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Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? It it still free in the library? -- Adam |
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On 21/07/2011 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote:
Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. I have subscribed for some years. It is now getting more glossy and less factually detailed though. Free trials are usually available. Useful for stuff like kitchen appliances etc but they do seem to spend quite a bit of time testing mobiles, cameras etc which are well covered by specialist magazines and their websites. |
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On 7/21/2011 9:54 PM, Invisible Man wrote:
On 21/07/2011 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. I have subscribed for some years. It is now getting more glossy and less factually detailed though. Free trials are usually available. Useful for stuff like kitchen appliances etc but they do seem to spend quite a bit of time testing mobiles, cameras etc which are well covered by specialist magazines and their websites. 15+ years ago, they had what appeared to be accurate details of the items they tested. I often disagreed with their 'best buys', but with the detail they then provided, I could choose based on _my_ priorities. They seem to give considerably less detail and more opinion these days. And on some items where I was familiar with the products being tested, the few details given were not always entirely accurate. |
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On 7/21/2011 9:54 PM, Invisible Man wrote: On 21/07/2011 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. I have subscribed for some years. It is now getting more glossy and less factually detailed though. Free trials are usually available. Useful for stuff like kitchen appliances etc but they do seem to spend quite a bit of time testing mobiles, cameras etc which are well covered by specialist magazines and their websites. 15+ years ago, they had what appeared to be accurate details of the items they tested. I often disagreed with their 'best buys', but with the detail they then provided, I could choose based on _my_ priorities. Quite so. They seem to give considerably less detail and more opinion these days. And on some items where I was familiar with the products being tested, the few details given were not always entirely accurate. Indeed. They also seem to have abandoned their previous no-nonsense practical air and bowed to the winds of fashion and rampant consumerism. Just recently there was an article on (IIRC) matching kettles and toasters. -- Mike Barnes |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:18:57 +0100, Hugh Jampton
wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? The reason it's mentioned in another thread is because a key article - paid for by subscribers - has been put into the public arena. Many, many years ago I was a subscriber and found most of the contents useful most of the time. I ended my subscription not because I didn't want good consumer advice myself or because I objected to it being made available to all but because it was being splashed across the media a week or more before my copy of the magazine would arrive in the post and somehow that didn't seem fair. Nick |
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"Nick Odell" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:18:57 +0100, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? The reason it's mentioned in another thread is because a key article - paid for by subscribers - has been put into the public arena. Many, many years ago I was a subscriber and found most of the contents useful most of the time. I ended my subscription not because I didn't want good consumer advice myself or because I objected to it being made available to all but because it was being splashed across the media a week or more before my copy of the magazine would arrive in the post and somehow that didn't seem fair. They did that with a small number of articles to get publicity. The actual stuff in the articles wasn't worth the paper usually. Nick |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:18:57 +0100, Hugh Jampton wrote:
Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. I used to. But they have never been good at getting things right, and their views on what is good and bad are a little bit...weird. Inaccuracies abound. Another problem is that by the time they've reviewed something, it's often been replaced by a new model. Internet research tends to be more useful (and cheaper) IMO. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? Do they still do a free trial period? In general quite useful for things you just want to work like a hoover or washing machine. But for hobby type things where you have your own likes - - cameras, hi-fi, cars etc - you might well disagree with their findings. Reader's surveys can be useful to get a general view on reliability, etc. -- *Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote:
Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:00 +0100, pcb1962 wrote:
On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:00 +0100, pcb1962 wrote: On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( Philishave. |
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On 22/07/2011 08:40, Scion wrote:
PeterC wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:00 +0100, pcb1962 wrote: On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( Philishave. The top of the range Philishaves are good but expensive |
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On 22 July, 09:31, Invisible Man wrote:
On 22/07/2011 08:40, Scion wrote: PeterC wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:00 +0100, pcb1962 wrote: On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( Philishave. The top of the range Philishaves are good but expensive An article I read recently recommended dis-regarding the top and the bottom reviews in these circumstances. Bit like ignoring the top and bottom fuel consumption figures given out by manufacturers. (Where I generally take the average of the best and worst) Paul Mc Cann |
