I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down( including
posts). I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy etc) .
The wall is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high ( approx)
The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to 10 ft and neither
I nor neighbour could see each other. I didn't put the fence up ( nor the
wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted to be "my" boundary .
It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a small holder with a dog,
three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about 10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees take
over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running it
seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms but he
has pushed ( it must have been pushed as the winds were sou' westers and
wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it the way its fallen)
onto my garden/ path there. Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is the
boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door with no
privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out unless they
invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I guess shoving the
fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) Couldn't do much
yesterday as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

I don't want to row the neighbour and I don't want trouble and OH is just
plain up for any argument right now. I cant get anyone in to do it, he
wont let me.

What would you do?

Thanks.

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...
I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down( including
posts). I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy etc)
. The wall is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high (
approx) The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to 10 ft
and neither I nor neighbour could see each other. I didn't put the fence
up ( nor the wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted to be
"my" boundary . It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a small
holder with a dog, three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about 10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees
take over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running it
seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms but
he has pushed ( it must have been pushed as the winds were sou' westers
and wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it the way its
fallen) onto my garden/ path there. Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is
the boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door with
no privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out unless
they invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I guess
shoving the fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) Couldn't do much
yesterday as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?
No.
You don't evenhave to HAVE any fence or boundary marker. But you may choose
to do so.

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

Get a Fence Man in to do it. Easy. Simple. Whilst OH is out.

I don't want to row the neighbour and I don't want trouble and OH is just
plain up for any argument right now. I cant get anyone in to do it, he
wont let me.

What would you do?

OH and I just built a complete fence.
Some (most) is on our side of the boundary.. bits of it well so. (to miss
trees, etc)
Some is well on neighbours side of boundary. (to miss trees, etc)

Boundary is still where it was before. No hassle.

Thanks.
My pleasure.

Just discuss with neighbour what you want to do. You MIGHT need access from
his side as well!

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message ...
I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down( including
posts). I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy etc) .
The wall is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high ( approx)
The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to 10 ft and neither
I nor neighbour could see each other. I didn't put the fence up ( nor the
wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted to be "my" boundary .
It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a small holder with a dog,
three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about 10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees take
over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running it
seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms but he
has pushed ( it must have been pushed as the winds were sou' westers and
wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it the way its fallen)
onto my garden/ path there. Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is the
boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door with no
privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out unless they
invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I guess shoving the
fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) Couldn't do much
yesterday as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

I don't want to row the neighbour and I don't want trouble and OH is just
plain up for any argument right now. I cant get anyone in to do it, he
wont let me.

What would you do?

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens in it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

Consider trading OH in for a new more user friendly model.

Tim

"Ian" wrote in message
om...

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...
I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down(
including posts). I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy
etc) . The wall is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high
( approx) The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to 10 ft
and neither I nor neighbour could see each other. I didn't put the
fence up ( nor the wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted
to be "my" boundary . It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a
small holder with a dog, three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about 10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees
take over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running it
seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms but
he has pushed ( it must have been pushed as the winds were sou' westers
and wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it the way its
fallen) onto my garden/ path there. Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is
the boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door with
no privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out unless
they invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I guess
shoving the fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) Couldn't do much
yesterday as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?
No.
You don't evenhave to HAVE any fence or boundary marker. But you may
choose to do so.

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

Get a Fence Man in to do it. Easy. Simple. Whilst OH is out.

OH never goes out ( he barely gets out of bed except to send callers away -
so a no go. Whatever I do I have to be able to do it myself and alone. No
help - he wont let anyone in. OK I know that sounds strange OH is getting
very strange. I have to love with it.
Thanks.

It may well have to be that I leave it down and hope next door doesn't
complain,

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...
I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down( including
posts). I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy etc)
.
The wall is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high (
approx)
The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to 10 ft and
neither
I nor neighbour could see each other. I didn't put the fence up ( nor
the
wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted to be "my" boundary .
It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a small holder with a dog,
three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about 10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees
take
over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running it
seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms but
he
has pushed ( it must have been pushed as the winds were sou' westers and
wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it the way its fallen)
onto my garden/ path there. Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is
the
boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door with no
privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out unless they
invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I guess shoving the
fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) Couldn't do much
yesterday as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

I don't want to row the neighbour and I don't want trouble and OH is just
plain up for any argument right now. I cant get anyone in to do it, he
wont let me.

