I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something wrong.
Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the ordinal 19 could
not be located in the dynamic link library MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some reason
*system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

regards
--
Tim Lamb

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message ...
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something wrong.
Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the ordinal 19 could
not be located in the dynamic link library MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some reason
*system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

regards
--
Tim Lamb

Have a look at this thread, especially the last post:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/76171...ullThread=true

On 10 Jun 2011 09:35:01 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something
wrong. Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the
ordinal 19 could not be located in the dynamic link library
MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some
reason *system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall




The fourth R:

"Replace with Linux".
--
Davey.

On 10 Jun 2011 10:40:13 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 09:35:01 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something
wrong. Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the
ordinal 19 could not be located in the dynamic link library
MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some
reason *system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall




The fourth R:

"Replace with Linux".

Well, yes. Or in my case "don't Run windows in the first place". Never
have. Never will.



I have a Pinnacle VHS converter, to save tapes to DVD, and it won't run
with Linux. Some people can make them work, others can't, and it won't
work with my PC anyway, as it doesn't have the required spec. Pinnacle
have zero interest in supporting Linux. So I am in the market for a new
PC, and I think I will use the normal OEM Windows install for this
purpose. Every now and then, I come across a program that,
despite all the Linux proponents' claims, doesn't "Just work", and it
would be good to have a way of checking and using these things.
If you want an example, my HP printer cannot be made to do a Clean from
Linux (or at least Ubuntu), whereas with XP it just comes right up as
an easy option. Even the Ubuntu/Cups Help pages agree that it is not
available. I tried once to run XP in a Virtualbox, but it wouldn't
recognise the USB ports.
--
Davey.

Huge wrote:
[snip]
Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall

cough

It's four "R's" - the final one is Repeat.

On 10 Jun 2011 10:52:55 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:

I tried once to run XP in a Virtualbox, but it wouldn't
recognise the USB ports.

That's because you were running the Open Source version. If you
download the commercial version (still free) from Sun/Oracle, it
supports USB.

(I keep an XP VM around for the one thing that won't run under Linux.)



Ah-ha! But that PC is not available now, and I don't have a set of XP
discs around, so I'm not about to try again.But thanks for the info.
If your 'one thing' isn't Pinnacle, then there are now three identified
non-Linux operations (at least).
--
Davey.

On Jun 10, 11:49*am, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 10:40:13 GMT









Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 09:35:01 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something
wrong. Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the
ordinal 19 could not be located in the dynamic link library
MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some
reason *system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall

The fourth R:

"Replace with Linux".

Well, yes. Or in my case "don't Run windows in the first place". Never
have. Never will.

I have a Pinnacle VHS converter, to save tapes to DVD, and it won't run
with Linux.

Just wondering why use such a device.....
I brought a DVD recorder and connected it to my VHS recorder.
Doing this meant I could just leave the thing going for 3 hours
and still use my computer for playing games and my TV for watching
eastenders



Some people can make them work, others can't, and it won't
work with my PC anyway, as it doesn't have the required spec.
Encoding such things is quite time consuming unless you have a pretty
fast PC.

Pinnacle
have zero interest in supporting Linux. So I am in the market for a new
PC, and I think I will use the normal OEM Windows install for this
purpose. Every now and then, I come across a program that,
despite all the Linux proponents' claims, doesn't "Just work", and it
would be good to have a way of checking and using these things.
If you want an example, my HP printer cannot be made to do a Clean from
Linux (or at least Ubuntu), whereas with XP it just comes right up as
an easy option. Even the Ubuntu/Cups Help pages agree that it is not
available. I tried once to run XP in a Virtualbox, but it wouldn't
recognise the USB ports.

I have a few Macs so don't really come up against such problems .

--
Davey.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT)
whisky-dave wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:49Â*am, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 10:40:13 GMT









Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 09:35:01 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got
something wrong. Trying to open the program from the desktop
I get *the ordinal 19 could not be located in the dynamic
link library MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some
reason *system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall

The fourth R:

"Replace with Linux".

