Having decided that the Redring/Corvette device isn't what we want
(thanks for all the feedback on that), how about the Insinkerator hot
tap?

http://www.taps4less.com/PP/ISE-GN1100C.html

Does anyone have one of these?

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Chris Green

wrote in message ...
Having decided that the Redring/Corvette device isn't what we want
(thanks for all the feedback on that), how about the Insinkerator hot
tap?

http://www.taps4less.com/PP/ISE-GN1100C.html

Does anyone have one of these?

£355 for a tap? I'll bet they sell hundreds.

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:58:39 -0000, brass monkey wrote:

http://www.taps4less.com/PP/ISE-GN1100C.html

Does anyone have one of these?

£355 for a tap? I'll bet they sell hundreds.

And under counter electric boiler. I wonder how much energy it uses
per day keeping 2.5l of water at near boiling point? I guess it
doesn't have to do that though it could have a 3kW element on the
output to boost the stored temp on delivery but it would still need
to keep the store hot at roughly 80C to have a sensible flow rate of
2l/min.

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Dave.

brass monkey wrote:

wrote in message ...
Having decided that the Redring/Corvette device isn't what we want
(thanks for all the feedback on that), how about the Insinkerator hot
tap?

http://www.taps4less.com/PP/ISE-GN1100C.html

Does anyone have one of these?

£355 for a tap? I'll bet they sell hundreds.

That's £355 for the whole thing, water heater, filter, etc.

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Chris Green

On 04/01/2012 13:28, wrote:
Having decided that the Redring/Corvette device isn't what we want
(thanks for all the feedback on that), how about the Insinkerator hot
tap?

http://www.taps4less.com/PP/ISE-GN1100C.html

Rather worried by the claim: "Can be used for cooking, hot drinks, baby
care and cleaning."

Not sure Dr Spock ever recommended a quick scrub with near boiling
water, as being an idea baby care and cleaning technique!



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John.

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On 4 Jan 2012 15:04:28 GMT, Huge wrote:

And under counter electric boiler. I wonder how much energy it
uses
per day keeping 2.5l of water at near boiling point?

Some of them have a Thermos (Dewar) container.

That would be better than simple insulation but the page doesn't
mention that just "2.5 Litre stainless steel tank" and "high
effciency insulation". Steel vacuum flasks are no where near as good
as glass ones at keeping the heat in/out.

I see from the 2 page(!) "Installation instructions" that it's rated
at 1300W and 100 cups/hour at 98C. A Canadian cup is 227ml (metric
cup is 250ml, US 236ml) so thats a minimum of 22.7l/hour or
0.378l/min. 1300W can only provide a 50C (ish) temperature rise at
that flow rate so something doesn't add up in the spec...

With the store full and at 98C I can see it managing the first hours
100 cups OK but how about the second or third hours? It simply has
not got the power to heat cold incoming water at say 15C to 98C on
the fly at the quoted flow rate.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 1/4/2012 4:09 PM, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 4 Jan 2012 15:04:28 GMT, Huge wrote:

And under counter electric boiler. I wonder how much energy it
uses
per day keeping 2.5l of water at near boiling point?

Some of them have a Thermos (Dewar) container.

That would be better than simple insulation but the page doesn't
mention that just "2.5 Litre stainless steel tank" and "high
effciency insulation". Steel vacuum flasks are no where near as good
as glass ones at keeping the heat in/out.

I see from the 2 page(!) "Installation instructions" that it's rated
at 1300W and 100 cups/hour at 98C. A Canadian cup is 227ml (metric
cup is 250ml, US 236ml) so thats a minimum of 22.7l/hour or
0.378l/min. 1300W can only provide a 50C (ish) temperature rise at
that flow rate so something doesn't add up in the spec...

With the store full and at 98C I can see it managing the first hours
100 cups OK but how about the second or third hours? It simply has
not got the power to heat cold incoming water at say 15C to 98C on
the fly at the quoted flow rate.

I've noticed that some coffee machines refer to 'cups', but their 'cups'
are only 5 or six ounces each.

On 04/01/2012 21:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Steel vacuum flasks are no where near as good
as glass ones at keeping the heat in/out.


I always thought that until I actually bought a stainless steel one -
and it is brilliant!
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wrote in message ...
Having decided that the Redring/Corvette device isn't what we want
(thanks for all the feedback on that), how about the Insinkerator hot
tap?

http://www.taps4less.com/PP/ISE-GN1100C.html

Does anyone have one of these?