What would you do?

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door to fix
fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a wall

Consider trading OH in for a new more user friendly model.

I wish I could. I am getting fed up with the fact he has become a total
head case now ( and the GP doesnt see it)

wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door to
fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a
wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership of the
fence to him. Be done with it.

I am letting my crappy 6' fence fall down on the external boundaries, taking
panels to the dump as nature takes its course. I have ahedge anyway for
screening.

One day, if the bit between me and neighbour starts to fail, I may conceed
that to him - I have no interest in fences, they are a faff and I have no
animals that need to be contained.


--
Tim Watts

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door to
fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a
wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership of the
fence to him. Be done with it.

I dont really want to conceed ownership. It may sound petty but such
ownership conceeds about 2ft of my land ( the land which forms the wall
boundary from where the fence is , to where the wall runs up my side. I use
the top to grow plants. I really didnt want to lose that.

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens
in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door to
fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a
wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership of the
fence to him. Be done with it.

I dont really want to conceed ownership. It may sound petty but such
ownership conceeds about 2ft of my land ( the land which forms the wall
boundary from where the fence is , to where the wall runs up my side. I
use the top to grow plants. I really didnt want to lose that.

My real problem is I am not strong enough to life traditional fence panels
or planks or to put posts in. What I need ideally is some metal poles which
can be pushed in easily and I could srting some wire netting fencing to
them , attaching it with little wire or plastic tags. I did that once i9n a
house where the boundary was marked with concrete pilars and wire ( it was
a council house) and I just got a roll of wore netting and attached it to
the fence wires at 1 ft intervals - lasted forever and kept all animals and
everything out.

So what I need is something that will push in easy and then I can attach
wire netting to it.

On 26 Oct, 10:09, "Tim Downie" wrote:
"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in m...
I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down( including
posts). *I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy etc) .
The wall *is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high ( approx)
The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to *10 *ft *and neither
I nor neighbour could see each other. *I didn't put the *fence up ( nor the
wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted to be "my" boundary .
It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a small holder with a dog,
three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about *10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees take
over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running it
seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms *but he
has pushed ( it must have been pushed *as *the winds were sou' westers and
wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it *the way its fallen)
onto my garden/ path there. *Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is the
boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door with no
privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out unless they
invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I guess shoving the
fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) *Couldn't do much
yesterday *as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

I don't want to row the neighbour and I don't want trouble and OH is just
plain up for *any argument right now. *I cant get anyone in to do it, he
wont let me.

What would you do?

Go to neighbour. *Explain situation. *If he wants to keep his chickens in it's his responsibility. *It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

Consider trading OH in for a new more user friendly model.

Tim

Just as a point of interest it is generally accepted that the side of
the fence that has the posts on it is the owners side (On the
assumption that if you are going to erect a fence its going to be on
the boundary line as you won't want to be losing any of your real
estate )

Paul Mc Cann

On 26/10/2011 08:40, sweetheart wrote:
I would be pleased for some help again.
Following the storms three pieces of my boundary fence are down(
including posts). I knew they were dodgy- so should be no surprise.

The fence is on top of a boundary wall ( increases height for privacy
etc) . The wall is an old Cornish hedge/ stone one and is four feet high
( approx) The fence then brought the height of the boundary up to 10 ft
and neither I nor neighbour could see each other. I didn't put the fence
up ( nor the wall) . Its also the one which is generally accepted to be
"my" boundary . It runs between me and my neighbour ( who is a small
holder with a dog, three cats, chickens and three kids.

