There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

On Oct 6, 3:37*pm, "Baz" wrote:
"Charlie" wrote in message

...

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them? Should I try the same, there's nothing really to grab
hold of.

Charlie

On Oct 6, 3:42*pm, Charlie wrote:
On Oct 6, 3:37*pm, "Baz" wrote:









"Charlie" wrote in message

...

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them?

Eternal damnation if you mess woth them.

MBQ

"Charlie" wrote in message
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On Oct 6, 3:37 pm, "Baz" wrote:
"Charlie" wrote in message

...

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered
collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them? Should I try the same, there's nothing really to grab
hold of.

Charlie

I thought that the top one was a clear rubber Sucker Hook thing. I don't
know what that is, can you read the writing?
Looking at it I would get a priest in.

Baz

On Oct 6, 4:06*pm, "Man at B&Q" wrote:
On Oct 6, 3:42*pm, Charlie wrote:









On Oct 6, 3:37*pm, "Baz" wrote:

"Charlie" wrote in message

....

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them?

Eternal damnation if you mess woth them.

MBQ

Hmmm, that's the assumption I had made.
Anything I can try? I want to decorate the room. Paint with PVA and
fill?

Charlie

On 06/10/2011 16:48, Baz wrote:
wrote in message
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On Oct 6, 3:37 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered
collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them? Should I try the same, there's nothing really to grab
hold of.

Charlie

I thought that the top one was a clear rubber Sucker Hook thing. I don't
know what that is, can you read the writing?
Looking at it I would get a priest in.

Baz



A Fischer Fixing of some type...

On 06/10/2011 17:06, AlanD wrote:
On 06/10/2011 16:48, Baz wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Oct 6, 3:37 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered
collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the
fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them? Should I try the same, there's nothing really to grab
hold of.

Charlie

I thought that the top one was a clear rubber Sucker Hook thing. I don't
know what that is, can you read the writing?
Looking at it I would get a priest in.

Baz



A Fischer Fixing of some type...
Try this pdf - it is Fischers cataloge
http://www.fischer.co.uk/PortalData/...g_guide_en.pdf

I wonder if it is a screw in plasterboard fixing. Does it have what
looks like a posi screwdriver slot in the centre? - if it has then you
can just unscrew it (page 22 or so in the pdf

Malcolm

On Oct 6, 5:39*pm, Malcolm wrote:
On 06/10/2011 17:06, AlanD wrote:







On 06/10/2011 16:48, Baz wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Oct 6, 3:37 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

....

There are some wall fixings from a mirror the previous owners had up
in our lounge.
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

Has anyone got any ideas about the best way to remove the following
fixings:

http://i52.tinypic.com/qs5chk.jpg

Many thanks

Charlie

Gently tap the head of the bolt and that should release the tapered
collets
inside the raw bolt fixing. Take the bolt out and then ease the
fixing out
with a screwdriver or the like.

If that fails..................Angle Grinder.

Baz,

Thanks for that, the bolts came out quite easily with that technique.

Now what about the other fixings, the ones with the little picture of
a fish on them? Should I try the same, there's nothing really to grab
hold of.

Charlie

I thought that the top one was a clear rubber Sucker Hook thing. I don't
know what that is, can you read the writing?
Looking at it I would get a priest in.

Baz

A Fischer Fixing of some type...

Try this pdf - it is Fischers cataloge

http://www.fischer.co.uk/PortalData/...systems/fixing...

I wonder if it is a screw in plasterboard fixing. *Does it have what
looks like a posi screwdriver slot in the centre? - if it has then you
can just unscrew it *(page 22 or so in the pdf

Malcolm

Hi Malcom,

No unfortunately the end is flat.

Charlie

Malcolm

Hi Malcom,

No unfortunately the end is flat.

Charlie

Like what someone said earlier, angle grinder. Start by attacking the
central rod. Is the dished washer below the plaster surface or above it?
If above, carry on grinding until you have released the washer from the
rod. If necessary grind away the washer completely. There will be some
mess but eventually you should end up with a hole which can be filled. A
standard 115 mm grinder will be a bit big, but should do it. If you have
a "dremel" type mini-grinder, the reinforced cutting disks should do the
job more delicately. I've never had that much success using grinding
stones to remove metal, but an air powered die grinder might work here.

