I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

On Jun 5, 9:03*am, newshound wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 9:03:53 AM UTC+1, newshound wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

Well they can clog easily, especially on green leafy foliage so best get one that is easily un-clogged. We have a Bear Cat machine that required the removal of 4 bolts to un-clog it. That got tired very quick so I stuck a hinge on it to allow the feed funnel fold back.

But they are useful for making compost.

On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

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Reentrant

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 01:56:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly.

Only the hi-speed rotary type are really noisy, clogging is down to
feeding the thing too much soft green material. Best to leave fresh
trimmings to dry for a few days before shredding.

--
Cheers
Dave.

"Reentrant" wrote in message
...

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a meat-mincer)
and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

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Reentrant

Seconded. I've had one for several years and it's been very reliable, quiet
and nearly uncloggable; on the rare occasions it does clog you simply press
the 'reverse' button. It will also chomp branches up to an inch diameter,
which it self-feeds happily.

Stephen

newshound wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

yes shreddings will compost well.
Just makje suire te sgreeder is man enough for wahatver you want to put
through it.

I personally leave them where they fall and ruin a 13 hp rortary mower
over the top. A week or two later and they are all dust and ashes so to
speak.

Worms eat grass clippings and general leafiness. wood fibres seem to
meed fungal action to break them down, but it all helps make better topsoil.

I wouldn't give it to the council if you have any space to compost it -
even if its just on a patch of rough lawn.

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To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

Stephen Mawson wrote:
wrote in message
...

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a meat-mincer)
and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

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Reentrant

Seconded. I've had one for several years and it's been very reliable, quiet
and nearly uncloggable; on the rare occasions it does clog you simply press
the 'reverse' button. It will also chomp branches up to an inch diameter,
which it self-feeds happily.

Stephen


Thirded!
AXT2200
Excellent machine

On 05/06/2012 09:03, newshound wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

The bosch quiet ones are not bad. Self feeding etc. If you have one of
the older spiral feed ones, then its better to let the stuff dry for a
few days prior to shredding.

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On Jun 5, 9:03*am, newshound wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?


I have a shredder, wonderful.
Don't get the ones with the high speed rotating disk & cutters.
Get the one with the sharpened cog wheels or the worm device.
I shred all wood up the about 30mm dia & compost it.
Canb e used as a mulch to stopp weeds too.

Needs to be done when the wood is green.

On 05/06/2012 09:03, newshound wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

Thanks to all, some very useful and almost entirely consistent advice there!

On 05/06/2012 10:28, Reentrant wrote:
On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

Looking on the Bosch site, the AXT2000 Rapid and AXT2200 Rapid are both
rapid spinning blade types. The AXT 22D and 23D Quiet are the cog and
plate version while the AXT 23TC and 25TC Quiet are turbine cut which
maybe your 'mincer' version.

Have you got the models right or have Bosch changed them?

--
Pete
Lose (rhymes with fuse) is a verb, the opposite of find. Loose (rhymes
with juice) is an adjective, the opposite of tight.

On 06/06/2012 14:17, Pete Shew wrote:
On 05/06/2012 10:28, Reentrant wrote:
On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of
periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

Looking on the Bosch site, the AXT2000 Rapid and AXT2200 Rapid are both
rapid spinning blade types. The AXT 22D and 23D Quiet are the cog and
plate version while the AXT 23TC and 25TC Quiet are turbine cut which
maybe your 'mincer' version.

Have you got the models right or have Bosch changed them?


Bugger, I think they must have. Just ordered a 2200 from Amazon too.
Should have looked more carefully. OTOH Amazon seem to have a good track
record for exchanging stuff.

On Jun 6, 11:07*pm, newshound wrote:
On 06/06/2012 14:17, Pete Shew wrote:





On 05/06/2012 10:28, Reentrant wrote:
On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of
periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

Looking on the Bosch site, the AXT2000 Rapid and AXT2200 Rapid are both
rapid spinning blade types. The AXT 22D and 23D Quiet are the cog and
plate version while the AXT 23TC and 25TC Quiet are turbine cut which
maybe your 'mincer' version.

Have you got the models right or have Bosch changed them?

Bugger, I think they must have. Just ordered a 2200 from Amazon too.
Should have looked more carefully. OTOH Amazon seem to have a good track
record for exchanging stuff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Always see before you buy.

On 06/06/2012 14:17, Pete Shew wrote:
On 05/06/2012 10:28, Reentrant wrote:
On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of
periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

Looking on the Bosch site, the AXT2000 Rapid and AXT2200 Rapid are both
rapid spinning blade types. The AXT 22D and 23D Quiet are the cog and
plate version while the AXT 23TC and 25TC Quiet are turbine cut which
maybe your 'mincer' version.

Have you got the models right or have Bosch changed them?


Both - I got the models right and Bosch have changed them.

Some info he http://www.fredshed.co.uk/boschshredders.htm

Quoting: "The 22D and 25D use the same cog mechanism as my old
favourite, the AXT2200HP, but now have built in collection boxes.
The AXT23TC and AXT25TC models use a new turbine cutting mechanism that
shreds hard and soft material."