The is section is about 10 ft from the kitchen window ( down the garden)
After it the fence is in tact to the bottom of the garden, where trees
take over as boundary.
The other side of it the neighbour has his free range chickens running
it seems ( I can see them now)

The fence was leaning in to his property yesterday after the storms but
he has pushed ( it must have been pushed as the winds were sou' westers
and wouldn't have come from the N.East/ East to push it the way its
fallen) onto my garden/ path there. Its fully down.

I spoke to OH and he is being a bit stroppy and just said " the wall is
the boundary , not the fence, leave it" That leaves us and next door
with no privacy ( and his chickens penned because he cant let them out
unless they invade me) . Next door hasn't said anything ( yet) but I
guess shoving the fence over is effectively saying " repair it".

The storms are over for today ( due back tomorrow) Couldn't do much
yesterday as it rained hard even after the gales were over.

So I have two problems
a) do I have a legal obligation to repair this fence? Or is the wall the
boundary?

b) Can someone tell me a simple and easy way to fix it ( that I can do) ?

I don't want to row the neighbour and I don't want trouble and OH is
just plain up for any argument right now. I cant get anyone in to do it,
he wont let me.

What would you do?

Thanks.


The first thing to say - without wishing to sound sexist - is that
erecting 6' fence panels on the top of a 4' wall is no job for a woman.
The wind forces are too great, even when it's calm! Very few men would
try to do it single-handed. You'll need some help - even if only from
your neighbour - but far better to pay someone to do it. If OH won't
play ball, get the neighbour to organise it at your expense, if it's
your responsibility. [Incidentally, what do the house title deeds say
about responsibility for maintaining boundary fences, etc.?]

What sort of posts does/did the fence have - wood or metal? How are/were
they fixed to the wall? Ideally, you should have metal posts, 7 or 8
feet long, anchored into the wall by a substantial amount.
Alternatively, you could use wooden posts mounted in sockets similar to
these
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bolt-down-...ack-of-2/99237
bolted to the top of the wall. Is the top of the wall flat? How sound
is it for drilling and setting rawlbolts into?
--
Cheers,
Roger
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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On 26/10/2011 08:40, sweetheart wrote:



The first thing to say - without wishing to sound sexist - is that
erecting 6' fence panels on the top of a 4' wall is no job for a woman.
The wind forces are too great, even when it's calm! Very few men would try
to do it single-handed. You'll need some help - even if only from your
neighbour - but far better to pay someone to do it. If OH won't play ball,
get the neighbour to organise it at your expense, if it's your
responsibility. [Incidentally, what do the house title deeds say about
responsibility for maintaining boundary fences, etc.?]

The deeds are silent but traditionally the house has always maintained all
four sides vis hedges and fences ( it has been a field since the doomsday
book)

My other neibour once told me that specifically the north side was my
responsibility. Each of us takes responsibility for the North boundary. This
is the north boundary.

What sort of posts does/did the fence have - wood or metal? How are/were
they fixed to the wall?

They were wooden postsm driven into concrete in the top of the wall. One
of the posts did have a met post. As I tried to explain, I have two feet
of land on top of the wall and the boundary is on the edge of that. Its a
dirt cornish headge wall ( made up of soil with stones stuck in it and held
together with grass and tree roots. - the usual kind of Cornish headge

It was ordinary fencing. Some of it is planked ( thats still standing. These
three pieces are interwoven ( or whatever you call it - larch lap? They
have been there donkeys years. Were rotten as hell but now the posts have
failed, hence they came crashing down - or rather slowly melted onto my
neighbours garden and chiclen house . He shoved them vack onto my garden and
so we have an 18 ft gap in the fences.

Ideally, you should have metal posts, 7 or 8
feet long, anchored into the wall by a substantial amount. Alternatively,
you could use wooden posts mounted in sockets similar to these
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bolt-down-...ack-of-2/99237
bolted to the top of the wall. Is the top of the wall flat? How sound is
it for drilling and setting rawlbolts into?

Botls wot work as there is nothing to hold them into. Steaks work better
( hammered in) . Thats why I was looking for those t posts they use in
temporary building works on sites and such. Or farmes sometimes use as
stock fences temporarily. They can just be driven in. The thinner the
better as ground will start to give.

