I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and as he is
in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it.
He has found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for a 3
week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it appeared to
hold its charge better then.
I remember my brother having the same problem with a laptop and wonder if
this is a common problem, does anyone know?
And if so is there anything that can be done.
Thank you

Stewart wrote:

I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and
as he is in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it. He has
found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for
a 3 week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it
appeared to hold its charge better then. I remember my brother
having the same problem with a laptop and wonder if this is a common
problem, does anyone know? And if so is there anything that can be
done. Thank you

Check that when he turns the laptop off it actually is turning off and
not just hibernating, especially if he uses the power button to turn on
and off!

Sons laptop (Dell) had a similar issue, power button set to hibernate,
lid closed set to sleep mode .. he used the power button thinking it
was turning off when it was only hibernating .. battery fubar'd quickly.



--
Paul - xxx
"You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win"
Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.

Paul - xxx wrote:
Stewart wrote:

I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and
as he is in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it. He has
found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for
a 3 week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it
appeared to hold its charge better then. I remember my brother
having the same problem with a laptop and wonder if this is a common
problem, does anyone know? And if so is there anything that can be
done. Thank you

Check that when he turns the laptop off it actually is turning off and
not just hibernating, especially if he uses the power button to turn on
and off!

Sons laptop (Dell) had a similar issue, power button set to hibernate,
lid closed set to sleep mode .. he used the power button thinking it
was turning off when it was only hibernating .. battery fubar'd quickly.



+1 its probably not as 'off' as he thinks it is.

even so, charge retention on LIPOS whilst good, is not perfect. 6-9
months and all the 'fuel' is generally 'evaporated'

On 30/11/2011 14:35, Paul - xxx wrote:
Stewart wrote:

I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and
as he is in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it. He has
found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for
a 3 week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it
appeared to hold its charge better then. I remember my brother
having the same problem with a laptop and wonder if this is a common
problem, does anyone know? And if so is there anything that can be
done. Thank you

Check that when he turns the laptop off it actually is turning off and
not just hibernating, especially if he uses the power button to turn on
and off!

Sons laptop (Dell) had a similar issue, power button set to hibernate,
lid closed set to sleep mode .. he used the power button thinking it
was turning off when it was only hibernating .. battery fubar'd quickly.

Hibernate = fully off, just state saved to disk. You can remove the
battery and power when it's hibernated without a problem.

Do you mean sleep?

Clive George wrote:

On 30/11/2011 14:35, Paul - xxx wrote:
Stewart wrote:

I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit
and as he is in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it. He
has found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold
their charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me
at home for a 3 week period). Once he left the computer with
battery out and it appeared to hold its charge better then. I
remember my brother having the same problem with a laptop and
wonder if this is a common problem, does anyone know? And if so
is there anything that can be done. Thank you

Check that when he turns the laptop off it actually is turning off
and not just hibernating, especially if he uses the power button to
turn on and off!

Sons laptop (Dell) had a similar issue, power button set to
hibernate, lid closed set to sleep mode .. he used the power button
thinking it was turning off when it was only hibernating .. battery
fubar'd quickly.

Hibernate = fully off, just state saved to disk. You can remove the
battery and power when it's hibernated without a problem.

Do you mean sleep?

Possibly ..



--
Paul - xxx
"You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win"
Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.

On Nov 30, 1:31*pm, "Stewart" wrote:
I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and as he is
in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it.
He has found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for a 3
week period). *Once he left the computer with battery out and it appeared to
hold its charge better then.
I remember my brother having the same problem with a laptop and wonder if
this is a common problem, does anyone know?
And if so is there anything that can be done.
Thank you

My Sony Viao VGN-FW21L is 3 years old and the battery still lasts
about 3 days in sleep mode, and a few weeks when turned fully off.
Never used hibernate mode much as it takes ages to boot up again.

rusty

Thanks all, my son never uses hibernate or sleep; he knows how to fully
switch off etc and is careful to do so. I think what annoys him most is
that I have a much cheaper Acer laptop and the battery there works
perfectly.
My brother's problem I think was because he never used the battery but
always "on mains power".
Is LIPOS the type of cell used in these batteries?
Thanks again.


