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Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Phil |
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On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:34:12 AM UTC+1, TheScullster wrote:
Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Is it a return ticket with some restrictions ? Can she just use the return portion to come back and chuck the outward bound in the bin ? Simon. |
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"TheScullster" writes: Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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"sm_jamieson" wrote Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Is it a return ticket with some restrictions ? Can she just use the return portion to come back and chuck the outward bound in the bin ? Simon. From what others have told me it is standard practice to do just that! I will get her to check and make sure there are no restrictions to prevent her doing it. Phil |
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On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:48:16 AM UTC+1, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "TheScullster" writes: Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is �518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is �128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. That sounds like an absurdity. But actually, it may not be because they are reducing the likelihood of you using a competitor on the other leg by such a pricing. So, how to "use" the other leg without traveling anywhere or committing fraud ? Simon. |
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"TheScullster" wrote in message
. uk... "sm_jamieson" wrote Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Is it a return ticket with some restrictions ? Can she just use the return portion to come back and chuck the outward bound in the bin ? Simon. From what others have told me it is standard practice to do just that! I will get her to check and make sure there are no restrictions to prevent her doing it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No it isn't. If you don't use the outbound part of a ticket the return part becomes void Standard practice is to book the part that you want to use as the outbound part and throw the return part away tim |
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On 01/08/2012 10:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "TheScullster" writes: Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. The railways in this country has similar rip off's. If you are travelling from A to B via C it is often cheaper to buy A to B then B to C. However they often put caveats on this to make it difficult, if not impossible. Why the authorities that supposedly control these transports cannot or will not sort it it annoying beyond reason. -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire |
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On 01/08/2012 10:34 TheScullster wrote:
Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Is that pricing with the airline direct? Has she tried getting a price through Opodo or Kayak? She may also be able to get some cashback through TopCashBack at http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/digital (referral link). As others have said, she may well run into problems if she fails to take the first leg of a return ticket. -- F |
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In message , tim.....
writes "TheScullster" wrote in message .uk... "sm_jamieson" wrote Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Is it a return ticket with some restrictions ? Can she just use the return portion to come back and chuck the outward bound in the bin ? Simon. From what others have told me it is standard practice to do just that! I will get her to check and make sure there are no restrictions to prevent her doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- No it isn't. If you don't use the outbound part of a ticket the return part becomes void Standard practice is to book the part that you want to use as the outbound part and throw the return part away Advice from s-i-l who travels a lot! Don't book the ticket using the computer you used to check the prices as the cost may mysteriously have risen. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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On 01/08/2012 10:34, TheScullster wrote:
Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Phil Buy a return ticket and only use one portion. Airlines want to sell return fares |