On Oct 26, 10:20*am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:

OK I know that sounds strange OH is getting very strange.
I have to love with it.

:~)

No you don't. Even very religious people get divorced or separate.

Cook his chips in liquid paraffin and you will soon get him moving.

wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens
in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door to
fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a
wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership of the
fence to him. Be done with it.

I dont really want to conceed ownership. It may sound petty but such
ownership conceeds about 2ft of my land ( the land which forms the wall
boundary from where the fence is , to where the wall runs up my side. I
use the top to grow plants. I really didnt want to lose that.

Fair enough.

Fencing isn't a hard job. Got any friends who can help? 2 of you can manage
a panel and three will make it a breeze. If any posts need replacing, dig a
narrow 18-24" deep hole, stick post in and wedge with some old bricks or
rocks, pour dry "postcrete" in hole, pack down, water lightly and leave for
a few days (it's a weak concrete so takes a while to get any strength). Fix
panel (nails or screws).

In fact the hardest part is getting the old post out if it was bedded in
concrete - that's the only bit that could be a PITA.

If it's only the panel that's down, 2-3 of you could have a new one nailed
in place in 20 minutes.

Or, you could staple or U-nail a bit of mesh fencing over the gap between
adjacent posts and grow your plants up that as an easier fix.

Most garden centres will deliver the odd fence panel, postcrete and posts to
you.

Cheers

Tim

--
Tim Watts

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens
in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door to
fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a
wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership of the
fence to him. Be done with it.

I dont really want to conceed ownership. It may sound petty but such
ownership conceeds about 2ft of my land ( the land which forms the wall
boundary from where the fence is , to where the wall runs up my side. I
use the top to grow plants. I really didnt want to lose that.


The position of any fences/walls/etc is nothing to do with the boundary.

The boundaries are as drawn on deeds, etc. Walls and fences are built
wherever you (and/or your nighbour) want them.

Doesn't concede ownership of the land.

May concede ownership of fence/wall etc.

(If its on YOUR land, its generally YOURS.)

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his chickens
in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep them
out.

That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for next door
to
fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to fix on top of a
wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership of
the
fence to him. Be done with it.

I dont really want to conceed ownership. It may sound petty but such
ownership conceeds about 2ft of my land ( the land which forms the wall
boundary from where the fence is , to where the wall runs up my side. I
use the top to grow plants. I really didnt want to lose that.

Fair enough.

Fencing isn't a hard job. Got any friends who can help? 2 of you can
manage
a panel and three will make it a breeze. If any posts need replacing, dig
a
narrow 18-24" deep hole, stick post in and wedge with some old bricks or
rocks, pour dry "postcrete" in hole, pack down, water lightly and leave
for
a few days (it's a weak concrete so takes a while to get any strength).
Fix
panel (nails or screws).

In fact the hardest part is getting the old post out if it was bedded in
concrete - that's the only bit that could be a PITA.

If it's only the panel that's down, 2-3 of you could have a new one nailed
in place in 20 minutes.

Or, you could staple or U-nail a bit of mesh fencing over the gap between
adjacent posts and grow your plants up that as an easier fix.

Most garden centres will deliver the odd fence panel, postcrete and posts
to
you.

Cheers

Tim

Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

On Oct 26, 11:27*am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message

...

On 26/10/2011 08:40, sweetheart wrote:

The first thing to say - without wishing to sound sexist - is that
erecting 6' fence panels on the top of a 4' wall is no job for a woman.
The wind forces are too great, even when it's calm! Very few men would try
to do it single-handed. You'll need some help - even if only from your
neighbour - but far better to pay someone to do it. If OH won't play ball,
get the neighbour to organise it at your expense, if it's your
responsibility. [Incidentally, what do the house title deeds say about
responsibility for maintaining boundary fences, etc.?]

The deeds are silent but traditionally the house has always maintained all
four sides vis hedges and fences ( it has been a field since the doomsday
book)

My other neibour once told me that specifically *the north side was my
responsibility. Each of us takes responsibility for the North boundary. This
is the north boundary.