£355 for a tap? I'll bet they sell hundreds.



keeping water at 98 C all the times seems plain nuts to me .... there are
fast boiler kettles, get one of them .... if you can't wait that long for a
cuppa ... book yourself in for some therapy.

On 4 Jan,
Roger Mills wrote:

On 04/01/2012 21:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Steel vacuum flasks are no where near as good
as glass ones at keeping the heat in/out.


I always thought that until I actually bought a stainless steel one -
and it is brilliant!

Definitely. They don't break when you drop them either.

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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 22:44:07 -0000, "Rick Hughes"
wrote:

keeping water at 98 C all the times seems plain nuts to me

One of these taps, advertised recently in a UK tabloid quotes
something like "running costs for electricity of about 10 pence per
annum"

If anyone can find it then it might be worth filing an ASA complaint


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On 05/01/2012 00:44, wrote:
On 4 Jan,
Roger wrote:

On 04/01/2012 21:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Steel vacuum flasks are no where near as good
as glass ones at keeping the heat in/out.

I always thought that until I actually bought a stainless steel one -
and it is brilliant!
Definitely. They don't break when you drop them either.

I concur, I take one to college as I refuse to pay for coffee all the
time, although I have been having a bit of an issue with a weird taste
which makes the coffee almost undrinkable...

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David

On 05/01/2012 15:59, Owain wrote:
On Jan 5, 12:15 pm, gremlin_95 wrote:
I concur, I take one to college as I refuse to pay for coffee all the
time, although I have been having a bit of an issue with a weird taste
which makes the coffee almost undrinkable...
They do need cleaning out occasionally, including any pouring
mechanism in the stopper.

Denture cleaning tablets are okay.

Do not use super citrusol. Don't ask me how I know this.

Owain

The sheet that came with it actually mentions soaking it bicarbonate of
soda solution which I have been doing, I've yet to try it again though.

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David

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:50:23 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

I see from the 2 page(!) "Installation instructions" that it's
rated
at 1300W and 100 cups/hour at 98C. A Canadian cup is 227ml (metric
cup is 250ml, US 236ml) so thats a minimum of 22.7l/hour or
0.378l/min. 1300W can only provide a 50C (ish) temperature rise at
that flow rate so something doesn't add up in the spec...

I've noticed that some coffee machines refer to 'cups', but their 'cups'
are only 5 or six ounces each.

5 UK ounce "cup" is 142ml, so 100 cups/hour is 0.236l/min 1.3kW can
heat that flow from 19C to 98C. But UK water supply is nearer 10C
most of the year a bit more realistic but a minute to fill a mug?

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Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:30:21 +0000, Roger Mills wrote:

Steel vacuum flasks are no where near as good as glass ones at
keeping
the heat in/out.

I always thought that until I actually bought a stainless steel one -
and it is brilliant!

Meh, the one we have is hopeless.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 05/01/2012 17:02, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:50:23 -0500, S Viemeister wrote:

I see from the 2 page(!) "Installation instructions" that it's
rated
at 1300W and 100 cups/hour at 98C. A Canadian cup is 227ml (metric
cup is 250ml, US 236ml) so thats a minimum of 22.7l/hour or
0.378l/min. 1300W can only provide a 50C (ish) temperature rise at
that flow rate so something doesn't add up in the spec...

I've noticed that some coffee machines refer to 'cups', but their 'cups'
are only 5 or six ounces each.

5 UK ounce "cup" is 142ml, so 100 cups/hour is 0.236l/min 1.3kW can
heat that flow from 19C to 98C. But UK water supply is nearer 10C
most of the year a bit more realistic but a minute to fill a mug?

Hence why it has a 2.5L store of pre-heated water to meet the immediate
demand from.


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John.

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:30:21 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

5 UK ounce "cup" is 142ml, so 100 cups/hour is 0.236l/min 1.3kW
can
heat that flow from 19C to 98C. But UK water supply is nearer 10C
most of the year a bit more realistic but a minute to fill a mug?

Hence why it has a 2.5L store of pre-heated water to meet the immediate
demand from.

True but the spec says 100 cups per hour at 98C. As I said before
it'll do the first hour OK but will start to struggle in the second
and subsequent hours. The spec doesn't say that there is any limit on
drawing cups from it.

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Dave.

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:02:29 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

Rather worried by the claim: "Can be used for cooking, hot drinks, baby
care and cleaning."

Not sure Dr Spock ever recommended a quick scrub with near boiling
water, as being an idea baby care and cleaning technique!

Obviously a typo - they meant "baby cooking".