Well, yes. Or in my case "don't Run windows in the first place".
Never have. Never will.

I have a Pinnacle VHS converter, to save tapes to DVD, and it won't
run with Linux.

Just wondering why use such a device.....
I brought a DVD recorder and connected it to my VHS recorder.
Doing this meant I could just leave the thing going for 3 hours
and still use my computer for playing games and my TV for watching
eastenders


snip

That is a point. But I was trying to not buy more stuff than I need to,
as I know that I will soon need a new PC. If I bought something new, it
would likely be a PVR, which is not the same thing.
But there's still the point about drivers which just don't work in
Linux.

--
Davey.

Davey wrote:
That is a point. But I was trying to not buy more stuff than I need to,
as I know that I will soon need a new PC. If I bought something new, it
would likely be a PVR, which is not the same thing.
But there's still the point about drivers which just don't work in
Linux.

Similarly I regularly find things nowadays that 'just work' in Linux
and yet cause endless misery in Windows. This is particularly true of
*some* HP printers. I have an HP7310 all-in-one and it's just a total
disaster in Windows but the (HP supplied) Linux drivers are very solid.

It's no longer true that there are always more/better drivers for Windows.

--
Chris Green

On Jun 10, 1:29*pm, whisky-dave wrote:
On Jun 10, 11:49*am, Davey wrote:









On 10 Jun 2011 10:40:13 GMT

Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 09:35:01 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something
wrong. Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the
ordinal 19 could not be located in the dynamic link library
MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some
reason *system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall

The fourth R:

"Replace with Linux".

Well, yes. Or in my case "don't Run windows in the first place". Never
have. Never will.

I have a Pinnacle VHS converter, to save tapes to DVD, and it won't run
with Linux.

Just wondering why use such a device.....
I brought a DVD recorder and connected it to my VHS recorder.

Our DVD recorder will not record from tapes with Macrovision. Maybe
the Pinnacle thingy does.

MBQ

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something wrong.
Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the ordinal 19 could
not be located in the dynamic link library MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some reason
*system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Was it a fresh install or an update? I've updated both my XP PCs to
Acrobat 10 without problems.

--
*Why is "abbreviated" such a long word?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Jun 10, 2:58*pm, "Man at B&Q" wrote:
On Jun 10, 1:29*pm, whisky-dave wrote:



On Jun 10, 11:49*am, Davey wrote:

On 10 Jun 2011 10:40:13 GMT

Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:
On 10 Jun 2011 09:35:01 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something
wrong. Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the
ordinal 19 could not be located in the dynamic link library
MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some
reason *system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Remember the Microsoft Three 'R's;

Restart
Reboot
Reinstall

The fourth R:

"Replace with Linux".

Well, yes. Or in my case "don't Run windows in the first place". Never
have. Never will.

I have a Pinnacle VHS converter, to save tapes to DVD, and it won't run
with Linux.

Just wondering why use such a device.....
I brought a DVD recorder and connected it to my VHS recorder.

Our DVD recorder will not record from tapes with Macrovision. Maybe
the Pinnacle thingy does.

MBQ

Seems to depend on the recording SW used with my Pinnacle thingy;
Windows Movie maker is quite happy to ignore Macrovision protection
whereas other SW won't .

On 10 Jun 2011 19:31:41 GMT
Huge wrote:

On 2011-06-10, Davey wrote:

if it worked fine with XP, all I am asking for is the same
equipment to work with Linux.

Why?



Because the Linuxophiles insist that "Linux just works".
--
Davey.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:34:53 +0100
(Steve Firth) wrote:

Davey wrote:

I'm not saying it is, but I am saying that some things don't work in
Linux the way some advocates imply that it does. Saying that
"You need to update your hardware", as some folks have done, doesn't
count; if it worked fine with XP, all I am asking for is the same
equipment to work with Linux.