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On 22/07/2011 09:31, Invisible Man wrote:
On 22/07/2011 08:40, Scion wrote: PeterC wrote: - still don't knw what to get :-( Philishave. The top of the range Philishaves are good but expensive As are the replacement heads when they need replacing. |
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On 22/07/2011 08:40, Scion wrote:
I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get:-( Philishave. Or grow a beard. Mind you I do have a Philishave beard trimmer. FWIW my last shaver was a Braun but that was last used so long ago I can't remember how good it was. -- Roger Chapman |
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On Jul 22, 8:28*am, PeterC wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:00 +0100, pcb1962 wrote: On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( Philips use a hair lifting mechanism for a closer shave. Its a big cause of skin problems. Braun syncro seems about the best out there, thotough cuting but not hard on skin, and dont use any lifting system - but they're not a cheap option. NT |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:13:35 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote:
Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( Philips use a hair lifting mechanism for a closer shave. Its a big cause of skin problems. Braun syncro seems about the best out there, thotough cuting but not hard on skin, and dont use any lifting system - but they're not a cheap option. I've a deep-rooted objection to paying a lot for something that is basically the same across the range. A shaver or hair trimmer should just work and not cause any problems. Added to this is my attitude that such routines are a waste of time and effort (apart from just feeling/looking better) because within a v. short time it's back to square one. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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PeterC wrote: Philips use a hair lifting mechanism for a closer shave. Its a big cause of skin problems. Braun syncro seems about the best out there, thotough cuting but not hard on skin, and dont use any lifting system - but they're not a cheap option. I've a deep-rooted objection to paying a lot for something that is basically the same across the range. A shaver or hair trimmer should just work and not cause any problems. Added to this is my attitude that such routines are a waste of time and effort (apart from just feeling/looking better) because within a v. short time it's back to square one. I've found with electric razors it depends on the individual which type works best. Not all hair and skin is the same. -- *I wish the buck stopped here. I could use a few. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 22/07/2011 11:13, NT wrote:
On Jul 22, 8:28 am, wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:50:00 +0100, pcb1962 wrote: On 21/07/11 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? I took it for a year. I found that their criteria for judging stuff didn't coincide with mine - a lot of concern about how easy the knobs were for old people and stuff like that. Nowadays I only buy Miele appliances, and I find Amazon reviews far more useful than Which for judging what's good and what's junk. Amazon and Argos - Reviews - sort Low to High - ignore idiots (1 star for a shaver because it had to be plugged in to use it and he 'thought' that it was rechargeable!) - pick out the factual faults. I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( Philips use a hair lifting mechanism for a closer shave. Its a big cause of skin problems. Braun syncro seems about the best out there, thotough cuting but not hard on skin, and dont use any lifting system - but they're not a cheap option. NT My skin reacts to so much that I have to dry shave. Never had any problems with my Philishave though. Interested about the hair lifting. Perhaps that is why with the latest one I can get away with being too lazy to shave occasionally without it taking forever to finally shave and suffering from loads of ingrowing hairs. Horses for courses etc. |
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PeterC :
I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( I recommend a beard. -- Mike Barnes |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:47:45 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:
PeterC : I was looking at a Remington shaver. Several instances of the foil wearing through in under a year and Remington's attitude being 'so what' put me off - still don't knw what to get :-( I recommend a beard. Tried that - a bit irregular with noticeable gaps. Nice in the Winter on a motorbike though. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On Jul 21, 9:18*pm, Hugh Jampton wrote:
Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. If the article in another thread is typical of their output I wuoldnt bother. You'd get better info here for free. The one time I bought an appliance after reading Which was a sharp carousel microwave. Which were beside themslves with how bad it was, but for reasons I wont bore you with I got one. It consistently behaved itself well, it was very reliable and lasted a very long time. By the time I gave it away it was still going strong after a very long service life. NT |
