In article ,
Adam Funk wrote:
That's another reason I'm glad I have the kettle & toaster in
different corners of the kitchen. :-)

Those would be an acceptable load on a double socket in a house. They're
only in use for a short period.

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In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
On 20/09/2012 11:33, Fred wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:14:49 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

In some cases appliances are hidden in "kitchen unit door" faced
enclosures...

I don't have anything that posh All of mine are freestanding.

Well same here (unless you include a fridge), but some folks like to
play the "hunt the appliance" game ;-)

The neon only lights when the switch is on.

Yes, the point I was trying to make is the neon tells you that the
switch is on, not that the appliance is drawing power. If the
appliance did not work, you would still need to plug something into
the socket to check that it had a voltage across it.

I can't think of an obvious reason why the socket would not be working -
if the light is on, since there is no fuse, then the socket must be live.

If the socket is not working when the neon is on then there could be a
broken wire between the neon (on the switch) and the socket.

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In article ,
charles wrote:
If the socket is not working when the neon is on then there could be a
broken wire between the neon (on the switch) and the socket.

And neons (or their dropper resistor) can fail.

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On 2012-09-20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Adam Funk wrote:
That's another reason I'm glad I have the kettle & toaster in
different corners of the kitchen. :-)

Those would be an acceptable load on a double socket in a house. They're
only in use for a short period.

And my toaster's only 1.8 kW.

On 19/09/2012 15:21, Fred wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:34 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote:

We've just had the dishwasher catching fire thread.

I must have missed that one; what was it called?

It's in "Looking for solution for delayed start of Tumble Dryer".

Andy

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:57:45 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

I can't think of an obvious reason why the socket would not be working -
if the light is on, since there is no fuse, then the socket must be live.

Yes, I almost wish I hadn't said it now

Here's my best attempt at getting out of the hole I have dug for
myself:

My oven switch has a neon light but I cannot see the point of having a
neon when I can tell that the oven drawing power because its clock is
on. Similarly my washing machine and dishwasher have displays.

So I was thinking neons would be more useful when the appliance was
remote from the switch but I suppose I was thinking that just because
there is a neon glowing, doesn't mean that the device at the other end
of the wire is working. It might be something as daft as the freezer
in the garage has been unplugged to use the socket for the lawnmower,
or the freezer could be plugged in but have broken down and thawed
out, sot he neon can not be relied upon as an indicator of the
appliance working.

To give a real-life example: at my old house, the immersion heater
switch had a neon and the neon was still alight even though the heater
had failed.

But I realise that these are outside the kitchen setting of the OP.
The only thing there would be if one of the wires was not screwed into
the socket or the switch properly, which I realise would be rare.

I was thinking that in the event of a fault I would check the socket
first but now that I think about it, like you say, it is unlikely the
socket wiring would have failed, so I was probably making unnecessary
work for myself! if I have to do this for real, I will have more
confidence in the socket now and miss that step out.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:40:01 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote:

It's in "Looking for solution for delayed start of Tumble Dryer".

I even posted in that! How embarrassing! I don't remember a dishwasher
catching fire though; I thought it was about tumble dryers catching
fire?