I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox &
Thunderbird seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent
"enhancements" to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

Another Dave

Another Dave wrote:
I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox &
Thunderbird seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent
"enhancements" to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

'Cos they got bored supporting it?

Or because some of the security flaws that have been found can't be
fixed without a total re-write?

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Tciao for Now!

John.

On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:47:40 -0000, Another Dave
wrote:

I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox &
Thunderbird seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent
"enhancements" to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

Another Dave

After years of using Mozilla stuff but late last year:

I had problems with Thunderbird using it with Eternal September (now moved
to opera for NGs and RSS)

I had problems with Firefox needing to try and load many pages more than
once. (Now using Chrome)

Another Dave wrote:
I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox &
Thunderbird seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent
"enhancements" to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.


ahh.. that's still the default 'icedove' here..(Debian Lenny)

As you say, when running well, leave well alone..

I recently 'upgraded' to Firefox 9 and its broken half my usual
websites..they are not intending to fix it before version 10..

Meanwhile I am using Ie6 in a virtual machine that I have for 'making
sure web sites will work with IE6'



Why don't they leave things alone?


Because as I discovered many years ago successful engineers destroy the
jobs they just had..

...come 1983 there really wasn't anything left to do in analogue
electronics that a competent technician couldn't do except in RF and I
was bored with that, or chip design, but that meant moving to the far
east or California..




Another Dave

I have no idea, but its a pain in the neck. In a way it makes many go and
download windows live mail, which is simple effective and seems to work on
most versions of windows and needs no extras. its enough like this Outlook
Express to make conversion to it easy for those used to Microsoft stuff.
Brian

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"Another Dave" wrote in message
...
I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox & Thunderbird
seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent "enhancements"
to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

Another Dave

But security issues do not deman a complete rewrite of the way it works only
of the code with the holes.
Brian

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"John Williamson" wrote in message
...
Another Dave wrote:
I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox & Thunderbird
seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent "enhancements"
to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

'Cos they got bored supporting it?

Or because some of the security flaws that have been found can't be fixed
without a total re-write?

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

Brian Gaff wrote:
But security issues do not deman a complete rewrite of the way it works only
of the code with the holes.
Brian

Sometimes it gets to the point where the attempts to block the holes
mean that the code and documentation are so tangled that a re-write is
the easiest and most sensible option.

You're right, though, the user interface could have remained consistent
to itself, except for the way that there was pressure to make it
consistent across the whole Mozilla platform. Ghods know why, though.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 09/01/2012 17:47, Another Dave wrote:
I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox &
Thunderbird seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent
"enhancements" to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version 2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11...11_episode_17/


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Cheers,

John.

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On 09/01/2012 18:51, Paul - xxx wrote:
Another Dave wrote:

I've used the original Mozilla suite, Seamonkey and Firefox&
Thunderbird seemingly forever. I simply cannot get on with the recent
"enhancements" to Thunderbird.

Today I finally bit the bullet and reverted to the 4 year old version
2.

Bliss!

No tabs.
No 5 line headers needing the Compactheader add-on.
No double spacing all over the place requiring a special theme.
No random opening of new windows all the time (never found a cure for
this).

And it's FAST.

Why don't they leave things alone?

Heh, I'm never satisfied (not what the wife says, mind) and keep
swapping things .. but I always come back to Firefox for t'internet,
Xananews for usenet and MS Outlook for emails.

To save googling (I'm lazy) what's Sea Monkey and why should I use it?

Its the successor to the original mozilla suit that included browser,
email/news, web authoring and various other bits all in the one
integrated package.


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John.

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In message , John Williamson
writes
Brian Gaff wrote:
But security issues do not deman a complete rewrite of the way it
works only of the code with the holes.
Brian

Sometimes it gets to the point where the attempts to block the holes
mean that the code and documentation are so tangled that a re-write is
the easiest and most sensible option.

You're right, though, the user interface could have remained consistent
to itself, except for the way that there was pressure to make it
consistent across the whole Mozilla platform. Ghods know why, though.

Or maybe lots of people liked the newer interface.

eg. I much prefer the look/interface of the current Firefox (and Chrome
and IE and Opera....) to the old one.


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Chris French