Then you are being somewhat naive. In the Windows world many items of
hardware are designed broken and they hand of processing tasks that
the harware should do to the CPU in order for the manufacturer to cut
costs. This results in crippled hardware that can only function with
specific drivers. The drivers are proprietary to the manufacturer and
with increasinly draconian copyright legislation idependent parties
are not permitted to reverse engineer the code.

To use your comparison, I had an HP 600 Deskjet All-in-One that
worked perfectly with Windows, but with Ubuntu I could set it to
work as a printer, but all attempts to get it to work as a scanner
failed. It would be recognised as there, but wouldn't work. And
again, there was no "Clean" facility available.

shrug HP don't support Linux, they don't even support some of their
own kit on their own HP UX platform. Educated users will choose
printers that they know will work cross-platform such as PostScript
printers, not dreadful GDI devices.


That's a different point of view from what I have heard many, many
Linux advocates say about HP. They are usually held up as a
manufacturer that supports Linux, and is supposed to be better than
others. I see Canon often criticised in this regard.

I like Ubuntu, but it is not the answer to everything.

If you knew what you were doing, you would select your hardware more
carefully. Since, clearly, you don't know much about what you are
buying, stick to Windows if it does what you want. Just don't expect
those who do have a clue to say "yes, that was an extremely good
choice" because it wasn't.

Ah, but I did not choose my hardware, I already had it when I decided to
go with Linux. It all worked with XP, until the XP died, as MS stuff
does occasionally. Members of the Linux community, who knew exactly
what I was doing, and with what equipment, said that the installation
of Ubuntu would be simple and foolproof, then when I could not get the
internal modem working, they said "Well, laptop Winmodems don't play
with Linux". I know that now, and why, but nobody warned me when they
had the chance. They were all gung-ho for me to convert to Linux, but
failed to admit, or warn, that not everything would be as simple as
they said when trying to 'convert' me. Luckily I don't need the
modem anyway.
Since I am now in the market for a new laptop, and you clearly claim
to 'have a clue', what should I look for? How do I tell if my probable
purchase will be suitable? Only asking, as you are quick to criticise
one who merely wants it to work, not to have to fiddle and faddle to
get the system to operate as it needs to.
--
Davey.

On 10/06/2011 22:54, Davey wrote:

Since I am now in the market for a new laptop, and you clearly claim
to 'have a clue', what should I look for?

At a guess, something apple flavoured would be Steve's recommendation.

I'd say nothing cheap and nasty, unless it's really cheap. Eg I think
I'd avoid Packard-Bell, HP Pavilion, but I like my business HP laptop.
And it's running windows, like all the computers in this house which are
used more than once a year.

Davey wrote:

Since I am now in the market for a new laptop, and you clearly claim
to 'have a clue', what should I look for?

No idea, I know what I would look for, but you seem to want some Windows
crap.

How do I tell if my probable purchase will be suitable? Only asking, as
you are quick to criticise one who merely wants it to work, not to have to
fiddle and faddle to get the system to operate as it needs to.

And yet you like Windows, which is nothing but fiddle and faff.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something wrong.
Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the ordinal 19 could
not be located in the dynamic link library MAP132.dll.*

This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some reason
*system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?

Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?

Was it a fresh install or an update? I've updated both my XP PCs to
Acrobat 10 without problems.

Both. Cured now. I think my mistake was leaving an acrobat file open
while accepting the update. Fairly obvious in that the updates are only
offered when using Acrobat. A warning would help us *less alert* folk:-)

regards


--
Tim Lamb

In message , Dave-UK
writes

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
.. .
I installed Acrobat 10x last night and obviously got something wrong.
Trying to open the program from the desktop I get *the ordinal 19
could not be located in the dynamic link library MAP132.dll.*
This is XP home. Repair attempts have not helped and for some reason
*system restore* will not function! Anti-virus issue?
Before I try a strip out and re-install, any thoughts?
regards
-- Tim Lamb

Have a look at this thread, especially the last post:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/76171...ullThread=true

Worked a treat!

