Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing? Less
than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to pass
onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get over
55GW today.

If I believed in God, I would take the fact that since wind farms have
become commonplace, the UK has tended to get hit by very still, cold
winters, as proof that He has a sense of humour, at least.

Oh, and those still hot days, when everybody wants to run their aircon
too ....

In article o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

odd. gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero. IE 8.0 on the same
virtual machine works.

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(")_(")

Mike Tomlinson wrote:

gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero.

With FF10 on a physical Win7 machine here, it's fine.

In article , Andy
Burns writes

With FF10 on a physical Win7 machine here, it's fine.

Started working shortly after I posted... doh! I'd just installed FF10
and wondered if it was that.

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Started working shortly after I posted... doh! I'd just installed FF10
and wondered if it was that.

Yeah, plusnet's traffic shaping went squiffy for an hour or so this
morning, until they admitted it I also wondered if it was FF10 mis-behaving

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

odd. gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero. IE 8.0 on the same
virtual machine works.

All meters at zero is because you were the person that happened to time
out the cache, and go live to bmpreports..and they failed to respond.

Just reload.

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice writes

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

odd. gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero. IE 8.0 on the
same virtual machine works.

All meters at zero is because you were the person that happened to time
out the cache, and go live to bmpreports..and they failed to respond.

Just reload.

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

It seems to be 'out there'; I just installed slackware on a machine this
morning - which came with FF 8.x bundled - and the first time I ran it,
it said that 10.x was the latest version and offered to download it for
me.

(comments on whether it's worth having vs. 8.x are welcome; I like
sercurity fixes, of course, but some FF releases just seem to add bloat
and gimmicky features without really doing anything useful)

cheers

Jules

Jules Richardson wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice writes

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.
odd. gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero. IE 8.0 on the
same virtual machine works.

All meters at zero is because you were the person that happened to time
out the cache, and go live to bmpreports..and they failed to respond.

Just reload.

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

It seems to be 'out there'; I just installed slackware on a machine this
morning - which came with FF 8.x bundled - and the first time I ran it,
it said that 10.x was the latest version and offered to download it for
me.

Oh.. that's odd .. mine says 'up to date' and yet the mozilla site says
10.0 is the latest and greatest - I am on 9.1


I'll try and find the source release.. Debian is still on version
3.something last time I looked.



(comments on whether it's worth having vs. 8.x are welcome; I like
sercurity fixes, of course, but some FF releases just seem to add bloat
and gimmicky features without really doing anything useful)


Its got a bit better on memory management the last couple of releases
but there are sill memory leaks I think. I have to occasionally shut
down to clear the swap space out..

Or that might be virtual box. Hard to tell.

cheers

Jules

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Jules Richardson wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice writes

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.
odd. gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero. IE 8.0 on the
same virtual machine works.

All meters at zero is because you were the person that happened to time
out the cache, and go live to bmpreports..and they failed to respond.

Just reload.

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

It seems to be 'out there'; I just installed slackware on a machine this
morning - which came with FF 8.x bundled - and the first time I ran it,
it said that 10.x was the latest version and offered to download it for
me.

Oh.. that's odd .. mine says 'up to date' and yet the mozilla site says
10.0 is the latest and greatest - I am on 9.1

I think they stagger the update notifications from the browsers. Give it a day and it might auto-update. Mine did first thing this morning.

I'll try and find the source release.. Debian is still on version
3.something last time I looked.

I installed firefox on Debian 6, manually back at version 4 (not from
source, but from their supplied binary) and it's auto-updated sine then.

(comments on whether it's worth having vs. 8.x are welcome; I like
sercurity fixes, of course, but some FF releases just seem to add bloat
and gimmicky features without really doing anything useful)

Its got a bit better on memory management the last couple of releases
but there are sill memory leaks I think. I have to occasionally shut
down to clear the swap space out..

Or that might be virtual box. Hard to tell.

Probably the plugins more than anything else. I run very "plugin-lite"
and while it grows over time, it seems to stabilise at about 1GB after
a few weeks - but then it starts to get slow - I think there is some
internal innefficiencies in the memory allocator/garbage routines...