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TheScullster writes Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Well, my daughter had to be got to South Africa and back this week and, of course, she had no money. So, I tried to book by phone, only to find I needed to have 2 credit cards to do this, and BA couldn't accept the second one (which I never use). Some hours wasted on phone to bank, who said it must be BA as the card was fine. So went on line. Immediately got BA's error message apologising that "our system is not responding". Eventually got online to discover they needed passport details. Had to ring daughter who had to find details and text. Booked flights, then had to wait to print boarding pass, as this had to be done online not earlier than 24hours before flight. Deal offered to upgrade seat at a price that made me think "Jeez". Tried dummy runs on BA site and got about 50% BA error messages, then at 24 hours had to delay tea to check in. Error messages again. Eventually go through and printed pass etc. On the flight out daughter was ill, so pleaded to be upgraded for return. Went online and checked the price - still the same, so texted daughter and said would do it. Went back online and had hours of BA error messages, then eventually got through to find upgrade price had more than doubled. More texts, daughter saying not worth it, her mum saying have to upgrade. Eventually gave in and bankrupted myself by making her "Plus". Daughter got on plane and texted delight with upgraded seat. On arrival in UK texted even more delight. They had upgraded her again to first class FOC, so she had enjoyed meal and sleep all the way back. I'm in two minds about how to fill in the customer survey. Daughter thinks they are great, I think they are either incompetent or a bunch of crooks. The BA customer support said they had no abnormal computer problems. It makes me wonder about their computer system and whether the same man maintains the fly-by-wire. The single price quoted from Holland is only a bit less than the original price to SA and back. -- Bill |
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On 01/08/2012 11:01, tim..... wrote:
"TheScullster" wrote in message . uk... "sm_jamieson" wrote Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Is it a return ticket with some restrictions ? Can she just use the return portion to come back and chuck the outward bound in the bin ? Simon. From what others have told me it is standard practice to do just that! I will get her to check and make sure there are no restrictions to prevent her doing it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No it isn't. If you don't use the outbound part of a ticket the return part becomes void More accurately is void. They won't let you use the return until you have used the outbound leg precisely because of asymmetric pricing. You may need to read a lot of *very* fine print to find these rule(s). Standard practice is to book the part that you want to use as the outbound part and throw the return part away tim But only worthwhile if the return ticket from the expensive end is cheaper. In this case Eurostar might be a much cheaper alternative. Or buy one expensive fully open ticket with unspecified return date and then use travel starting from the cheaper end to get the best deal. It depends how often you fly the route whether or not this tactic is cost effective. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote
TheScullster wrote Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. They can't if you have enough of a clue to ensure that they can't do that. |
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sm_jamieson wrote
Andrew Gabriel wrote TheScullster wrote Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. That sounds like an absurdity. But actually, it may not be because they are reducing the likelihood of you using a competitor on the other leg by such a pricing. So, how to "use" the other leg without traveling anywhere or committing fraud ? Just ensure that you can't actually make the flight you don't plan to use by showing up at the airport too late to board in time etc. Nothing they can do about that. |
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On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:06:09 PM UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote Andrew Gabriel wrote TheScullster wrote Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. That sounds like an absurdity. But actually, it may not be because they are reducing the likelihood of you using a competitor on the other leg by such a pricing. So, how to "use" the other leg without traveling anywhere or committing fraud ? Just ensure that you can't actually make the flight you don't plan to use by showing up at the airport too late to board in time etc. Nothing they can do about that. It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Simon. |
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"sm_jamieson" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:06:09 PM UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: sm_jamieson wrote Andrew Gabriel wrote TheScullster wrote Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. That sounds like an absurdity. But actually, it may not be because they are reducing the likelihood of you using a competitor on the other leg by such a pricing. So, how to "use" the other leg without traveling anywhere or committing fraud ? Just ensure that you can't actually make the flight you don't plan to use by showing up at the airport too late to board in time etc. Nothing they can do about that. It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Yeah, that's what I meant. Nothing they can do about that legally. |
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Moonraker wrote:
On 01/08/2012 10:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , "TheScullster" writes: Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. The railways in this country has similar rip off's. If you are travelling from A to B via C it is often cheaper to buy A to B then B to C. However they often put caveats on this to make it difficult, if not impossible. Why the authorities that supposedly control these transports cannot or will not sort it it annoying beyond reason. It all is a result of government fiddling. The public transport market is totally bent by regulation subsidy and taxation. -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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Went online and checked the price - still the same, so texted daughter
and said would do it. Went back online and had hours of BA error messages, then eventually got through to find upgrade price had more than doubled. More texts, daughter saying not worth it, her mum saying have to upgrade. Eventually gave in and bankrupted myself by making her "Plus". Daughter got on plane and texted delight with upgraded seat. On arrival in UK texted even more delight. They had upgraded her again to first class FOC, so she had enjoyed meal and sleep all the way back. I'm in two minds about how to fill in the customer survey. Daughter thinks they are great, I think they are either incompetent or a bunch of crooks. In the words of the Prophet... "Theres no bloke in a girls life as dependable as her dad";!. The BA customer support said they had no abnormal computer problems. It makes me wonder about their computer system and whether the same man maintains the fly-by-wire. ;!!! The single price quoted from Holland is only a bit less than the original price to SA and back. Now try the UK railways;!!!... -- Tony Sayer |
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On 8/1/2012 6:01 AM, tim..... wrote:
No it isn't. If you don't use the outbound part of a ticket the return part becomes void Standard practice is to book the part that you want to use as the outbound part and throw the return part away You beat me to it! |
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Rod Speed :
"sm_jamieson" wrote in message ... It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Yeah, that's what I meant. Nothing they can do about that legally. Oh yes there is. I've fallen foul of this problem - being denied boarding by Lufthansa in Innsbruck because I'd not taken the outbound flight from Manchester (I was delayed a couple of days by a medical problem). I looked into the terms and conditions in some detail, and while they weren't exactly clear, it was clear that failure to present yourself for check-in for the outbound flight was just cause for them cancelling your return ticket. Don't expect it to make any sense. The rules are designed to maximise their profit, not to make life comfortable for you. -- Mike Barnes |
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TheScullster wrote: Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? They work out the full fare on what they deem it costs overall, based on what percentage of the seats they'll fill. Then sell off spare capacity for what they can get - after all near anything is better than an empty seat. It's no different from buying a pair of jeans or whatever in a posh store then finding the same ones on sale in TK Max for less than half. -- *I'm pretty sure that sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 01/08/2012 12:25, Huge wrote:
On 2012-08-01, Bill wrote: The BA customer support said they had no abnormal computer problems. It's their job to lie to you. And to tell you you're the only person who has complained |
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On 01/08/2012 12:20, Huge wrote:
On 2012-08-01, TheScullster wrote: Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? If airlines sold paint. ---------------------- Customer: Hi. How much is your paint? Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends on quite a lot of things. Customer: Can you give me a guess? Is there an average price? Clerk: Our lowest price is $12 a gallon, and we have 60 different prices up to $200 a gallon. Customer: What's the difference in the paint? Clerk: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same paint. Customer: Well, then I'd like some of that $12 paint. Clerk: When do you intend to use the paint? Customer: I want to paint tomorrow. It's my day off. Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint. Customer: When would I have to paint to get the $12 paint? Clerk: You would have to start very late at night in about 3 weeks. But you will have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue painting until at least Sunday. Customer: You've got to be *&%^#@hidden* kidding! Clerk: I'll check and see if we have any paint available. Customer: You have shelves FULL of paint! I can see it! Clerk: But it doesn't mean that we have paint available. We sell only a certain number of gallons on any given weekend. Oh, and by the way, the price per gallon just went to $16. We don't have any more $12 paint. Customer: The price went up as we were talking? Clerk: Yes, sir. We change the prices and rules hundreds of times a day, and since you haven't actually walked out of the store with your paint yet, we just decided to change. I suggest you purchase your paint as soon as possible. How many gallons do you want? Customer: Well, maybe five gallons. Make that six, so I'll have enough. Clerk: Oh no, sir, you can't do that. If you buy paint and don't use it, there are penalties and possible confiscation