I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

thanks

Richard Morley

Jack Fate wrote:
I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

thanks

Richard Morley

Put two thinnish (10-12mm) bits of timber across the wall at the
heights you want to screw the radiator brackets on. These bits of
timber to be fixed to studs in the wall. Then screw the rad brackets to
the timber using all the screw holes. This hould be fine. Alternatively
still use the timber but attach to the lath and plaster with butterfly
fixings if you really can't find any studs in suitable places.

I've done both without any problems.

Fash

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:02:16 -0000, "Jack Fate"
wrote:

I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

thanks

Richard Morley

Use a wood drill, not a masonary one to drill the holes and little
pressure on the drill. That way you will not disturb the lathes much.
Also try to put one set of screws in a vertical support.

It might be wise to use cavity wall fixings that go right through the
wall and open up in the cavity.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jack Fate"
saying something like:

I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

Cut a sheet of 1/2" ply and mount it to the wall where the rad will go.
If the rad's wide enough it'll span 2 or 3 battens; simply screw the rad
brackets to the ply.

If it's a small bathroom rad you might find the hollow fasteners are
good enough straight into the plasterboard.
--

Dave

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jack Fate"
saying something like:

I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

Cut a sheet of 1/2" ply and mount it to the wall where the rad will go.
If the rad's wide enough it'll span 2 or 3 battens; simply screw the rad
brackets to the ply.

If it's a small bathroom rad you might find the hollow fasteners are
good enough straight into the plasterboard.
--

Dave

Many thanks to all for your prompt suggestions.

Are there always Battons in a P & L wall & any sure fire way to locate them
? Remember this is P &L , not plasterboard. This is a 1909 house.

Richard

Jack Fate wrote:

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jack Fate"
saying something like:

I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

Cut a sheet of 1/2" ply and mount it to the wall where the rad will go.
If the rad's wide enough it'll span 2 or 3 battens; simply screw the rad
brackets to the ply.

If it's a small bathroom rad you might find the hollow fasteners are
good enough straight into the plasterboard.
--

Dave

Many thanks to all for your prompt suggestions.

Are there always Battons in a P & L wall & any sure fire way to locate them
? Remember this is P &L , not plasterboard. This is a 1909 house.

Richard

The laths are fastened to something! It's these vertical studs that
you'd be aiming to find.

Jack Fate wrote:

Are there always batons in a P & L wall & any sure fire way to locate them
? Remember this is P &L , not plasterboard. This is a 1909 house.

Yes but they will be remarkably skimpy maybe 1 1/2" rather than the
full 2". They will be at 2 ft or some other imperial measurement
"centre to centre" though. Poke a smallish hole somewhere the rad will
hide, then insert you tape measure. Where it stops you have found a
stud.

You should be able to plug the hole no problem or cover the whole of
the wall at the back of the rad with some aluminium faced plasterboard
for extra insulation.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:35:41 -0000, "Jack Fate"
wrote:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
.. .
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jack Fate"
saying something like:

I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

Cut a sheet of 1/2" ply and mount it to the wall where the rad will go.
If the rad's wide enough it'll span 2 or 3 battens; simply screw the rad
brackets to the ply.

If it's a small bathroom rad you might find the hollow fasteners are
good enough straight into the plasterboard.
--

Dave

Many thanks to all for your prompt suggestions.

Are there always Battons in a P & L wall & any sure fire way to locate them
? Remember this is P &L , not plasterboard. This is a 1909 house.

Richard


I don't know about "always" but in my flat any bits that are Lath and Plaster
are fixed to either joists ( ceilings) or timber strapping on the walls .Can't
you poke around where the radiator is to go to find what the laths are fixed to
..It'll be hidden by the rad anyway ....Just remove some of the laths to see
whats behind them .


The best idea sounds like the fixing of horizontal timber straps to whatever the
laths are fixed to but make sure they themselves are secured to the wall behind




Stuart .

Yes but they will be remarkably skimpy maybe 1 1/2" rather than the
full 2". They will be at 2 ft or some other imperial measurement
"centre to centre" though.

My house was built in 1909 and the studwork is of identical dimensions that
you would find today. The biggest problem is that the laths set off a stud
locator, making them useless. Like you, I find the studs by drilling a hole
and poking around (but in my case with stiff wire liberated from some 2.5mm
T&E I find lying about).

Christian.

Thanks

Brilliant & helpfull suggestions.

Many thanks to all

Richard
"Stuart" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:35:41 -0000, "Jack Fate"

wrote:


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
. ..
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jack Fate"
saying something like:

I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

Cut a sheet of 1/2" ply and mount it to the wall where the rad will go.
If the rad's wide enough it'll span 2 or 3 battens; simply screw the rad
brackets to the ply.

If it's a small bathroom rad you might find the hollow fasteners are
good enough straight into the plasterboard.
--

Dave

Many thanks to all for your prompt suggestions.

Are there always Battons in a P & L wall & any sure fire way to locate
them
? Remember this is P &L , not plasterboard. This is a 1909 house.

Richard


I don't know about "always" but in my flat any bits that are Lath and
Plaster
are fixed to either joists ( ceilings) or timber strapping on the walls
.Can't
you poke around where the radiator is to go to find what the laths are
fixed to
.It'll be hidden by the rad anyway ....Just remove some of the laths to
see
whats behind them .


The best idea sounds like the fixing of horizontal timber straps to
whatever the
laths are fixed to but make sure they themselves are secured to the wall
behind




Stuart .

In article ,
Jack Fate wrote:
I fear this will always be rath Hit miss . However does anybody have any
tips.?

IMHO, rads need to be very firmly fixed - enough to take a man's weight.
If they get pulled off, they can make quite a mess and the pipework etc
difficult and possibly expensive to repair.

So with l&p your only real option is to run some form of noggin between
the studs. Perhaps the easiest would be a galvanised steel strip - this
could be let into the wall with minimum making good if you take care.

--
*Two many clicks spoil the browse *

Dave Plowman London SW
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