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Fixing garden canes together
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has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete |
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On Jun 14, 1:31*pm, goodolpete wrote:
Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete String with an upright cane at each join. I actually stick a few old tree supports in and drape the netting over that. Jonathan |
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goodolpete wrote:
Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete look up 'square lashing' a boy scouts (and others) method of fixing spars at right angles. Bob |
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On Jun 14, 1:31 pm, goodolpete wrote:
Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete cable ties at each junction - 2 diagonally opposed around both canes? Jim K |
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"goodolpete" wrote in message ... Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete Arc or stick welder ? |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:31:32 -0700 (PDT), goodolpete
wrote: Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. If the canes are reasonably thick then you could use 15mm John guest push fit pipe fittings. The Tees and Elbows are quite useful. Quite an expensive way of doing it though unless you have access to a load like I did. G.Harman |
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goodolpete wrote:
Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete tie wraps. |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:10:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. tie wraps. Even if pulled up really tight they tend to still slide. Personally I'd go for the wizzy, but simple, garden twine after a google for lashing techniques. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:10:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. tie wraps. Even if pulled up really tight they tend to still slide. Personally I'd go for the wizzy, but simple, garden twine after a google for lashing techniques. You need to cross them over and use a pair. Not a patch on a proper boy scout lashing, but who apart from us oldsters ever did one? I just built a fruit cage. Need to put tow strips of net over the top so stretched a central wire and tie wrapped the netting to it. Perfect, fast and neat. Way better than string (which rots) or thin wire. |
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In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:10:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. tie wraps. Even if pulled up really tight they tend to still slide. Personally I'd go for the wizzy, but simple, garden twine after a google for lashing techniques. Tie-wraps (two, crossed, per join) for speed and convenience. However, when you cut the tie-wraps dismantle the canes, they usually end up lying around all over the place on the ground, and you have to hunt for them. Lost bits of twine are at least (eventually) bio-degradable! -- Ian |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:10:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. tie wraps. Even if pulled up really tight they tend to still slide. Personally I'd go for the wizzy, but simple, garden twine after a google for lashing techniques. You need to cross them over and use a pair. Not a patch on a proper boy scout lashing, but who apart from us oldsters ever did one? I just built a fruit cage. Need to put tow strips of net over the top so stretched a central wire and tie wrapped the netting to it. Perfect, fast and neat. Way better than string (which rots) or thin wire. I use my scouting knots quite a lot especially in the garden Sheepshank Clove hitch Reef Knot Sheet Bend Timber hitch Round turn & 2 half hitches Square & Diagonal lashing I rarely find the need for a Bowline, maybe because I found it difficult to remember at the time. I was a scout in the mid sixties (post silly hat and pre uniform long trousers). Bob |
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goodolpete wrote in news:5a014a7b-9b46-4f8a-9331-
: Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete Ordinary garden twine or string. -- All the best, Chris |
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On 15/06/2011 14:10, Chris Wilson wrote:
wrote in news:5a014a7b-9b46-4f8a-9331- : Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete Ordinary garden twine or string. Bamboo canes tend to slide about. Rubber bands, cut and used like string, work quite well |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:43:59 +0100, stuart noble wrote:
Bamboo canes tend to slide about. Rubber bands, cut and used like string, work quite well One might have to choose ones rubber bands carefully. Many don't like UV... Old ladies tights do seem to resist UV well and have some stretchyness. We've used them to as ties between small trees and the stake. Nice bit of resiliance, strong and broad so don't damage the tree. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 15/06/2011 16:27, Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-15, stuart wrote: On 15/06/2011 14:10, Chris Wilson wrote: wrote in news:5a014a7b-9b46-4f8a-9331- : Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete Ordinary garden twine or string. Bamboo canes tend to slide about. Rubber bands, cut and used like string, work quite well They only last a week or two in the sun. The mixed bag I bought in the Pound Shop have done 3 months so far and, if the odd one fails, at least the structure will already be in position for lashing with string. I have used the twisty stuff but IME it needs to be tightened with pliers to grip bamboo |
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In message
, goodolpete writes Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Do you need to bother with a framework? We just stick some canes in, and drape the mesh over the top. It's weighed down at the base. so doesn't sag down slowly. We use Enviromesh as to keep the Cabbage White Butterflies off, and this just rests over the top of the canes. If you are using a wider mesh to just keep Pigeons off then you might need to put something over the top of the canes so they don't got through the holes. Small plant pots, yogurt tubes, drinks bottles etc. -- Chris French |
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In article , Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-15, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:43:59 +0100, stuart noble wrote: Bamboo canes tend to slide about. Rubber bands, cut and used like string, work quite well One might have to choose ones rubber bands carefully. Many don't like UV... Old ladies tights do seem to resist UV well and have some stretchyness. We've used them to as ties between small trees and the stake. Nice bit of resiliance, strong and broad so don't damage the tree. I've used 1/4" magtape for this. Works quite well, although Gawd knows where you'd get any these days. Bet it was a bugger to read back afterwards, though ... Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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stuart noble wrote in
: On 15/06/2011 14:10, Chris Wilson wrote: wrote in news:5a014a7b-9b46-4f8a-9331- : Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete Ordinary garden twine or string. Bamboo canes tend to slide about. Rubber bands, cut and used like string, work quite well Nope I have to disagree, twine or string made out of a natural material - once wet it'll shrink - you'll never get anything to hold as tightly. -- All the best, Chris |
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"goodolpete" wrote Hi, has anyone any wizzy suggestions for how to fix ordinary garden canes together to make a long rectangular box. I want to fix netting over it to try and keep the pigeons off my third planting of Calabrese. Best wishes, Pete I've used cheap parcel tape recently. Lasts all summer, stops the canes from sliding and is easily removed with a few strokes of a Stanley knife. Only occasionally had to restick the odd bit due to rain "getting in". Might be inclined not to bother in future and try Chris French's suggestions. Phil |
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