Thanks.

I made the fundamental mistake of accepting the upgrade with an Acrobat
file open!

In the same *upgrade* is a free copy of McAfee which, having done a
search, claimed there was no anti-virus software found on my machine
despite there being a full paid up copy of Norton!

regards





--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:


In the same *upgrade* is a free copy of McAfee which, having done a
search, claimed there was no anti-virus software found on my machine
despite there being a full paid up copy of Norton!

I'd say that's not so far off the mark, I reckon Norton *is* a virus.

Installed mostly without consent, hogs resources.....

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:40:59 +0100
(Steve Firth) wrote:

Davey wrote:

Since I am now in the market for a new laptop, and you clearly claim
to 'have a clue', what should I look for?

No idea, I know what I would look for, but you seem to want some
Windows crap.

How do I tell if my probable purchase will be suitable? Only
asking, as you are quick to criticise one who merely wants it to
work, not to have to fiddle and faddle to get the system to operate
as it needs to.

And yet you like Windows, which is nothing but fiddle and faff.

So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,
and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC hardware, which
Ubuntu does. If "Linux just worked", then I would have no interest in
Windows at all. I don't have any Windows at the moment (although I do
have windows), but I can't do some tasks.

--
Davey.

Davey wrote:


So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

sigh No I'm not reticent but you seem to have made your mind up and so
one assumes you are looking for a Windows machine so you can continue to
use the accessories that you purchased which are Windows only. You got
yourself into this bind.

If you are saying that you don't want to re-use the accessories, fine
then there's plenty of stuff about. Perhaps if you actually said what
you want to do with a computer it would be possible to give some
sensible advice. As it is, you are focussing on the computer and not on
the use you will make of that computer.


No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,
and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC hardware, which
Ubuntu does. If "Linux just worked", then I would have no interest in
Windows at all. I don't have any Windows at the moment (although I do
have windows), but I can't do some tasks.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

All of the above just reads as "I can't imagine any solution other than
Windows" so there's little point discussing alternatives with you, is
there?

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
Was it a fresh install or an update? I've updated both my XP PCs to
Acrobat 10 without problems.

Both. Cured now. I think my mistake was leaving an acrobat file open
while accepting the update. Fairly obvious in that the updates are only
offered when using Acrobat.

Not so - I visited a site which needed Acrobat viewer and it offered me an
upgrade before the normal upgrader did. And that was the complete thing,
by the file size, which was vast.

--
*Succeed, in spite of management *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Davey wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:40:59 +0100
(Steve Firth) wrote:

Davey wrote:

Since I am now in the market for a new laptop, and you clearly claim
to 'have a clue', what should I look for?
No idea, I know what I would look for, but you seem to want some
Windows crap.

How do I tell if my probable purchase will be suitable? Only
asking, as you are quick to criticise one who merely wants it to
work, not to have to fiddle and faddle to get the system to operate
as it needs to.
And yet you like Windows, which is nothing but fiddle and faff.

So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,
and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC hardware, which
Ubuntu does. If "Linux just worked", then I would have no interest in
Windows at all. I don't have any Windows at the moment (although I do
have windows), but I can't do some tasks.

Debian linux mostly just 'works' on hardware over 3 years old.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
Was it a fresh install or an update? I've updated both my XP PCs to
Acrobat 10 without problems.

Both. Cured now. I think my mistake was leaving an acrobat file open
while accepting the update. Fairly obvious in that the updates are only
offered when using Acrobat.

Not so - I visited a site which needed Acrobat viewer and it offered me an
upgrade before the normal upgrader did. And that was the complete thing,
by the file size, which was vast.

OK. In this instance I had already got the file open before the offer
arrived.