What sort of posts does/did the fence have - wood or metal? How are/were
they fixed to the wall?

They were wooden postsm driven into concrete in the *top of the wall. *One
of the posts did have a met post. *As I tried to explain, *I have two feet
of land on top of the wall and the boundary is on the edge of that. *Its a
dirt cornish headge wall ( made up of soil with stones stuck in it *and held
together with grass and tree roots. - the usual kind of Cornish headge

It was ordinary fencing. Some of it is planked ( thats still standing. These
three pieces are interwoven ( or whatever you call it - larch lap? * They
have been there donkeys years. Were rotten as hell but now the posts have
failed, hence they came crashing down - or rather slowly melted onto my
neighbours garden and chiclen house . He shoved them vack onto my garden and
so we have an 18 ft gap in the fences.

Ideally, you should have metal posts, 7 or 8

feet long, anchored into the wall by a substantial amount. Alternatively,
you could use wooden posts mounted in sockets similar to these
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bolt-down-...5mm-pack-of-2/...
bolted to the top of the wall. Is the top of the wall flat? How sound is
it for drilling and setting rawlbolts into?

Botls wot work as there is nothing to hold them into. * *Steaks work better
( hammered in) *. Thats why I was looking for those t posts they use in
temporary building works on sites and such. *Or farmes sometimes use as
stock fences temporarily. * They can just be driven in. *The thinner the
better as *ground will start to give.

It's a pig of a job sorting out the concrete the posts went into and
you can't just knock meta-posts into the side if you want to use
standard panels.

Can't you grow an hedge out of thorn and cherry or apples?
A temporary bodge would serve to keep the neighbour's livestock out.
Get a neighbour to knock in a few posts and nail the scrap panels back
up with bits of 2 x 1.

If you plant fast growing stuff and the bodge lasts through winter,
you should be OK for the next few decades.

http://www.hedgenursery.co.uk/modules/user/advice.asp
http://www.cornishhedges.co.uk/PDF/who-owns.pdf

Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
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Tim Watts

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Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
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Tim Watts

OK.... quick Goggle on "Gardenlaw" throws up 6'6" without planning
permission.

Mea partial culpa.
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Ian

On Oct 26, 10:54*am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:

So what I need is something that will push in easy and then I can attach
wire netting to it.-

Bodge some cable (washing line?) running between the two good bits of
fence and suspend some netting from that? Grow something quick growing
up the netting so its covered up next summer and you can take your
time sorting out something proper.

As for your other half, I have no useful suggestions apart from a
trial separation to see if that bucks up his ideas!

Matt

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Ian wrote:

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
--
Tim Watts

OK.... quick Goggle on "Gardenlaw" throws up 6'6" without planning
permission.

but it's only 1.5m against a highway. (Not relevant in this case, I know)

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Ian wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
--
Tim Watts

OK.... quick Goggle on "Gardenlaw" throws up 6'6" without planning
permission.

Mea partial culpa.
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Ian

I'm confused because I don't remember talking about height - just the depths
of the posts...

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Tim Watts

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
--
Tim Watts

OK.... quick Goggle on "Gardenlaw" throws up 6'6" without planning
permission.

Mea partial culpa.
--
Ian

I'm confused because I don't remember talking about height - just the
depths
of the posts...

ISWYM

(Note to self...Must read threads properly.)
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Tim Watts

sweetheart wrote:
"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
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wrote:

Go to neighbour. Explain situation. If he wants to keep his
chickens in
it's his responsibility. It's not your responsibility to keep
them out. That may have to be the answer. It would also be easier for
next
door to fix fencing sine they are on a level and I am trying to
fix on top of a wall


That's what I would do - go to the neighbour and conceed ownership
of the fence to him. Be done with it.

I dont really want to conceed ownership. It may sound petty but such
ownership conceeds about 2ft of my land ( the land which forms the wall
boundary from where the fence is , to where the wall runs up my
side. I use the top to grow plants. I really didnt want to lose that.

