When doing Video recorder repairs.

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or 'My heads have gone. it has chewed a tape!'
or 'It wont rewind, it must be the heads'.

TV repairs

'The sound has gone off is it the TUBE?'

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or the really annoying

'It just goes ** insert fault here** , like it is now, but if you hit
it it works perfectly for 3 weeks. Look!' BASH.

Gary

On 10/05/2012 15:03, Gary wrote:
When doing Video recorder repairs.

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or 'My heads have gone. it has chewed a tape!'
or 'It wont rewind, it must be the heads'.

TV repairs

'The sound has gone off is it the TUBE?'

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or the really annoying

'It just goes ** insert fault here** , like it is now, but if you hit it
it works perfectly for 3 weeks. Look!' BASH.

Gary

I remember ... the guy who insisted on sending his c64 in for a
'service' once a year. We drew lots for that one. He smoked a pipe (lots).

The service included rinsing the PCB in Amberclens then Ambersil &
emptying the ash from the casing!

Phil.

Those sort of faults still occur. A friend of mine bought a new Sony TV,
which will go into menus and change things without any help from a person,
or drain all the colour out of a picture or turn the sound down.
In the end they gave up and gave her a new one. Mumbling something about
there must be a dodgy chip somewhere..
However, hit it and its fine for the rest of the evening.

Brian

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"Gary" wrote in message
...
When doing Video recorder repairs.

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or 'My heads have gone. it has chewed a tape!'
or 'It wont rewind, it must be the heads'.

TV repairs

'The sound has gone off is it the TUBE?'

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or the really annoying

'It just goes ** insert fault here** , like it is now, but if you hit it
it works perfectly for 3 weeks. Look!' BASH.

Gary

Brian Gaff wrote:
Those sort of faults still occur. A friend of mine bought a new Sony
TV, which will go into menus and change things without any help from
a person, or drain all the colour out of a picture or turn the sound
down. In the end they gave up and gave her a new one. Mumbling something
about there must be a dodgy chip somewhere..
However, hit it and its fine for the rest of the evening.

Brian

I agree, not being electronically minded, I often go for the 'give it a good
hiding' approach

I think surface mounted components have actually made this kind of fault
almost impossible to find aas with no actual wires holding them in, its hard
to do the wiggle it about fault finding method!

Brian

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"Phil L" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
Those sort of faults still occur. A friend of mine bought a new Sony
TV, which will go into menus and change things without any help from
a person, or drain all the colour out of a picture or turn the sound
down. In the end they gave up and gave her a new one. Mumbling something
about there must be a dodgy chip somewhere..
However, hit it and its fine for the rest of the evening.

Brian

I agree, not being electronically minded, I often go for the 'give it a
good hiding' approach

Brian Gaff wrote:
Those sort of faults still occur. A friend of mine bought a new Sony TV,
which will go into menus and change things without any help from a person,
or drain all the colour out of a picture or turn the sound down.
In the end they gave up and gave her a new one. Mumbling something about
there must be a dodgy chip somewhere..
However, hit it and its fine for the rest of the evening.


I had a TV like that.

I eventually resoldered every corroded eyelet in the PCB..and it kept
going for years till; te house got struck by lightning. That really was
the end.

The freelander would occasionally not start till I slammed the rear
passenger offside door hard.

Eventually it totally died, and they towed it away to fit a new fuel pump.



Brian



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To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

On 10/05/2012 15:03, Gary wrote:
When doing Video recorder repairs.

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.

or 'My heads have gone. it has chewed a tape!'
or 'It wont rewind, it must be the heads'.

TV repairs

'The sound has gone off is it the TUBE?'

Customer. ' It can't be anything serious it just happened.'
or Customer 'It can't be anything serious, it been happening for weeks'.



My first 'on desk computer' a MAC SE 4/40
Often they would fail to start up ... call IT, they would come up ..
pick up SE30 and bang it down hard on table .... apparently the HDD
parked heads on power off and the ver used in early Macs would stick.


Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard hard.

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

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On May 11, 7:43*am, Mike Barnes wrote:
Rick Hughes :

Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

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I recovered a box of 5 1/2" floppies the other day from my brother's
clear-out. I'm going to present them to my IT son-in-law to ee if he
knows what they are !

Rob

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



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On 11/05/2012 07:43, Mike Barnes wrote:
Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

We had an Amstrad 1500 PC and were using it to do a craft show. 3 days
before the event the hard disk started failing. Over £200 it cost to
replace all 20 meg of it. ( that was the cost of the disk. no labour
involved)

On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Hard case maybe but floppy on the inside.

Tim

On Thu, 10 May 2012 21:42:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

The freelander would occasionally not start till I slammed the rear
passenger offside door hard.

Ah you should have got a TD5 Disco, they will run with a knackered
fuel pump, just a bit down in performance but will still run.

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Tim wrote:

Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Hard case maybe but floppy on the inside.

Bit like Rodders wearing starched underpants...

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On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:01:19 +0100, Gary wrote:

On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Indeed, I called them 'stiffies'! Even if the actual disk was floppy.