Currently very low, relatively speaking:

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
11969 gordon 20 0 667m 303m 30m S 14 15.2 125:02.52 firefox

thats with 3 windows, a few dozen tabs and only adblock+, flashblocker
and ghostery enabled. Not done too much browsing today.

Gordon

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:46:09 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Oh.. that's odd .. mine says 'up to date' and yet the mozilla site says
10.0 is the latest and greatest - I am on 9.1

(comments on whether it's worth having vs. 8.x are welcome; I like
sercurity fixes, of course, but some FF releases just seem to add bloat
and gimmicky features without really doing anything useful)

Its got a bit better on memory management the last couple of releases
but there are sill memory leaks I think. I have to occasionally shut
down to clear the swap space out..

Well, just installed on the lappy... one minor 'gotcha' I found is that
there's no global plugins directory by default (was there in 9.x?) as
there was with 8.x and previous. Creating one & copying plugins used with
previous release seems to work just fine - but it has me wondering if
things haven't changed and there's not some more 'official' place to put
global plugins in v10.

Other than that it seems to work well, but I've not really tried to
seriously stress it yet. Installation painless, just the usual tar
extraction, moving and creating a link.

cheers

Jules

On 02/02/2012 15:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

(comments on whether it's worth having vs. 8.x are welcome; I like
sercurity fixes, of course, but some FF releases just seem to add
bloat and gimmicky features without really doing anything useful)


Its got a bit better on memory management the last couple of releases
but there are sill memory leaks I think. I have to occasionally shut
down to clear the swap space out..


FF 11.0a2 (Aurora) seems even better, (only tried it on W7 though)
whether it stays like that of course...

Lee

On 02/02/2012 14:15 The Natural Philosopher wrote:

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

Came up on my computer as an offering from the regular automatic check.
Failing that, Firefox Help About Firefox.

There's a Thunderbird v10 available too.

--
F

F wrote:
On 02/02/2012 14:15 The Natural Philosopher wrote:

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

Came up on my computer as an offering from the regular automatic check.
Failing that, Firefox Help About Firefox.

There's a Thunderbird v10 available too.

still on iceweasel v2.summat. It works...

I only upgrade when I have to except firefox - I need to keep up in case
my websites break on it.

In article , The Natural Philosopher
writes

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

Nah, Firefox 9.0.1 stamped its foot and demanded that I upgrade.

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(='.'=)
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:15:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

odd. gridwatch shows OK on Firefox 8.0 on Linux, but Firefox 10 in a
virtual machine running XP shows all meters at zero. IE 8.0 on the same
virtual machine works.

All meters at zero is because you were the person that happened to time
out the cache, and go live to bmpreports..and they failed to respond.

Just reload.

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

It's on Softpedia. I'm on PaleMoon 9.something and will wait for the update
- PaleMoon very rarely goes with the first version, but waits for a.x that
irons out the silly bugs.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

Released on 31st Jan

http://www.mozilla.org/products/download.html?product=firefox-10.0&os=win&lang=en-GB

Similarly TB10, but since you're still on TB2 I assume you dislike the
newer releases?

Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

OT: where did you get FF10? did you compile the beta

Released on 31st Jan

http://www.mozilla.org/products/download.html?product=firefox-10.0&os=win&lang=en-GB

Sorry, missed the 'X11' in your headers, depends if you like installing
from tar files, or waiting for your distro (or a 3rd party repo) to
catch up ...

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....ux-i686/en-GB/

Dave Liquorice wrote:
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

the odd thing yesterday was that we were importing as much from Holland
as we were exporting to France..don't they have an extension cable
somewhere they can plug in?


Nice to see the nukes running just about flat out - looks like all the
maintenance and refuelling is done and the colder seas are scraping a
few hundred MW more out of the condensors.

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:13:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Dave Liquorice wrote:
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

the odd thing yesterday was that we were importing as much from Holland
as we were exporting to France..don't they have an extension cable
somewhere they can plug in?