My real problem is I am not strong enough to life traditional fence
panels or planks or to put posts in. What I need ideally is some
metal poles which can be pushed in easily and I could srting some
wire netting fencing to them , attaching it with little wire or
plastic tags. I did that once i9n a house where the boundary was
marked with concrete pilars and wire ( it was a council house) and
I just got a roll of wore netting and attached it to the fence wires
at 1 ft intervals - lasted forever and kept all animals and
everything out.
So what I need is something that will push in easy

Ooh-err.

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Adam

"Ian" wrote in message
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
--
Tim Watts

OK.... quick Goggle on "Gardenlaw" throws up 6'6" without planning
permission.

Mea partial culpa.
--
Ian

oops - well we have always had this fence and wall. Its all round the house.
As I said, I didn't put it up. The trees at the back are probably 20 ft
high.
I thought that law only applied in urban gardens?

"charles" wrote in message
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In article ,
Ian wrote:

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:


Ummm... isn't the maximum height supposed to be 6'????

eh?
--
Tim Watts

OK.... quick Goggle on "Gardenlaw" throws up 6'6" without planning
permission.

but it's only 1.5m against a highway. (Not relevant in this case, I know)

Blimey - "against the highway" ( the lane that is at the front of the house)
we have a dirty great 15 ft retaining wall because the house is up above
the highway and so is the land. The lane cuts through the valley. On top of
that I have a three foot fence. to stop me falling over when I am gardening.

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"Owain" wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 12:30 pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Cook his chips in liquid paraffin and you will soon get him moving.

.... and a new kitchen on the fire insurance :-)

Do me a favour. We have already had a fire in the kitchen when OH tried to
cook shredded wheat in the box on the cooker hib and it caught my washing,
my work surface and blackened the whole kitchen.

I cleaned up but he just looked and said about the schorched surfaces " oh
those are OK", you can get by with that now cant you?"
So I havent had my kitchen. I painted it all.

I dont hold out hope for anything really. In three years ( or 12 years -
like the bathroom) he might get round to it.

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 11:27 am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message

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Well I am either optimistic or foolhardy. I have ordered up 30 planks of
wood and a post from the saw mill ( arrive tomorrow). I am going to try and
pick out the old wooden post from its concrete base ( I have found it and it
seems solid) and put in a new one and attach the planks to the posts ( the
other posts are solid.) It is only the fence panels that have gone.

My mum has said she will help me.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.

"Terry Fields" wrote in message
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sweetheart wrote:

My other neibour once told me that specifically the north side was my
responsibility. Each of us takes responsibility for the North boundary.
This
is the north boundary.

If your neighbour told you the moon was made of green cheese, would
you believe him?

Quite.

So why do you believe him over this?

He is an old villager and has nothing to gain from telling me. Had he not
said it, I would be maintaining his boundary as well.

It looks ti all intents that the previous owners ( and before) have upkept
all the boundaries and fences. In fact probably put most of the fences up.



If the deeds don't specify which property is responsible for each
fence or boundary, then only a court case could sort out ownership.
People have bankrupted themselves over boundary problems.

You might want to consider replacing the fencing with pyracantha or
berberis stenophylla, either of which will last longer than fencing,
and are very good at keeping animals out.

I doubt there is a cost-free method of dealing with the problem no
matter what your OH might wish.

Thanks

On Oct 27, 1:44*pm, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
"Terry Fields" wrote in message

He is an old villager and has nothing to gain from telling me. Had he not
said it, I would be maintaining his boundary as well.

*It looks to all intents that the previous owners ( and before) have upkept
all the boundaries and fences. In fact probably put most of the fences up..

If the deeds don't specify which property is responsible for each
fence or boundary, then only a court case could sort out ownership.
People have bankrupted themselves over boundary problems.

The neighbour is giving away his rights to the land, she should be
happy with that. If she lives in Cornwall she can finagle more
property out of it if she was that sort.

Getting posts into the old concrete is going to be fun. Even with a
long drill and scoop to get the dbris out, the new posts won't fit I
am sure. It will take more than a potato peeler to shave them down.
I'd go with the hedging as was the original concept of that style of
fence:

http://www.cornishhedges.co.uk/PDF/who-owns.pdf