But the 360k ones mentioned above were bendable. The postman once folded
one double to put it through the letterbox.



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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

Nascom CP/M I managed a whole 70k on 5.25 floppies

Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.
You obviously never took one apart.


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To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

On 11/05/2012 13:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole
bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.
You obviously never took one apart.


I said explain. i.e. to the Public.

I had one customer who was indignant that he should not pay for a 3.5mm
free plug. He said it was against the law to charge for it.

Gary :
It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

IIRC it was actually a floppy disk in a hard case.

--
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"Phil L" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff wrote:
Those sort of faults still occur. A friend of mine bought a new Sony
TV, which will go into menus and change things without any help from
a person, or drain all the colour out of a picture or turn the sound
down. In the end they gave up and gave her a new one. Mumbling something
about there must be a dodgy chip somewhere..
However, hit it and its fine for the rest of the evening.

Brian

I agree, not being electronically minded, I often go for the 'give it a
good hiding' approach


Works for women too.....
..
..
..
..
..
If you're brave enough to tackle on e that way when she's within arms reach
indoors ;-0

On Fri, 11 May 2012 16:36:50 +0100, Gary wrote:
It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.
You obviously never took one apart.

I said explain. i.e. to the Public.

If you take it apart, there's a disc inside, which is floppy. The sort of
public who can't understand that are the sort who shouldn't be allowed
out of bed in a morning.

On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:56:00 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

What, no open-reel tape? :-)

"Jules Richardson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:56:00 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

What, no open-reel tape? :-)

They were still using paper tape when I started work,
I actually learnt Fortran using punch cards and mailing them to imperial
college to be run while at primary school.
You could get a "kit" to make a computer, it was transistors arranged in
flip flops, etc. no TTL, etc.

On Sat, 12 May 2012 18:12:28 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

"Jules Richardson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:56:00 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

What, no open-reel tape? :-)

They were still using paper tape when I started work, I actually learnt
Fortran using punch cards and mailing them to imperial college to be run
while at primary school. You could get a "kit" to make a computer, it
was transistors arranged in flip flops, etc. no TTL, etc.

Same here. My first language was Mercury Autocode, punched on cards and
sent to the local college. Then BASIC on an experimental timesharing
system at university, followed by mainframe assembler (Elliott 4130) - on
punched cards. FORTRAN next, and then ALGOL - all within the space of a
year...



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On 12 May 2012 18:03:40 GMT
Bob Eager wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2012 18:12:28 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

"Jules Richardson" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:56:00 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole
bundle of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB
hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

What, no open-reel tape? :-)

They were still using paper tape when I started work, I actually
learnt Fortran using punch cards and mailing them to imperial
college to be run while at primary school. You could get a "kit" to
make a computer, it was transistors arranged in flip flops, etc. no
TTL, etc.

Same here. My first language was Mercury Autocode, punched on cards
and sent to the local college.

Even before learning English? Wow! g
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 00:49:06 +0100, Davey wrote:

On 12 May 2012 18:03:40 GMT
Bob Eager wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2012 18:12:28 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

"Jules Richardson" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:56:00 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick Hughes :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole
bundle of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB
hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

What, no open-reel tape? :-)

They were still using paper tape when I started work, I actually
learnt Fortran using punch cards and mailing them to imperial college
to be run while at primary school. You could get a "kit" to make a
computer, it was transistors arranged in flip flops, etc. no TTL,
etc.

Same here. My first language was Mercury Autocode, punched on cards and
sent to the local college.

Even before learning English? Wow! g

There are some who would insist that is so! .-)

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On 11/05/2012 07:43, Mike Barnes wrote:
Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

I did say works computer ..

For myself I still have my Apple 2e ... never did get to do much with it
.... apple specific 5.25" floppy only.

I had a development board m/c ... bit like a ZX80 but with only an
alphanumeric keypad, then big stuff... a Dragon 32 ...
Followed by BBC compact

I also had an ACT Sirius - with 8" Floppy DD ... before giving up and
buying a 386 PC

On 11/05/2012 11:25, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:01:19 +0100, Gary wrote:

On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Indeed, I called them 'stiffies'! Even if the actual disk was floppy.

But the 360k ones mentioned above were bendable. The postman once folded
one double to put it through the letterbox.



I remember seeing 3.5" optical floppies (callee flopticals) in mid 90's
.... could handle 21MB which was seen as insane at that time.
only ever saw them used with one customer, suppose hey never caught on
.... bit like bubble memory which was seen as the future at the end of
the 70's

On Sun, 13 May 2012 01:43:05 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote:

On 11/05/2012 07:43, Mike Barnes wrote:
Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

I did say works computer ..

For myself I still have my Apple 2e ... never did get to do much with it
... apple specific 5.25" floppy only.

I had a development board m/c ... bit like a ZX80 but with only an
alphanumeric keypad, then big stuff... a Dragon 32 ... Followed by
BBC compact

I also had an ACT Sirius - with 8" Floppy DD ... before giving up and
buying a 386 PC

I nearly bought a Sirius - but I thiught they had 5.25" floppies. Albeit
running at variable speeds to squeeze more data on.



