh-dictionary/




with Thunderbird 16.0.1.

When I add that, it does not become an option. Thought it did not work
above release 15?

If I click on Add-ons it's there, and there is an option to remove it.
It also underlines tryping (it picked that one up) errors.

Have you gone to Tools Options Composition Spelling tab and
checked that both boxes are ticked?

Certainly have. I can get Australian, Canadian & US English to work
without any problems. I can follow the link from earlier and download UK
English no problem. Even restarts OK.

But I cannot select UK English from the dialogue box - only switch
between the other three variants.

Maybe it was already installed and active for you before you upgraded to
16.0.1?

It was, yes.

Install an earlier version of Thunderbird and then update? Not exactly
elegant but it might get you what you want...

I too have been caught out. I got quite an irritable email from the
person to whom I had replied. I must say I did not think many peeps
actually used their genuine email addresses in groups. Also I thought I
would try to rearrange the options at the bottom of the page so that
Followup was in front of Reply, but all I could do was delete Reply,
which was not what I wanted.

On 21/10/2012 11:04, Broadback wrote:


I too have been caught out. I got quite an irritable email from the
person to whom I had replied. I must say I did not think many peeps
actually used their genuine email addresses in groups. Also I thought I
would try to rearrange the options at the bottom of the page so that
Followup was in front of Reply, but all I could do was delete Reply,
which was not what I wanted.

If I have inadvertently emailed anyone, I apologise. But it's hardly a
hanging offence - I'd only be annoyed if someone keeps on doing it.

--
Rod

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:11:20 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 21/10/2012 11:04, Broadback wrote:


I too have been caught out. I got quite an irritable email from the
person to whom I had replied. I must say I did not think many peeps
actually used their genuine email addresses in groups. Also I thought I
would try to rearrange the options at the bottom of the page so that
Followup was in front of Reply, but all I could do was delete Reply,
which was not what I wanted.

If I have inadvertently emailed anyone, I apologise. But it's hardly a
hanging offence - I'd only be annoyed if someone keeps on doing it.

Last week I had an e-mail from someone in this group. It was obviuously a
reply to the group but I would have thought that my addy would need editing
before the path is valid.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

In message , F
writes
On 20/10/2012 10:55 polygonum wrote:

Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

Caught me out a couple(?) of weeks back.

Why they've changed it I don't know.

Is it not just fixing something they 'accidentally' wrongly switched a
couple of changes ago? They now have it right (well, it's the same as my
news client 'Turnpike' has always been).
--
Ian

In message , Ian Jackson
writes
In message , F
writes
On 20/10/2012 10:55 polygonum wrote:

Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

Caught me out a couple(?) of weeks back.

Why they've changed it I don't know.

Is it not just fixing something they 'accidentally' wrongly switched a
couple of changes ago? They now have it right (well, it's the same as
my news client 'Turnpike' has always been).
And have you ever known Turnpike to be wrong when it comes to standards?
--
hugh

In message , polygonum
writes
On 21/10/2012 11:04, Broadback wrote:


I too have been caught out. I got quite an irritable email from the
person to whom I had replied. I must say I did not think many peeps
actually used their genuine email addresses in groups. Also I thought I
would try to rearrange the options at the bottom of the page so that
Followup was in front of Reply, but all I could do was delete Reply,
which was not what I wanted.

If I have inadvertently emailed anyone, I apologise. But it's hardly a
hanging offence - I'd only be annoyed if someone keeps on doing it.

How do you hang someone in a non-binary newsgroup?
--
hugh

On 21/10/2012 21:31, hugh wrote:
In message , polygonum
writes
On 21/10/2012 11:04, Broadback wrote:


I too have been caught out. I got quite an irritable email from the
person to whom I had replied. I must say I did not think many peeps
actually used their genuine email addresses in groups. Also I thought I
would try to rearrange the options at the bottom of the page so that
Followup was in front of Reply, but all I could do was delete Reply,
which was not what I wanted.

If I have inadvertently emailed anyone, I apologise. But it's hardly a
hanging offence - I'd only be annoyed if someone keeps on doing it.

How do you hang someone in a non-binary newsgroup?


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In message , hugh
] writes
In message , Ian Jackson
writes
In message , F
writes
On 20/10/2012 10:55 polygonum wrote:

Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

Caught me out a couple(?) of weeks back.

Why they've changed it I don't know.

Is it not just fixing something they 'accidentally' wrongly switched a
couple of changes ago? They now have it right (well, it's the same as
my news client 'Turnpike' has always been).
And have you ever known Turnpike to be wrong when it comes to standards?

Well, you know what they say about 'standards'....
--
Ian

On 21/10/2012 18:59, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , F
writes
On 20/10/2012 10:55 polygonum wrote:

Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

Caught me out a couple(?) of weeks back.

Why they've changed it I don't know.

Is it not just fixing something they 'accidentally' wrongly switched a
couple of changes ago?

No. I've been using TB since the very early versions and I don't
remember the reply button doing anything other than replying to the
newsgroup prior to a few weeks ago.

I'm still using v2.0.0.23 at work, so I took a look at the newsgroup
behaviour in that just to check my memory. Sure enough, the reply
button replies to group.

They now have it right (well, it's the same as my
news client 'Turnpike' has always been).

If it had been like it from day one then I think there might be a good
argument for saying that it's not wrong.

But it hasn't, and to make a major change like this to something that
users have been used to for many years, without requiring users to
change a setting somewhere to enable the new behaviour, is very sloppy
programming IMHO.

--
Danny Colyer http://www.redpedals.co.uk
"I'm riding a unicycle with my pants down. This should be every boy's
dream." - Bartholomew J Simpson

On 26/10/2012 19:30, Danny Colyer wrote:

But it hasn't, and to make a major change like this to something that
users have been used to for many years, without requiring users to
change a setting somewhere to enable the new behaviour, is very sloppy
programming IMHO.

Not programming, design. I suspect what happened is somebody got all
pedantic, and too many pedantic people agreed and not enough sane people
were there to argue for the status quo. The joys of a project led by
programmers - it's one of the failings of open source. Any closed-source
product would have had the business side saying "No, changing that is
just dim, live with it".

Still, it remains a pretty good product, and generally speaking a good
example of how open source can work.

On 20/10/2012 10:55, polygonum wrote:
Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

annoying I agree

On 31/10/12 20:30, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 20/10/2012 10:55, polygonum wrote:
Am now getting the Reply is reply to person; Followup is reply to group.
Damn them.

16.0.1

annoying I agree
just remove the reply to button


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