There's a video of the turbine mechanism he
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIjTVBYla4c

--
Reentrant

newshound wrote:

Bugger, I think they must have. Just ordered a 2200 from Amazon too.
Should have looked more carefully. OTOH Amazon seem to have a good track
record for exchanging stuff.

Cancel the order - you have the benefit of the Distance Selling Regulations:

http://www.onlineshoppingrights.co.u...tance-selling-
regulations.html


--
Tim Watts

In message , Tim Watts
writes
newshound wrote:

Bugger, I think they must have. Just ordered a 2200 from Amazon too.
Should have looked more carefully. OTOH Amazon seem to have a good track
record for exchanging stuff.

Cancel the order - you have the benefit of the Distance Selling Regulations:

http://www.onlineshoppingrights.co.u...tance-selling-
regulations.html


Beyond a certain point (once it's packed, being packed or something I
guess) you can't cancel an order, but there will be no problem sending
it back, though you will have to pay the return postage for a mis
purchase normally.

--
Chris French

On 05/06/2012 15:15, Bob Minchin wrote:

Thirded!
AXT2200
Excellent machine

Fourthded
Got one when we pollarded a hefty willow tree a number of years ago.
Worth the investment for that one job alone but has been great.
Used on many other annoying trees/prunings since. Faultless.

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http://www.water-rower.co.uk - Best rower ever.

On 07/06/2012 11:48, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

Fourthded

Ooops My mistake.
Looking at the current models, mine is a Drum one going by another
number in todays models.
Looks like "AXT 22 D"
When the chippings start coming out partially joined together one just
gives the face plate a "click" on the adjuster knob and off you go
again. Brilliant.

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http://www.trade-price-supplements.co.uk

On 07/06/2012 07:22, Reentrant wrote:
On 06/06/2012 14:17, Pete Shew wrote:
On 05/06/2012 10:28, Reentrant wrote:
On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so
have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of
periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my
horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

Looking on the Bosch site, the AXT2000 Rapid and AXT2200 Rapid are both
rapid spinning blade types. The AXT 22D and 23D Quiet are the cog and
plate version while the AXT 23TC and 25TC Quiet are turbine cut which
maybe your 'mincer' version.

Have you got the models right or have Bosch changed them?


Both - I got the models right and Bosch have changed them.

Some info he http://www.fredshed.co.uk/boschshredders.htm

Quoting: "The 22D and 25D use the same cog mechanism as my old
favourite, the AXT2200HP, but now have built in collection boxes.
The AXT23TC and AXT25TC models use a new turbine cutting mechanism that
shreds hard and soft material."

There's a video of the turbine mechanism he
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIjTVBYla4c

I wonder if the turbine cut versions suffer from the same problem as the
spinning plate ones, that is lack of torque leading to regular stalling
and laborious dismantling to clear.

The cog and plate would seem to be a slower, higher torque system, and
with reverse would seem to be a better bet.

--
Pete
Lose (rhymes with fuse) is a verb, the opposite of find. Loose (rhymes
with juice) is an adjective, the opposite of tight.

On 07/06/2012 14:58, Pete Shew wrote:
On 07/06/2012 07:22, Reentrant wrote:
On 06/06/2012 14:17, Pete Shew wrote:
On 05/06/2012 10:28, Reentrant wrote:
On 05/06/2012 09:56, wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:03 am, wrote:
I'm tarting up the dumping area at the end of the garden, so will be
losing my "bonfire" space. I've got assorted shrubs and a hedge so
have
a certain amount of cuttings and trimmings to get rid of
periodically. I
wondered if I can get away with a shredder (the council are going to
start collecting bagged stuff, or I guess shreddings can go on my
horse
muck-heap). Any comments, advice, recommendations on hardware?

They are useless, very very noisy and clog constantly. Only worth
considering if your garden is tiny.

Philip

Clearly you've never seen or used a Bosch Quiet Shredder.

We used to have an AXT2000 which used a spiral cutter (like a
meat-mincer) and was very quiet but did start to clog when the cutter
got blunt.

I replaced it with an AXT2200 which uses a large, slowly-turning cog
against a sacrificial plate. It's just as quiet (84dB apparently) and
never clogs.

Looking on the Bosch site, the AXT2000 Rapid and AXT2200 Rapid are both
rapid spinning blade types. The AXT 22D and 23D Quiet are the cog and
plate version while the AXT 23TC and 25TC Quiet are turbine cut which
maybe your 'mincer' version.

Have you got the models right or have Bosch changed them?


Both - I got the models right and Bosch have changed them.

Some info he http://www.fredshed.co.uk/boschshredders.htm

Quoting: "The 22D and 25D use the same cog mechanism as my old
favourite, the AXT2200HP, but now have built in collection boxes.
The AXT23TC and AXT25TC models use a new turbine cutting mechanism that
shreds hard and soft material."

There's a video of the turbine mechanism he
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIjTVBYla4c

I wonder if the turbine cut versions suffer from the same problem as the
spinning plate ones, that is lack of torque leading to regular stalling
and laborious dismantling to clear.

The cog and plate would seem to be a slower, higher torque system, and
with reverse would seem to be a better bet.


It looks look like the Turbo range are low speed / high torque like all
the other Quiet range. There's a better demo here (not an animation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZjzFFez3ps


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Reentrant