of the paint you already have. Customer: WHAT? Clerk: We can sell enough paint to do your kitchen, bathroom, hall and north bedroom, but if you stop painting before you do the bedroom, you will lose your remaining gallons of paint. Customer: What does it matter whether I use all the paint? I already paid you for it! Clerk: We make plans based upon the idea that all our paint is used, every drop. If you don't, it causes us all sorts of problems. Customer: This is crazy!! I suppose something terrible happens if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night! Clerk: Oh yes! Every gallon you bought automatically becomes the $200 paint. Customer: But what are all these, "Paint on sale from $10 a gallon" signs? Clerk: Well that's for our budget paint. It only comes in half-gallons. One $5 half-gallon will do half a room. The second half-gallon to complete the room is $20. None of the cans have labels, some are empty and there are no refunds, even on the empty cans. Customer: To hell with this! I'll buy what I need somewhere else! Clerk: I don't think so, sir. You may be able to buy paint for your bathroom and bedrooms, and your kitchen and dining room from someone else, but you won't be able to paint your connecting hall and stairway from anyone but us. And I should point out, sir, that if you paint in only one direction, it will be $300 a gallon. Customer: I thought your most expensive paint was $200! Clerk: That's if you paint around the room to the point at which you started. A hallway is different. Customer: And if I buy $200 paint for the hall, but only paint in one direction, you'll confiscate the remaining paint. Clerk: No, we'll charge you an extra use fee plus the difference on your next gallon of paint. But I believe you're getting it now, sir. Customer: You're insane! Clerk: Thanks for painting with United. The net result of all this is that I will probably never go anywhere ever again, which doesn't bother me because everywhere looks the same anyway |
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On 2012-08-01, stuart noble wrote:
On 01/08/2012 12:25, Huge wrote: On 2012-08-01, Bill wrote: The BA customer support said they had no abnormal computer problems. It's their job to lie to you. And to tell you you're the only person who has complained Yabbut that's a subclass of lying to you, so it doesn't count as a separate offence. :-( |
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On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:19:44 PM UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"sm_jamieson" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:06:09 PM UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: sm_jamieson wrote Andrew Gabriel wrote TheScullster wrote Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? Very common. Single fares are mosly business expenses. Returns, particularly over a weekend, are priced for holidays. Beware of buying a return and only using one half - some carriers will then charge you the extra cost of a single fare. That sounds like an absurdity. But actually, it may not be because they are reducing the likelihood of you using a competitor on the other leg by such a pricing. So, how to "use" the other leg without traveling anywhere or committing fraud ? Just ensure that you can't actually make the flight you don't plan to use by showing up at the airport too late to board in time etc. Nothing they can do about that. It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Yeah, that's what I meant. Nothing they can do about that legally. Yes, just make sure you book the air return before the ferry journey ! Simon. |
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On 01/08/2012 12:20, Huge wrote:
Customer: I want to paint tomorrow. It's my day off. Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint. It reminds me of the "process" where I work. In order to reduce costs any requests for flights have to go through an approval loop. Look up the cost of a Easy Jet flight, say £40, but it cannot be purchased this time because the amount has to go on a form to be signed. Two days later all the approvals for the flight have been obtained but now the cost for the same flight has risen to £200+  -- mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On 01/08/2012 13:01, Mike Barnes wrote:
Rod Speed : "sm_jamieson" wrote in message ... It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Yeah, that's what I meant. Nothing they can do about that legally. Oh yes there is. I've fallen foul of this problem - being denied boarding by Lufthansa in Innsbruck because I'd not taken the outbound flight from Manchester (I was delayed a couple of days by a medical problem). I looked into the terms and conditions in some detail, and while they weren't exactly clear, it was clear that failure to present yourself for check-in for the outbound flight was just cause for them cancelling your return ticket. Don't expect it to make any sense. The rules are designed to maximise their profit, not to make life comfortable for you. Exactly. The ticket is a contract. If you break the contract, it's breach of contract. If you do it deliberately with the intention of gaining financially, it is fraud, i.e. a criminal rather than a civil offence. |
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"Bill" wrote in message ...