Nice to see the nukes running just about flat out - looks like all the
maintenance and refuelling is done and the colder seas are scraping a
few hundred MW more out of the condensors.


EDF have switched one off at Hinkley
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8D117520120201

"We took the decision to take unit 7 at Hinkley Point B power station
offline today (Wednesday, 1 February) at 0230hrs for planned
maintenance," a spokeswoman said, declining to give a restart date.
--
http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

On Feb 2, 3:12*pm, mogga wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:13:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher









wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? *B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

the odd thing yesterday was that we were importing as much from Holland
as we were exporting to France..don't they have an extension cable
somewhere they can plug in?

Nice to see the nukes running just about flat out - looks like all the
maintenance and refuelling is done and the colder seas are scraping a
few hundred MW more out of the condensors.

EDF have switched one off at Hinkleyhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/01/edf-nuclear-hinkley-point-b...

"We took the decision to take unit 7 at Hinkley Point B power station
offline today (Wednesday, 1 February) at 0230hrs for planned
maintenance," a spokeswoman said, declining to give a restart date.
--http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

One reactor at Hinkley Point B and both at Dungeness B.

http://www.edfenergy.com/about-us/en...ant-status.pdf

From the looks of it Hinkley Point B will be back on soon.

Dungeness B seems to be more out of service than on.

Can't find a similar status page for the couple of Magnox stations
that are still in service.

Philip

In article , mogga
writes

"We took the decision to take unit 7 at Hinkley Point B power station
offline today (Wednesday, 1 February) at 0230hrs for planned
maintenance," a spokeswoman said, declining to give a restart date.

Nice timing on a frigging cold day with peak demand...

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mogga wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:13:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Dave Liquorice wrote:
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

the odd thing yesterday was that we were importing as much from Holland
as we were exporting to France..don't they have an extension cable
somewhere they can plug in?


Nice to see the nukes running just about flat out - looks like all the
maintenance and refuelling is done and the colder seas are scraping a
few hundred MW more out of the condensors.


EDF have switched one off at Hinkley
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8D117520120201

"We took the decision to take unit 7 at Hinkley Point B power station
offline today (Wednesday, 1 February) at 0230hrs for planned
maintenance," a spokeswoman said, declining to give a restart date.

Thanks for that.

I must say I didn't know Hinckley was still going..

I think you can just about see the dip it represents..

On 02/02/2012 14:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.
Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

the odd thing yesterday was that we were importing as much from Holland
as we were exporting to France..don't they have an extension cable
somewhere they can plug in?...

Perhaps the Belgians charge more for transmitting it than we do.

Colin Bignell

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

17:05

56264MW

633MW from Wind


--

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

17:05

56264MW

633MW from Wind


and its gonna snow says SWMBO..

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:18:56 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

17:05

56264MW

633MW from Wind


and its gonna snow says SWMBO..

17:20

57287 MW

658MW from wind

Easily biggest demand of the winter, prediction was for 57087 MW at
18:00


--

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:18:56 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.
17:05

56264MW

633MW from Wind


and its gonna snow says SWMBO..

17:20

57287 MW


57.45GW...



658MW from wind

645MW...


Easily biggest demand of the winter, prediction was for 57087 MW at
18:00


and still rising..

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:18:56 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.
17:05

56264MW

633MW from Wind


and its gonna snow says SWMBO..

17:20

57287 MW

658MW from wind

Easily biggest demand of the winter, prediction was for 57087 MW at
18:00


...and an OCGT just came online..

Ouch!

and we are STILL feeding a gig and a half to France, presumably to keep
Germany from blacking out..

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:18:56 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.
Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.
17:05
56264MW

633MW from Wind


and its gonna snow says SWMBO..

17:20

57287 MW

658MW from wind

Easily biggest demand of the winter, prediction was for 57087 MW at
18:00


..and an OCGT just came online..

Ouch!

and we are STILL feeding a gig and a half to France, presumably to keep
Germany from blacking out..