In general, patches or upgrades are never set to *auto download* as my
desk top is not left running and they otherwise hog the machine at
switch on.

regards


--
Tim Lamb

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:16:52 +0100
(Steve Firth) wrote:

Davey wrote:


So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

sigh No I'm not reticent but you seem to have made your mind up and
so one assumes you are looking for a Windows machine so you can
continue to use the accessories that you purchased which are Windows
only. You got yourself into this bind.

I bought them when I had Windows, and wish to use them with Linux. But
I can't.

If you are saying that you don't want to re-use the accessories, fine
then there's plenty of stuff about. Perhaps if you actually said what
you want to do with a computer it would be possible to give some
sensible advice. As it is, you are focussing on the computer and not
on the use you will make of that computer.

No more than basic home use, including medium ability photo
manipulation, and transfer of VHS tapes to DVD. If that could be
achieved without the Pinnacle, but by the PC itself, then fine, I am not
determined to use it, it's just that I have it already, and it works
with Windows.


No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu
can't, and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC
hardware, which Ubuntu does. If "Linux just worked", then I would
have no interest in Windows at all. I don't have any Windows at the
moment (although I do have windows), but I can't do some tasks.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

All of the above just reads as "I can't imagine any solution other
than Windows" so there's little point discussing alternatives with
you, is there?

You are clearly not listening to me, so I agree that we should
terminate this conversation, we are at odds of understanding.
But thanks for the attention.
--
Davey.

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
In general, patches or upgrades are never set to *auto download* as my
desk top is not left running and they otherwise hog the machine at
switch on.

My version of XP allows you to download then or delay it until you want.

--
*Ever stop to think and forget to start again?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 11/06/2011 18:30, Huge wrote:
On 2011-06-11, wrote:

No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,

Other than circular definitions this is, of course, untrue.



Interesting assertion. Are you saying that there is absolutely nothing
that can be done with Windows that cannot be done with Linux?

(hint: my company is one of many that concentrates on software for the
Windows market, because it is bigger)

Andy

Andy Champ wrote:

(hint: my company is one of many that concentrates on software for the
Windows market, because it is bigger)

This argument is of course ******** as well. If it were the only
consideration then there would be no point in writing for other
platforms. It's a sign to me that the company has mentally lazy
management. It is of course also a variation on the "eat ****, millions
of flies can't be wrong" argument.

Windows keeps me nicely in work. If I were designing for other platforms
I'd have my job over much faster and I'd get less work because there
would be little work to do[1], so I'm grateful to Bill for designing
some really ****e software and selling it to large corporates.

Of course I don't actually use it myself, because I'm not as mad as a
hatter and his hatstand.

[1] Not for the reasons you allude to, but for reasons that should scare
the crap out of Windows users.

In message , Steve Firth
writes
Davey wrote:


So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

sigh No I'm not reticent but you seem to have made your mind up and so
one assumes you are looking for a Windows machine so you can continue to
use the accessories that you purchased which are Windows only. You got
yourself into this bind.

If you are saying that you don't want to re-use the accessories, fine
then there's plenty of stuff about. Perhaps if you actually said what
you want to do with a computer it would be possible to give some
sensible advice. As it is, you are focussing on the computer and not on
the use you will make of that computer.


No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,
and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC hardware, which
Ubuntu does. If "Linux just worked", then I would have no interest in
Windows at all. I don't have any Windows at the moment (although I do
have windows), but I can't do some tasks.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

All of the above just reads as "I can't imagine any solution other than
Windows" so there's little point discussing alternatives with you, is
there?

Well, as an obvious Linux evangelist, can you tell me of a Linux
application that will take a TS video stream and convert it to MPEG and
a usable video editor that doesn't look and work like a toy from Toys
"R" Us?
--
James Noble

"James Noble" wrote in message
...


Well, as an obvious Linux evangelist, can you tell me of a Linux
application that will take a TS video stream

Would that be multiplexed?

and convert it to MPEG and a usable video editor that doesn't look and
work like a toy from Toys "R" Us?

Do you need audio sync too? ;-)

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"James Noble" wrote in message
...