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On 13 May, 08:25, Bob Eager wrote:

I nearly bought a Sirius - but I thiught they had 5.25" floppies. Albeit
running at variable speeds to squeeze more data on.

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Yes, we sold these and that is right - 1.2Mb when the standard at the
time was 360k. They did seem to need higher quality floppies. Came
with CP/M and MS--DOS.

John

On 11/05/2012 11:25, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:01:19 +0100, Gary wrote:

On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Indeed, I called them 'stiffies'! Even if the actual disk was floppy.

But the 360k ones mentioned above were bendable. The postman once folded
one double to put it through the letterbox.

I used to get a few like that through the post... However they usually
worked ok when unfolded!

(the famous (and probably urban legend) case being a package marked
"Floppy discs do not bend", and the postman scribbling "oh yes they do"
on the package and stuffing it in the letterbox!)


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On 11/05/2012 16:36, Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 13:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole
bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.
You obviously never took one apart.


I said explain. i.e. to the Public.

I had one customer who was indignant that he should not pay for a 3.5mm
free plug. He said it was against the law to charge for it.

You remember how a box of ten 3.5" floppies often came in small
individual plastic sleeves in the early days? I recall one enterprising
shop selling these as an optional extra, calling them floppy disk
condoms "to protect against computer viruses" ;-)



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On 11/05/2012 11:41, brass monkey wrote:
"Bob wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

Nascom CP/M I managed a whole 70k on 5.25 floppies

Twas better than 90K on a 8" floppy!


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On 11/05/2012 09:56, Gary wrote:
On 11/05/2012 07:43, Mike Barnes wrote:
Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

We had an Amstrad 1500 PC and were using it to do a craft show. 3 days
before the event the hard disk started failing. Over £200 it cost to
replace all 20 meg of it. ( that was the cost of the disk. no labour
involved)

I remember buying a Seagate 42MB 5.25" half hight drive, plus controller
card etc for use in my Amiga 2000 in about 1989. It was on special
discount at a computer show - only about £450 IIRC. Got replaced a few
years later with a 170MB Conner SCSI, which was about £180 including the
controller!

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On Mon, 14 May 2012 18:55:26 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

On 11/05/2012 11:25, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:01:19 +0100, Gary wrote:

On 11/05/2012 09:56, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard
[disk].
Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...
+1. 2 x 360k floppies...



It was impossible to explain why the 3.5 inch floppy disk was still
called a floppy disk. It was obviously a hard disk.

Indeed, I called them 'stiffies'! Even if the actual disk was floppy.

But the 360k ones mentioned above were bendable. The postman once
folded one double to put it through the letterbox.

I used to get a few like that through the post... However they usually
worked ok when unfolded!

(the famous (and probably urban legend) case being a package marked
"Floppy discs do not bend", and the postman scribbling "oh yes they do"
on the package and stuffing it in the letterbox!)

One of mine (that I'd waited ages for as a one-off from the USA) got
folded. The case was too badly creased to unfold. Cut it apart and put
the actual disk in another case, just to read it.



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On Mon, 14 May 2012 18:59:34 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

On 11/05/2012 11:41, brass monkey wrote:
"Bob wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

Nascom CP/M I managed a whole 70k on 5.25 floppies

Twas better than 90K on a 8" floppy!

The original PC only did 180kB anyway (8 sectors/track, 40 tracks, single
sided). Then the formatting went up to 9 sectors/track (180kB) and then
the double sided ones appeared. That's when I got my first DOS (PCDOS
2.0).



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John Rumm :
(the famous (and probably urban legend) case being a package marked
"Floppy discs do not bend", and the postman scribbling "oh yes they do"
on the package and stuffing it in the letterbox!)

I heard the same UL about photos, long before floppies were invented.

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In message , John
Rumm writes
On 11/05/2012 11:41, brass monkey wrote:
"Bob wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle of
other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

Nascom CP/M I managed a whole 70k on 5.25 floppies

Twas better than 90K on a 8" floppy!


Now they WERE floppy
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hugh

On 14/05/2012 20:02, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2012 18:59:34 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

On 11/05/2012 11:41, brass monkey wrote:
"Bob wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:43:51 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Rick :
Quite amazing to thing we had full OS. MS Office and a whole bundle
of other programs as well as saved files all on a 40 MB hard [disk].

Hard disk? Luxury! WIWAL...

+1. 2 x 360k floppies...

Nascom CP/M I managed a whole 70k on 5.25 floppies

Twas better than 90K on a 8" floppy!

The original PC only did 180kB anyway (8 sectors/track, 40 tracks, single

ITYM 160K

sided). Then the formatting went up to 9 sectors/track (180kB) and then
the double sided ones appeared. That's when I got my first DOS (PCDOS
2.0).

Indeed... then eventually 1.2MB on special HD discs, years after Chuck
Peddle had already got near enough that on 80 track double density discs
using GCR encoding rather than MFM.


--
Cheers,

John.

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