And for the first time EVER 'OTHER' is pushing out 600MW plus..that's
really..unusual..emergency stuff. Diesels and the like

I reckon they misread the demand peak by almost a Gigawatt and the big
oil burners couldn't be brought on in time.

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:44:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:18:56 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:14:55 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.
17:05

56264MW

633MW from Wind


and its gonna snow says SWMBO..

17:20

57287 MW

658MW from wind

Easily biggest demand of the winter, prediction was for 57087 MW at
18:00


..and an OCGT just came online..

Ouch!

and we are STILL feeding a gig and a half to France, presumably to keep
Germany from blacking out..


Highest I can see was 57513 MW at 17:30

631 MW from wind

235 MW OCGT

Bugger all on the French interconnector now, and 218MW from NL


--

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

and we are STILL feeding a gig and a half to France, presumably to keep
Germany from blacking out..


A lot of French people rely on electric heating in cold weather. At this
time of year France IMPORTS electricity, sometimes up to 5GW.

Another Dave

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.


Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Peter Crosland

Peter Crosland wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.


Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Peter Crosland


More or less peter..up to ten minutes delayed

In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus
Peter Crosland wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.


Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Peter Crosland


More or less peter..up to ten minutes delayed

JOOI was the Coal and CCGT dials set at 25 so as to be the top
indication of what these sources could provide as such?.

Or is there greater capacity than what they indicate?...
--
Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus
Peter Crosland wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Peter Crosland


More or less peter..up to ten minutes delayed

JOOI was the Coal and CCGT dials set at 25 so as to be the top
indication of what these sources could provide as such?.

Or is there greater capacity than what they indicate?...

I think that we have a shade over 25GW of coal and about 22GW of gas but
its all a bit vague really - lots of plant is semi mothballed.

In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus
Peter Crosland wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
Current electricity demand 52GW+, up 2GW on yesterday.

Lovely still bright crisp winters day, how much is wind providing?
Less than 0.6GW... And I see we are exporting power to the French to
pass onto the Germans? B-)

Wouldn't be surprised to see the late afternoon spike in demand get
over 55GW today.

Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Peter Crosland


More or less peter..up to ten minutes delayed

JOOI was the Coal and CCGT dials set at 25 so as to be the top
indication of what these sources could provide as such?.

Or is there greater capacity than what they indicate?...

I think that we have a shade over 25GW of coal and about 22GW of gas but
its all a bit vague really - lots of plant is semi mothballed.


And where would that be?, at existing power stations?.

Or at mothballed ones where surely it takes quite some time to bring
them online?..

--
Tony Sayer

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

More or less peter..up to ten minutes delayed

Summat up with the days attribution ATM. Maybe beacuse it's just gone
midnight. But the profiles of the plots labled "Sat" are definately
those for Friday and similar slip for other days, "Sun" is Saturdays
data etc.

It's just auto updated itself (00:20) and a forced refresh doesn't
alter this error. I have a screen grab if required.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Is this realtime? It shows more than 56GW.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
More or less peter..up to ten minutes delayed

Summat up with the days attribution ATM. Maybe beacuse it's just gone
midnight. But the profiles of the plots labled "Sat" are definately
those for Friday and similar slip for other days, "Sun" is Saturdays
data etc.

It's just auto updated itself (00:20) and a forced refresh doesn't
alter this error. I have a screen grab if required.

you get the prize for the first person to notice that the chart labels
occasionally go awry.

Probably spent more time on that algo. than on the rest of the code to
make the charts..its still broken.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:12:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

you get the prize for the first person to notice that the chart labels
occasionally go awry.

I probably wouldn't have noticed without having paid so much
attention to the profiles for Thursday and Friday

Probably spent more time on that algo. than on the rest of the code to
make the charts..its still broken.

Often the way, error checking and handling normally takes up far more
code and time than the real work a program is doing. It's OK now at
08:10. As it was just after midnight I suspect something getting 0
when it is expecting a 1 or vice versa.

50GW already, 0.069GW from wind but 0.462GW from the mysterious
"Other". Both French and Dutch interconnects in fairly high (Dutch
flat out) export mode.

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Cheers
Dave.