"therustyone" wrote in message
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On Nov 30, 1:31 pm, "Stewart" wrote:
I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and as he
is
in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it.
He has found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for a 3
week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it appeared
to
hold its charge better then.
I remember my brother having the same problem with a laptop and wonder if
this is a common problem, does anyone know?
And if so is there anything that can be done.
Thank you

My Sony Viao VGN-FW21L is 3 years old and the battery still lasts
about 3 days in sleep mode, and a few weeks when turned fully off.
Never used hibernate mode much as it takes ages to boot up again.

rusty

On 30/11/2011 17:47, Stewart wrote:
Thanks all, my son never uses hibernate or sleep; he knows how to fully
switch off etc and is careful to do so. I think what annoys him most is
that I have a much cheaper Acer laptop and the battery there works
perfectly.
My brother's problem I think was because he never used the battery but
always "on mains power".

That is a great way to kill laptop batteries. I have done it to a
Toshiba once when it was used continuously on mains for a while.

It is a good idea to cycle them to a decent level of discharge once
every couple of months. Otherwise if kept continually at full charge for
long periods of time they eventually protest by losing capacity. The
replacement batteries tend to be annoyingly expensive too

Regards,
Martin Brown


"therustyone" wrote in message
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On Nov 30, 1:31 pm, "Stewart" wrote:
I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and
as he is
in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it.
He has found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for
a 3
week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it
appeared to
hold its charge better then.
I remember my brother having the same problem with a laptop and
wonder if
this is a common problem, does anyone know?
And if so is there anything that can be done.
Thank you

My Sony Viao VGN-FW21L is 3 years old and the battery still lasts
about 3 days in sleep mode, and a few weeks when turned fully off.
Never used hibernate mode much as it takes ages to boot up again.

rusty

In article ,
Stewart wrote:
Thanks all, my son never uses hibernate or sleep; he knows how to fully
switch off etc and is careful to do so. I think what annoys him most is
that I have a much cheaper Acer laptop and the battery there works
perfectly.
My brother's problem I think was because he never used the battery but
always "on mains power".
Is LIPOS the type of cell used in these batteries?
Thanks again.

I also use my Acer mainly on mains - and leave it plugged in and powered
at the socket, but switched off at the laptop. After a couple of years the
battery was knackered - despite hardly having been used in anger. I now
remove the new one when not in use.

--
*Is there another word for synonym?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 30/11/2011 17:47, Stewart wrote:
Thanks all, my son never uses hibernate or sleep; he knows how to fully
switch off etc and is careful to do so. I think what annoys him most is
that I have a much cheaper Acer laptop and the battery there works
perfectly.
My brother's problem I think was because he never used the battery but
always "on mains power".
Is LIPOS the type of cell used in these batteries?
Thanks again.


"therustyone" wrote in message
...
On Nov 30, 1:31 pm, "Stewart" wrote:
I cannot find where to pose this question so am trying here first.
My son has a Sony laptop, one year old running windows 7 64 bit and
as he is
in the merchant navy he has 2 batteries for it.
He has found that no matter which battery is in they will not hold their
charge even when the computer is not in use (left with me at home for
a 3
week period). Once he left the computer with battery out and it
appeared to
hold its charge better then.
I remember my brother having the same problem with a laptop and
wonder if
this is a common problem, does anyone know?
And if so is there anything that can be done.
Thank you

My Sony Viao VGN-FW21L is 3 years old and the battery still lasts
about 3 days in sleep mode, and a few weeks when turned fully off.
Never used hibernate mode much as it takes ages to boot up again.

rusty


I think some machines cope better with "continuous mains" than others.
Three years without any sign of trouble on a heavily used "work" Dell
Latitude, for example (better than either our Acer or Azus netbooks,
which have both needed new batteries).

On 30/11/2011 19:36, Newshound wrote:

I think some machines cope better with "continuous mains" than others.
Three years without any sign of trouble on a heavily used "work" Dell
Latitude, for example (better than either our Acer or Azus netbooks,
which have both needed new batteries).

I think the "work" bit might be part of it - my work HP one isn't doing
too badly either at 4.5 years old, but it's a much better built machine
than the domestic stuff.

On 30/11/2011 19:41, Clive George wrote:
I think the "work" bit might be part of it - my work HP one isn't doing
too badly either at 4.5 years old, but it's a much better built machine
than the domestic stuff.

My work HP one has had a replacement battery after a couple of years.
(definitely under 3)

It spends all day on the mains, but is usually unplugged when out of the
office. It gets run flat occasionally.

Andy