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, NT wrote: The one time I bought an appliance after reading Which was a sharp carousel microwave. Which were beside themslves with how bad it was, but for reasons I wont bore you with I got one. It consistently behaved itself well, it was very reliable and lasted a very long time. By the time I gave it away it was still going strong after a very long service life. One swallow doesn't a summer make. And how did you compare its performance to others? I'd expect anything like this to work. But that doesn't mean it was the 'best buy'. -- *The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Jul 22, 12:56*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , * *NT wrote: The one time I bought an appliance after reading Which was a sharp carousel microwave. Which were beside themslves with how bad it was, but for reasons I wont bore you with I got one. It consistently behaved itself well, it was very reliable and lasted a very long time. By the time I gave it away it was still going strong after a very long service life. One swallow doesn't a summer make. The sample of one showed their claims about terrible cooking performance were simply unfounded. And how did you compare its performance to others? I've used numerous microwaves. Which really slated the carousel for its cooking performance, but IME they were simply wrong. There have been models with the problem which claimed, but not any of the carousels. NT I'd expect anything like this to work. But that doesn't mean it was the 'best buy'. |
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Hugh Jampton writes: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? My parents have subscribed pretty much since it started. I would say 30+ years ago, it was good. I also enjoyed reading the pair of legal cases on the back cover (which I don't recall seeing more recently). However, nowadays, on the rare occations I pick it up and have a read relating to some topic I actually know about, I find it very poor - often missing out the issues that really matter. I can't tell if this is because over the years I have become more expert on various issues or if the quality of it has dropped - probably a bit of both. However, I wouldn't pay for it, and I rarely find it worth reading even though I have free access to my parents' copies. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 22/07/2011 15:06, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
snip My parents have subscribed pretty much since it started. I would say 30+ years ago, it was good. snip My parents took Which when it first came out. I could be wrong (it is after all a long time ago) but I would have put the start of Which some time in the late 50s with Motoring Which not later than the early 60s. I was put off Motoring Which by its first choice of best Buy - VW Beetle. If I remember the timeline correctly that would have been the 1200 model with a reputation for poor handling and poisoning its occupants with exhaust gases from the heater if it couldn't kill its occupants in a more conventional manner. A car widely advertised at the time as being reliable enough to be driven flat out (70mph) all day which is not exactly surprising given the puny 34 bhp available. -- Roger Chapman |
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On 22/07/2011 15:06, Andrew Gabriel wrote: snip My parents have subscribed pretty much since it started. I would say 30+ years ago, it was good. snip My parents took Which when it first came out. I could be wrong (it is after all a long time ago) but I would have put the start of Which some time in the late 50s with Motoring Which not later than the early 60s. I was put off Motoring Which by its first choice of best Buy - VW Beetle. If I remember the timeline correctly that would have been the 1200 model with a reputation for poor handling and poisoning its occupants with exhaust gases I do not believe that a German manufacturer could think of such a thing -- Adam |
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Roger Chapman wrote: I was put off Motoring Which by its first choice of best Buy - VW Beetle. If I remember the timeline correctly that would have been the 1200 model with a reputation for poor handling and poisoning its occupants with exhaust gases from the heater if it couldn't kill its occupants in a more conventional manner. A car widely advertised at the time as being reliable enough to be driven flat out (70mph) all day which is not exactly surprising given the puny 34 bhp available. William Boddy - the editor of Motor Sport for many years and a very respected and knowledgeable motoring journalist - also very much liked the Beetle in the '50s, and owned one. Most small UK designed cars of that time would not survive being driven flat out for long - it was before motorways. 34 bhp was about average for a small car in those days. For such a dreadful car as you seem to think it remained in production for a very long time and of course has a modern lookalike. Where is the UK equivalent? The Mini came some 10 years after the Beetle. -- *Never slap a man who's chewing tobacco * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 23/07/2011 17:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , Roger wrote: I was put off Motoring Which by its first choice of best Buy - VW Beetle. If I remember the timeline correctly that would have been the 1200 model with a reputation for poor handling and poisoning its occupants with exhaust gases from the heater if it couldn't kill its occupants in a more conventional manner. A car widely advertised at the time as being reliable enough to be driven flat out (70mph) all day which is not exactly surprising given the puny 34 bhp available. William Boddy - the editor of Motor Sport for many years and a very respected and knowledgeable motoring journalist - also very much liked the Beetle in the '50s, and owned one. Most small UK designed cars of that time would not survive being driven flat out for long - it was before motorways. 34 bhp was about average for a small car in those days. For such a dreadful car as you seem to think it remained in production for a very long time and of course has a modern lookalike. Where is the UK equivalent? The Mini came some 10 years after the Beetle. There is no accounting for taste and I have no recollection of Bill Boddy and Motorsport even though I read the magazine for many years. However every dog has its day and the Beetle might well have been a reasonable choice when the only practical alternative to a bubble car at the bottom end of the market for new cars was a Morris 8 (E), A30 or sit up and beg Ford but if my memory serves me correctly the Beetle was the Which best Buy in the early 60s by which time the Mini and the 105E Anglia (both introduced in 1959) were well established in the market and even in the 50s a Morris Minor would have been a better choice for the discerning motorist. The Beetles antecedents are rooted in the late 30s even if the British public didn't get the chance to own one until 1946 and the power output of the early examples was even worse - somewhere in the low 20s IIRC. -- Roger Chapman |
