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Which oil fired CH boiler?
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I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. Regards HN |
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H. Neary wrote:
Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. Regards HN |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: H. Neary wrote: Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. Regards HN Thanks for the reply, if you are in a position to have a look at the nameplate, I would like to know the type and who the manufacturer is. I know nothing about oil fired boilers and although the unit is for a house outside The UK, I would prefer to source a unit with a pedigree from a known UK supplier rather than have a local plumber make the decision. Regards HN |
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On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, H. Neary wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: H. Neary wrote: Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. Regards HN Thanks for the reply, if you are in a position to have a look at the nameplate, I would like to know the type and who the manufacturer is. I know nothing about oil fired boilers and although the unit is for a house outside The UK, I would prefer to source a unit with a pedigree from a known UK supplier rather than have a local plumber make the decision. Regards HN Riello burners (as the main component after the boiler castings etc) are considered amongst the best. Jim K |
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H. Neary wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: H. Neary wrote: Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. Regards HN Thanks for the reply, if you are in a position to have a look at the nameplate, I would like to know the type and who the manufacturer is. Rugby half time so it announce itself as a Boulter Camray 5 They don't seem to make the exact model I have any more. I know nothing about oil fired boilers and although the unit is for a house outside The UK, I would prefer to source a unit with a pedigree from a known UK supplier rather than have a local plumber make the decision. Oh. exporting a boiler? well make it a system then. All in one with its own pump. You MAY find that if its on the continent an Italian make will do well, or a German. Both make good boilers. Regards HN |
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Jim K wrote:
On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, H. Neary wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: H. Neary wrote: Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. Regards HN Thanks for the reply, if you are in a position to have a look at the nameplate, I would like to know the type and who the manufacturer is. I know nothing about oil fired boilers and although the unit is for a house outside The UK, I would prefer to source a unit with a pedigree from a known UK supplier rather than have a local plumber make the decision. Regards HN Riello burners (as the main component after the boiler castings etc) are considered amongst the best. Fairly sure that's what a Boulter actually is. I just asked my builders merchant...they did the heat calcs as well more or less. Needed to run it through an external agency..to get past the BCO.. Jim K |
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On 25/02/2012 16:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Jim K wrote: On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, H. Neary wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: H. Neary wrote: Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. Regards HN Thanks for the reply, if you are in a position to have a look at the nameplate, I would like to know the type and who the manufacturer is. I know nothing about oil fired boilers and although the unit is for a house outside The UK, I would prefer to source a unit with a pedigree from a known UK supplier rather than have a local plumber make the decision. Regards HN Riello burners (as the main component after the boiler castings etc) are considered amongst the best. Fairly sure that's what a Boulter actually is. I just asked my builders merchant...they did the heat calcs as well more or less. Needed to run it through an external agency..to get past the BCO.. Jim K My oil boiler is a Boulter Camray 50/70 Wall Hung boiler with a conventional flue. You can't buy them any more because it is not a condensing boiler. It uses a Riello burner. Boulter were taken over by Worcester-Bosch. Oil boilers don't smell unless there is either an oil leak or a flue leak. Grant is another manufacturer that is worth considering. Whilst there are several manufacturers of boilers, there are few manufacturers of the burners. An oil boiler should be serviced every year - assuming an annual consumption of about 3,000 litres. -- Michael Chare |
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On 25/02/2012 15:31, H. Neary wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: H. Neary wrote: Hi I have given up on the back boiler upgrade and am considering oil. Any advice on a boiler would be appreciated. I want to integrate the boiler into an existing solid fuel system [4 rads at around eight kW total] The system is at atmospheric pressure and I want to add a couple of extra rads. I am led to believe the boiler can pong a bit so I was thinking of sticking in the conservatory which is not used much when the weather is cold. It shouldn't pong at all unless you spill fuel. Mine smells of hot bat dung in summer but that is because there is a bat roost immediately above it. Someone installed the oil boiler in the loft! (*not* me) My relatively new boiler does not pong at all inside the house except when it had a fuel leak,. It does pong outside, and the location I used for the flue - just inside a reveal(?) has proved less than ideal - not a few flameouts in strong winds due to turbulence I suppose. Next time I'll use a vertical flue I think. Cant remember what is is, but its a 10KW system boiler, and in ten years its just had a new fuel pump installed.,. Never been serviced otherwise. You should at least change the burner jets from time to time and empty the soot out of the vent baffles. Particularly if you tend to have flameouts. That incidentally does surprise me. I have a balanced flue on my boiler and live in a very windy location but I think it has only locked out once for this during hurricane conditions - storm of 1997. It shouldn't pong much outside either unless you are venting traces of unburnt fuel through incomplete combustion. Thanks for the reply, if you are in a position to have a look at the nameplate, I would like to know the type and who the manufacturer is. I know nothing about oil fired boilers and although the unit is for a house outside The UK, I would prefer to source a unit with a pedigree from a known UK supplier rather than have a local plumber make the decision. Make sure you choose something recognisable in the country where you intend to install it or you could have an interesting time finding someone to service it and getting spare parts when it goes wrong. My oil boiler has a Danish oil lifter of antediluvian origins that has proved highly entertaining to get serviced at times. Basically most UK oil boiler and heating engineers take one look at it and run away. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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