In message , TheScullster writes Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! Well, my daughter had to be got to South Africa and back this week and, of course, she had no money. So, I tried to book by phone, only to find I needed to have 2 credit cards to do this, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ why do you need 2 credit cards? tim |
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Huge writes: On 2012-08-01, alan wrote: Look up the cost of a Easy Jet flight, say £40, but it cannot be purchased this time because the amount has to go on a form to be signed. Two days later all the approvals for the flight have been obtained but now the cost for the same flight has risen to £200+ The last time I went to the States for my employer, I sourced the flight myself. After I returned I got a sniffy phone call from Travel asking why I'd bought my own flight rather than getting it through them. "Because I got it £700 cheaper than you did" was my answer. There was a long silence. Travel is outsourced to an agent. It's in their interest that the flights be as expensive as possible. Nods, on both counts... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:48:18 +0100, S Viemeister
wrote: On 8/1/2012 6:01 AM, tim..... wrote: No it isn't. If you don't use the outbound part of a ticket the return part becomes void Standard practice is to book the part that you want to use as the outbound part and throw the return part away You beat me to it! Could be worth trying other airports |
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Huge wrote:
On 2012-08-01, Bill wrote: The BA customer support said they had no abnormal computer problems. It's their job to lie to you. There is a airline that I have been involved with who do that very well. they have a tick box on their paper and online documents that say "please don't spam me". It doesn't matter if you check the box or not they will spam you. When you get the spam it has opt-out link. This does nothing. Click it as much as you like. It will tell you that you have unsubscribed and do nothing. The only way to get off their list is to phone their legal branch and shout about the DPA. This lasts until the next time you fly with them. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote:
"sm_jamieson" wrote in message ... It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Yeah, that's what I meant. Oh look, a classic demo of the Rod Speed 20:20 hindsight in operation. |
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Huge wrote:
The only caveat is that the train must stop at the stations where you break your journey. I do this every week, only it's A - B - C - D - E. This saves me over 50% on the journey. I've been doing it for several years and only had a couple of rows with ticket inspectors who don't understand their own rules. I can see why they are suspicious - they think you're "dumbelling", only buying tickets for A to B and D to E. I buy a season from Robertsbridge to Oxted via London as it is a few hundred quid less than Robertsbridge to London Terminals - go figure... -- Tim Watts |
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On 2012-08-01, stuart noble wrote:
The net result of all this is that I will probably never go anywhere ever again, which doesn't bother me because everywhere looks the same anyway See also Yorkshire Airlines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjJFv1NDBg |
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:16:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote: Don't book the ticket using the computer you used to check the prices as the cost may mysteriously have risen. That's normal anyway - as time towards the flight marches on, the price rises as fewer seats become available. If you mean your s i l has confirmed this with her own PC simultaneously with another PC, then obviously some sneaky trick with cookies is going on - just flush the buggers out. |
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:53:35 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:16:26 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote: Don't book the ticket using the computer you used to check the prices as the cost may mysteriously have risen. That's normal anyway - as time towards the flight marches on, the price rises as fewer seats become available. If you mean your s i l has confirmed this with her own PC simultaneously with another PC, then obviously some sneaky trick with cookies is going on - just flush the buggers out. I don't suppose the OP wants to know I have booked separately Malaga to Stansted and Stansted to Malaga for about £40 each way including fees etc. A different airport and a taxi might be cheaper. |
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TheScullster wrote:
Hi all Yes D-I-Y this is not! Er indoors is taking daughter to Holland via ferry but wants to fly back from Schipol to Humberside. The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 total all in!! How do they work that lot out? That's as silly as the Severn Bridge crossing only charging you to get into Wales. -- Adam |
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TheScullster wrote:
The price for a single flight back from Schipol is £518.49. But, if she books flights both ways starting Humberside, the cost is £128 Careful ... if she doesn't use the outbound she may find the return is cancelled. |
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On 01/08/2012 17:53 Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
If you mean your s i l has confirmed this with her own PC simultaneously with another PC, then obviously some sneaky trick with cookies is going on - just flush the buggers out. Or search using one browser and book using another. -- F |
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Mike Barnes wrote
Rod Speed wrote sm_jamieson wrote It might be a good idea to "miss" the flight before you take the ferry over there though. Then you can legitimately say you took the ferry instead. Yeah, that's what I meant. Nothing they can do about that legally. Oh yes there is. Oh no there isn't. I've fallen foul of this problem - being denied boarding by Lufthansa in Innsbruck because I'd not taken the outbound flight from Manchester (I was delayed a couple of days by a medical problem). That's not the same thing as deliberately arriving at the airport too late to board the flight and forfeiting that leg of the ticket because of that. I looked into the terms and conditions in some detail, and while they weren't exactly clear, it was clear that failure to present yourself for check-in for the outbound flight was just cause for them cancelling your return ticket. So you actually present yourself too late to be allowed to board the flight and then there isnt a damned thing they can do about that. The can't legally refuse to allow you to use the return leg. Don't expect it to make any sense. The rules are designed to maximise their profit, not to make life comfortable for you. Sure, but it isnt hard to drive a truck thru their stupid system. |
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