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Roger Chapman wrote: There is no accounting for taste and I have no recollection of Bill Boddy and Motorsport even though I read the magazine for many years. I can't believe you read Motor Sport and don't know of William Boddy. I haven't read it for ages, but believe he was still a contributor right up to his death at age 98 a couple of weeks ago. http://www.google.co.uk/news?q=Bill+Boddy&hl=en -- *Save a tree, eat a beaver* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 21/07/2011 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote:
Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. Agreeing with most of the opinions expressed elsewhere on this thread. I use it to gte an idea of what's available on the market, what to look for, then go and do my own research and decisions. I'm getting a little bit peeved with the way they churn articles. You don't need articles on washing machines twice a year... OTOH, which-local.co.uk _is_ useful: I have had good experiences with using the information (and in fact only yesterday was paying a telephone engineer that I found via Which Local to do some rewiring who could not have been more helpful). Allan |
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On 22/07/2011 15:54, Allan wrote:
On 21/07/2011 21:18, Hugh Jampton wrote: Which is mentioned in another thread. I'm contemplating subscribing to Which and wondered if anyone is/was subscribed and what do they think of Which ? Good - Bad ? Worth the fee ? TIA. Agreeing with most of the opinions expressed elsewhere on this thread. I use it to gte an idea of what's available on the market, what to look for, then go and do my own research and decisions. I'm getting a little bit peeved with the way they churn articles. You don't need articles on washing machines twice a year... OTOH, which-local.co.uk _is_ useful: I have had good experiences with using the information (and in fact only yesterday was paying a telephone engineer that I found via Which Local to do some rewiring who could not have been more helpful). Allan Problem with Which Local is that there is no facility to do anything but recommend someone. Which will not allow negative reviews. So someone can get their mate to highly recommend them and nobody can say they were completely useless. This has been aired in Which forums but they are scared of being sued and don't see a problem. I think Which have now completely lost the plot. Glossy magazine with heaps of pictures and wasted paper. Very short on real detail. If your priorities are different from theirs it is very difficult to usefully use the reviews. |
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On 22/07/2011 17:21, Invisible Man wrote:
Problem with Which Local is that there is no facility to do anything but recommend someone. Which will not allow negative reviews. So someone can get their mate to highly recommend them and nobody can say they were completely useless. This has been aired in Which forums but they are scared of being sued and don't see a problem. [snipping] Just give a lowish rating: it's easy enough to see... |
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Thanks for all the replies folks - much appreciated.
Well it looks like Which is perhaps not quite as good as I thought :-( Will go on thinking about it and *perhaps* go for the 1 month trial for £1 and see what I think. Thanks again. -- Regards, Hugh Jampton |
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On 22/07/2011 20:17, Hugh Jampton wrote:
Thanks for all the replies folks - much appreciated. Well it looks like Which is perhaps not quite as good as I thought :-( Will go on thinking about it and *perhaps* go for the 1 month trial for £1 and see what I think. Thanks again. I look the occasional things up I need in the local library. Cheating, I know, but... Andy Happy Philishave user. (Wife doesn't like beards!) |
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Hugh Jampton wrote: Thanks for all the replies folks - much appreciated. Well it looks like Which is perhaps not quite as good as I thought :-( Will go on thinking about it and *perhaps* go for the 1 month trial for £1 and see what I think. Thanks again. That would be the best way and make up your own mind. For some reason Which produces irrational reactions from some. Far more so than other mags which review stuff. Of course it's not perfect, but I've yet to buy anything they've recommended and been disappointed with it. I no longer subscribe due to the cost. And not needing to buy new consumer goods that often these days. -- *Tell me to 'stuff it' - I'm a taxidermist. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote For some reason Which produces irrational reactions from some. The overall view in this thread seems to suggest that Which? lost its way many years ago. They used to have major problems identifying "identical" goods from the same factory but with different badges/branding. These days I suspect that that may have even more of a problem where some items may have a dozen or more badges depending on which outlet is selling the equipment. At one time the reviews by Which? may have been one of the few sources of independent information but these days you can probably find a better spread of real customer reviews from well known web sites. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |