On the basis that there may be some tennis players here, but there are
many more who've wielded a hammer for extensive periods and similar
activities which can generate RSI in the elbow, has anyone any
experience of what is called an "Epicondylitis Clasp"?

A pal was wearing one today saying his physio daughter recommended it,
but he'd not had it on long enough to know if it works.

I collected problems in both elbows many years ago - I blamed it at
the time on handling too many bricks probably the wrong way, though
I'm not sure if there actually is a right way. Anyway both elbows can
give me bother on occasions and anything that does't cost a session at
the physio is worth a try.

Any comments ?
Rob

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:47:12 +0100, robgraham
wrote:

"Epicondylitis Clasp"

I didn't use one of them - but did try various other ways of applying
pressure in the right place - and they certainly gave some temporary
relief.

What actually worked for me in the end was ultrasound - I actually felt
something almost melt away as it was applied. The physio doing it didn't
seem to get that - so seems like she just happened to do it right by
accident.

I promise not to mention my hobby horse in this context - though it is,
IMHO, as valid as ever.

--
Rod

On 22/08/2011 18:45, polygonum wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:47:12 +0100, robgraham
wrote:

"Epicondylitis Clasp"

I didn't use one of them - but did try various other ways of applying
pressure in the right place - and they certainly gave some temporary
relief.

What actually worked for me in the end was ultrasound - I actually felt
something almost melt away as it was applied. The physio doing it didn't
seem to get that - so seems like she just happened to do it right by
accident.

I promise not to mention my hobby horse in this context - though it is,
IMHO, as valid as ever.


Ultrasound did my shoulders some good too. I had "grumbling" symptoms
for a while which turned into a "classic" frozen shoulder, which also
showed classical recovery over a period of a year or two.

I'm almost reluctant to admit this, but I found that a magnetic bracelet
was remarkably effective. As a physicist with a research background I am
very skeptical indeed about most of the "alternatives" including
magnets, but they have given me a lot of pain relief.

I now use one periodically when problems flare up, and it still seems to
work, although not so dramatically in the chronic phase as it did in the
initial acute phase.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:48:15 +0100, Newshound
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 18:45, polygonum wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:47:12 +0100, robgraham
wrote:

"Epicondylitis Clasp"

I didn't use one of them - but did try various other ways of applying
pressure in the right place - and they certainly gave some temporary
relief.

What actually worked for me in the end was ultrasound - I actually felt
something almost melt away as it was applied. The physio doing it didn't
seem to get that - so seems like she just happened to do it right by
accident.

I promise not to mention my hobby horse in this context - though it is,
IMHO, as valid as ever.


Ultrasound did my shoulders some good too. I had "grumbling" symptoms
for a while which turned into a "classic" frozen shoulder, which also
showed classical recovery over a period of a year or two.

I'm almost reluctant to admit this, but I found that a magnetic bracelet
was remarkably effective. As a physicist with a research background I am
very skeptical indeed about most of the "alternatives" including
magnets, but they have given me a lot of pain relief.

I now use one periodically when problems flare up, and it still seems to
work, although not so dramatically in the chronic phase as it did in the
initial acute phase.

Have you speculated on how it could be having such an effect? I too am
deeply sceptical - sometimes, I fear, excessively so. But I also believe
that all sorts of things do have unexplained abd often unanticipated
effects.

--
Rod

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT), robgraham
wrote:

On the basis that there may be some tennis players here, but there are
many more who've wielded a hammer for extensive periods and similar
activities which can generate RSI in the elbow, has anyone any
experience of what is called an "Epicondylitis Clasp"?

A pal was wearing one today saying his physio daughter recommended it,
but he'd not had it on long enough to know if it works.

I collected problems in both elbows many years ago - I blamed it at
the time on handling too many bricks probably the wrong way, though
I'm not sure if there actually is a right way. Anyway both elbows can
give me bother on occasions and anything that does't cost a session at
the physio is worth a try.

Any comments ?

I have a Thamert Epi-med clasp which has served me well.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&k...8zxb49 l5p4_b
I always use it when carrying out any heavy lifting or any work that
is likely to jar my elbow and it really does provide excellent
support.

rbel

Ultrasound did my shoulders some good too. I had "grumbling" symptoms
for a while which turned into a "classic" frozen shoulder, which also
showed classical recovery over a period of a year or two.

I'm almost reluctant to admit this, but I found that a magnetic
bracelet was remarkably effective. As a physicist with a research
background I am very skeptical indeed about most of the "alternatives"
including magnets, but they have given me a lot of pain relief.

I now use one periodically when problems flare up, and it still seems
to work, although not so dramatically in the chronic phase as it did
in the initial acute phase.

Have you speculated on how it could be having such an effect? I too am
deeply sceptical - sometimes, I fear, excessively so. But I also believe
that all sorts of things do have unexplained abd often unanticipated
effects.

Being of a somewhat scientific bent, of course I have!

1) Counter irritant: the distraction of rubbing bracelet means you stop
noticing the shoulder ache so much.

2) Lorenz effect: current in a conductor (nerves) within a magnetic
field generates a physical force. This stimulation affects in some way
the nerve signals which get channelled to the brain via the spinal column.

3) Faraday effect: moving conductor (blood flow) in a magnetic field
generates a potential difference across the blood vessels in the wrist.
This either affects nerve signals or perhaps influences blood chemistry
somehow.

4) Placebo effect. The possibility that one or more of these physical
process *might* be doing something convinces the brain that it could be
doing some good.

But honestly, I didn't come up with hypotheses 1 - 3 until after the
device, tried in some desperation, had a truly remarkable effect. Pain
mitigation within a couple of hours, almost full pain relief within half
a day (to fairly severe pain which had not been really successfully
treated by GP, orthopedic consultant, and physiotherapists).

On Aug 22, 8:21*pm, rbel wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT), robgraham









wrote:
On the basis that there may be some tennis players here, but there are
many more who've wielded a hammer for extensive periods and similar
activities which can generate RSI in the elbow, has anyone any
experience of what is called an "Epicondylitis Clasp"?

A pal was wearing one today saying his physio daughter recommended it,
but he'd not had it on long enough to know if it works.

I collected problems in both elbows many years ago - I blamed it at
the time on handling too many bricks probably the wrong way, though
I'm not sure if there actually is a right way. *Anyway both elbows can
give me bother on occasions and anything that does't cost a session at
the physio is worth a try.

Any comments ?

I have a Thamert Epi-med clasp which has served me well.http://www.amazon..co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&...=googhydr-21&i...
I always use it when carrying out any heavy lifting or any work that
is likely to jar my elbow and it really does provide excellent
support.

rbel

Thanks guys - in danger of the conversation turning to quackery, but
the input on the magnetic bracelet is interesting too. The trouble is
that both elbows suffer; ummm ....I'll buy one and see if it does
anything !!
Rob

"robgraham" wrote in message
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On Aug 22, 8:21 pm, rbel wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT), robgraham









wrote:
On the basis that there may be some tennis players here, but there are
many more who've wielded a hammer for extensive periods and similar
activities which can generate RSI in the elbow, has anyone any
experience of what is called an "Epicondylitis Clasp"?

A pal was wearing one today saying his physio daughter recommended it,
but he'd not had it on long enough to know if it works.

I collected problems in both elbows many years ago - I blamed it at
the time on handling too many bricks probably the wrong way, though
I'm not sure if there actually is a right way. Anyway both elbows can
give me bother on occasions and anything that does't cost a session at
the physio is worth a try.

Any comments ?

I have a Thamert Epi-med clasp which has served me
well.http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&k...=googhydr-21&i...
I always use it when carrying out any heavy lifting or any work that
is likely to jar my elbow and it really does provide excellent
support.

rbel

Thanks guys - in danger of the conversation turning to quackery, but
the input on the magnetic bracelet is interesting too. The trouble is
that both elbows suffer; ummm ....I'll buy one and see if it does
anything !!
Rob

I would be inclined to try anything Quakery or not, reason being some things
are not so mad as we think although like most I am not convinced, however, I
got to thinking....
Some people hear voices, now if you think about it the atmosphere is
littered with sound waves that we cannot hear but tune in a radio and it
picks up the sound, so what if a person was tuned slightly different, would
he not hear those sounds?
A dog hears things we dont hear as its hearing system is tuned differently
to humans, maybe some humans are tuned different and can hear things most of
us cant.

Just my pennys worth but worth a thought. Going to pour another pint now
:-)

Thanks guys - in danger of the conversation turning to quackery, but
the input on the magnetic bracelet is interesting too. The trouble is
that both elbows suffer; ummm ....I'll buy one and see if it does
anything !!
Rob

This one is cheap and seems to have a reasonable number of rare earth
magnets

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gents-Magn...item2312ce75e7

My "main" one looks more like a stainless watch strap and has larger,
probably not rare earth magnets.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "SS"
saying something like:

Some people hear voices, now if you think about it the atmosphere is
littered with sound waves that we cannot hear but tune in a radio and it
picks up the sound, so what if a person was tuned slightly different, would
he not hear those sounds?

Only if he takes the tinfoil from his head.

FFS.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT), robgraham
wrote:

On the basis that there may be some tennis players here, but there are
many more who've wielded a hammer for extensive periods and similar
activities which can generate RSI in the elbow, has anyone any
experience of what is called an "Epicondylitis Clasp"?

A pal was wearing one today saying his physio daughter recommended it,
but he'd not had it on long enough to know if it works.

I collected problems in both elbows many years ago - I blamed it at
the time on handling too many bricks probably the wrong way, though
I'm not sure if there actually is a right way. Anyway both elbows can
give me bother on occasions and anything that does't cost a session at
the physio is worth a try.


I tried one for a couple of years after damaging my elbow overdoing
badminton at an age when I should have known better (my wife said my
backhands were weak so she did some lobs for about 10mins which I
tried to hammer back before there was a crack and my elbow went).

Anyhow - the clasp gave some relief. But strangely the tennis elbow
became golfers elbow (ie moved from the back of the elbow to the front
edge).

I went for several sessions of physio, including ultrasound and there
was some improvement and the best relief I got was from wearing a
Sports Tennis Elbow Support from Boots.

Several years on and I don't wear anything now. There is still some
discomfort when I'm doing certain activities and I've not tried
badminton or tennis since though I have hit a few golf balls.

My wife says she's had relief by wearing magnetic bracelets.


--
AnthonyL

On Aug 23, 12:11*pm, (AnthonyL) wrote:

Several years on and I don't wear anything now. *

I hope you're very carefull when hammering nails...