On Oct 6, 9:26*pm, Newshound wrote:
Malcolm

Hi Malcom,

No unfortunately the end is flat.

Charlie

Like what someone said earlier, angle grinder. Start by attacking the
central rod. Is the dished washer below the plaster surface or above it?
If above, carry on grinding until you have released the washer from the
rod. If necessary grind away the washer completely. There will be some
mess but eventually you should end up with a hole which can be filled. A
standard 115 mm grinder will be a bit big, but should do it. If you have
a "dremel" type mini-grinder, the reinforced cutting disks should do the
job more delicately. I've never had that much success using grinding
stones to remove metal, but an air powered die grinder might work here.


Oh crap, that wasn't what I expecting. Guess I'm going to have hire an
angle grinder.
The washer is just proud of the plaster surface.

Charlie

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Charlie
wrote:

Oh crap, that wasn't what I expecting. Guess I'm going to have hire an
angle grinder.
The washer is just proud of the plaster surface.

Angle grinder + plaster = big mess, dust everywhere...

Is taking a hammer and bashing it an option, perhaps using some sort of punch?
Pound until below the surface, firm up the cracked stuff with PVA, fill until
even?


Thomas Prufer

On Oct 7, 4:23*pm, Thomas Prufer prufer.pub...@mnet-
online.de.invalid wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Charlie
wrote:

Oh crap, that wasn't what I expecting. Guess I'm going to have hire an
angle grinder.
The washer is just proud of the plaster surface.

Angle grinder + plaster = big mess, dust everywhere...

Is taking a hammer and bashing it an option, perhaps using some sort of punch?
Pound until below the surface, firm up the cracked stuff with PVA, fill until
even?

Thomas Prufer

As Newshound said earlier, hopefully I can remove the end of the
central rod with the angle grinder and then the washer will come off.
This way I won't have to touch the plaster with the angle grinder.

Might give it a quick pound though see if it budges.

Thanks

Charlie wrote:
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

I gave up trying to carefull remove fixings and filling in the
resultant holes
and went all-out to just completely replaster from scratch:
http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
"That's load-bearing wallpaper, that is"

I can understand if it's not a option though.

JGH

On Oct 8, 12:21*am, jgharston wrote:
Charlie wrote:
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

I gave up trying to carefull remove fixings and filling in the
resultant holes
and went all-out to just completely replaster from scratch:http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
"That's load-bearing wallpaper, that is"

I can understand if it's not a option though.

JGH

Holy Cow!!!
No, not really an option - decorators coming Tuesday.

On Oct 8, 11:39*am, Charlie wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:21*am, jgharston wrote:

Charlie wrote:
I'm about to remove them and realised the plaster has blown around
them and am very wary of pulling down half the wall (I speak from past
experience)

I gave up trying to carefull remove fixings and filling in the
resultant holes
and went all-out to just completely replaster from scratch:http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
"That's load-bearing wallpaper, that is"

I can understand if it's not a option though.

JGH

Holy Cow!!!
No, not really an option - decorators coming Tuesday.

I tried a pair of mole grips on the central shaft and it unscrewed
quite easily. Then the washer just flipped off no problem. I'm
guessing there was a screw head that sheared when a certain torque was
applied.

Thanks for all the help, got there in the end :-)

Charlie wrote:
http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
Holy Cow!!!

Most of that came off as I pulled the wallpaper off.

JGH

On Oct 10, 12:05*am, jgharston wrote:
Charlie wrote:
http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
Holy Cow!!!

Most of that came off as I pulled the wallpaper off.

JGH

Did they stick the wallpaper on with No Nails? :-)

Charlie wrote:
http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
Most of that came off as I pulled the wallpaper off.
Did they stick the wallpaper on with No Nails? :-)

I think it's more that they stuck the plaster on with spit and a
prayer.

JGH

On Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52:26 PM UTC+1, jgharston wrote:
Charlie wrote:
http://pics.mdfs.net/2011/10/111004.htm
Most of that came off as I pulled the wallpaper off.
Did they stick the wallpaper on with No Nails? :-)

I think it's more that they stuck the plaster on with spit and a
prayer.

I never really understood browning plaster. It seems to have no adhesive properties whatsoever and relies on mechanical fixing around mortar joints etc.
It is supposed to be good for high suction backgrounds so it must hold more water I suppose.
But I always use bonding plaster with the substrate PVA'd if it is high suction.
Simon.