Well, as an obvious Linux evangelist, can you tell me of a Linux
application that will take a TS video stream

Would that be multiplexed?

Yes

and convert it to MPEG and a usable video editor that doesn't look
and work like a toy from Toys "R" Us?

Do you need audio sync too? ;-)


Yes
--
James Noble

James Noble wrote:
In message , Steve Firth
writes
Davey wrote:


So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

sigh No I'm not reticent but you seem to have made your mind up and so
one assumes you are looking for a Windows machine so you can continue to
use the accessories that you purchased which are Windows only. You got
yourself into this bind.

If you are saying that you don't want to re-use the accessories, fine
then there's plenty of stuff about. Perhaps if you actually said what
you want to do with a computer it would be possible to give some
sensible advice. As it is, you are focussing on the computer and not on
the use you will make of that computer.


No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,
and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC hardware, which
Ubuntu does. If "Linux just worked", then I would have no interest in
Windows at all. I don't have any Windows at the moment (although I do
have windows), but I can't do some tasks.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

All of the above just reads as "I can't imagine any solution other than
Windows" so there's little point discussing alternatives with you, is
there?

Well, as an obvious Linux evangelist, can you tell me of a Linux
application that will take a TS video stream and convert it to MPEG

FFMPEG

and a usable video editor that doesn't look and work like a toy from Toys "R" Us?

You don't have any like that on Windows.

Try FinalCut Pro

James Noble wrote:

can you tell me of a Linux
application that will take a TS video stream and convert it to MPEG and
a usable video editor that doesn't look and work like a toy from Toys
"R" Us?

I thought TS was an envelope for mpeg??

Anyway ffmpeg will do this and is used professionally but the firms that do
it have their own script wallahs to call the commandline. I was with a lad
on Saturday who has this job to massage advert videos post shooting.

AJH

James Noble wrote:

and convert it to MPEG and a usable video editor that doesn't look
and work like a toy from Toys "R" Us?

Do you need audio sync too? ;-)


Yes

When you say "editor" what do you want from the editor, simple edits or
the full professional bells and whistles? For the former MPEG Streamclip
does a very good job of editing TS files. If you mean the latter then
Windows really doesn't offer much of any value anyway, so I'd say use
Avid or Final Cut Pro on a Mac as most professionals do.

Good packages on Linux are Cinelerra, Kdenlive, Kino and LiVES.

James Noble wrote:

Well, as an obvious Linux evangelist,

Sorry, I forgot to pick you up on this one. I'm far from a "Linux
evangelist", I suggest you learn to read the headers to a Usenet post.

On Jun 11, 11:55*am, Davey wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:40:59 +0100

(Steve Firth) wrote:
Davey wrote:

Since I am now in the market for a new laptop, and you clearly claim
to 'have a clue', what should I look for?

No idea, I know what I would look for, but you seem to want some
Windows crap.

How do I tell if my probable purchase will be suitable? Only
asking, as you are quick to criticise one who merely wants it to
work, not to have to fiddle and faddle to get the system to operate
as it needs to.

And yet you like Windows, which is nothing but fiddle and faff.

So, what would you look for? You seem to be very reticent on this.

No, I don't like Windows, but it can do some things that Ubuntu can't,

Windows can run *applications* that aren't available for Linux, that's
the biggest issue in converting.

There's little if anything else that Windows can do that Linux can't.

and doesn't need tweaking to get it to match the PC hardware, which
Ubuntu does.

It's getting (a lot) better. Ubuntu 11.04 "out of the box" on a 5yr
old low end Thinkpad booted and worked, even finding the correct
drivers for the wireless and connecting to the network.

It was a dismal failure last time i tried. It seems things are
actually moving in the right direction at last.

I can almost a damascene conversion coming on.

If "Linux just worked"

It does now, for me at least.

Even the application I require most (Microchip MPLAB IDE) now has a
beta version for Linux.

MBQ